Most disappointing TF purchase?

[SkyWarp91]

What is/was yours?

Paid $30 for ROTF DEluxe Evac. I facepalmed so badly after 5 mins play with it.

[SkyWarp91]

AND OMG I GOT THE TITLE SPELLING WRONG :(:(:(:(

[Hursticon]

AND OMG I GOT THE TITLE SPELLING WRONG :(:(:(:(

Sorry SkyWarp :p, had to lol at that one. :D

For me, my most disappointing purchase was PCC Bombshock & The Combaticons. :mad:
I thought: "I've bought PCC Smoulder, he's pretty cool, so anything with the Combaticon name has got to be better?..." - Let's just say I was very wrong. :rolleyes:

It's nice having limbs for Smoulder, but PCC Bombshock & The Combaticons, IMO, are complete Slag!
When my FansProject Bruticus Upgrade kits arrive, the True Successor to the Combaticon name will show Bombshock and his drones what happens to those who don a moniker ill-befitting of them! :mad::D
(I'll definitely be posting pics of the slaughter... YES!)

[tinyJazz]

What? Come on! Blazemaster and Evac are excellent! :/ I'm serious, I must be the only person on this board who likes this mold. And his cute little face!

ahem.

A lot of the movie styled tfs have been pretty dissapointing, but the worst for me didn't come from this line.

It's Cybertron Scattorshot (scout). I got him in a 3pack and expected him to be bad, just not that bad. First off, I definitely like transformers with knees. Visually, he looks awful all round, doesn't stay together in vehicle mode. Massive, mostly useless backpack and oversized missiles that don't look as though they match the toy at all.

The one redeeming feature on Scattorshot is his Autobot symbol on his hand. If there's one place to tattoo your allegiance, it's your goddamn fist.

[LordCyrusOmega]

Has to be Movie Scorponok. lamest robot mode and conversion ever! Looks good in scorpion mode thought. This is the toy that made me think 'does he really have to transform?'.

In my eyes he's the ambassador for non-transforming transformers

[GoktimusPrime]

Combiner Class Devastator.

Reasons:

+ Rip off! This toy originally retailed for close to $200 and I got it on sale for $97 and still felt massively ripped off. I've heard US fans who bought it for $70 and still complained about it being a rip off. This toy is appallingly poor value for money.

+ With no individual robot modes this toy is by far the suckiest Transformers gestalt ever made

+ I thought sacrificing the robot modes was done in order to make the engineering and design of the toy otherwise better. Boy was I wrong. The sculpting is ridiculously underwhelming - feeling more like PlaySkool toys. The paint apps are also unimpressive (there's some nice airbrushing in some places, but it's not enough to save the overall look of the toys or set). The engineering... again, quite PlaySkool - and Long Haul and Rampage's engineering is positively Happy Meal grade. I like Happy Meal Transformers. Happy Meal Transformers only cost two bucks a pop.

+ The NOM! NOM! gimmick was fun for a while but got old fast. The sound gimmick is just freakin' annoying -- I took the batteries out of mine. It's way more annoying than Energon Scorponok's sound gimmick!


In my eyes he's the ambassador for non-transforming transformers
While Moofie Scorponok's robot mode is incredibly lame - I wouldn't go as far as accusing him of being an Action Master. At least he does transform... and his transformation is more complex than say an Action Master Elite. Heh.


AND OMG I GOT THE TITLE SPELLING WRONG
It sounds funny if you read it in a Borat voice. "Combiner Class Devastator is pains in my @$$hole." ;)

[SkyWarp91]

What? Come on! Blazemaster and Evac are excellent! :/ I'm serious, I must be the only person on this board who likes this mold. And his cute little face!

ahem.

A lot of the movie styled tfs have been pretty dissapointing, but the worst for me didn't come from this line.

It's Cybertron Scattorshot (scout). I got him in a 3pack and expected him to be bad, just not that bad. First off, I definitely like transformers with knees. Visually, he looks awful all round, doesn't stay together in vehicle mode. Massive, mostly useless backpack and oversized missiles that don't look as though they match the toy at all.

The one redeeming feature on Scattorshot is his Autobot symbol on his hand. If there's one place to tattoo your allegiance, it's your goddamn fist.

Though the Blazemaster/Evac mold may look cute, as a TF the trasformation I found to be very dissapointing/frustrating.

[gdmetro]

For me, it has to be ultra class powerglide from the universe line.

I got powerglide from TRU for $35 - very underwhelming. I should have stuck to my instincts to not get it.

After I opened up and transformed the figure- I really tried to like it. But I just felt ripped off.

Made me hate electronic gimmicks- don't care for them.
Transformation and alt mode is ok, but the bot mode just looks crap.
Add to the fact I don't think he fits in with the rest of the classics/universe- he's too big. No wonder these guys shelf warmed so much.

Onslaught is another one, but i got it for $25 so I feel less ripped, and the fact he looks better. Guess I dont like ultra class figs- unless they made appropriately sized characters in that size and nix the gimmicks- which isn't happening, and not enlarge random characters.

So glad I looked at the review for silverbolt- glad I didnt pick that up...

[SharkyMcShark]

I bought that massive Cybertron Starscream at full price.

It wasn't worth it.

[Bartrim]

ROTF Rampage. A big pile of plastic crap

[Tallestblue]

ROTF Ironhide. Just...not good.

[Ode to a Grasshopper]

What? Come on! Blazemaster and Evac are excellent! :/ I'm serious, I must be the only person on this board who likes this mold. And his cute little face!

ahem.

A lot of the movie styled tfs have been pretty dissapointing, but the worst for me didn't come from this line.

It's Cybertron Scattorshot (scout). I got him in a 3pack and expected him to be bad, just not that bad. First off, I definitely like transformers with knees. Visually, he looks awful all round, doesn't stay together in vehicle mode. Massive, mostly useless backpack and oversized missiles that don't look as though they match the toy at all.

The one redeeming feature on Scattorshot is his Autobot symbol on his hand. If there's one place to tattoo your allegiance, it's your goddamn fist.Yeah, the Cybertron Scouts have been pretty disappointing IMO.

For me it's a toss-up between BW Razorbeast and Cybertron Brushguard, both of which I got this year. I got Razorbeast 'cos a wild boar TF seemed too cool to pass up and 'cos I've gotten a few BW toys from Verno this year and they've all been good (Depth Charge, TM Airazor) if not great (Rampage, Inferno, Silverbolt), but as a toy RB's a real let-down. Back-heavy and uninspired in robot mode, almost no poseability or articulation in beast mode - I can see why Furman had second thoughts about making him the star of the Gathering after seeing the toy. Not the worst toy evar, and happily I got him with the awesome Movie Wreckage from llama, but I had high expectations from the BW line so he was quite the let down.
Brushguard, on the other hand, is just bad...I like the idea of a xenobotanist Decepticon weapons developer, and he was a bargain from FFN at $5, but really that's about all I can say that's good about him. Ugly vehicle mode, next to no workable poseability in his kibbletastic robot mode, a missile gimmick that sticks really far out of his back in either mode and robot mode claws that you just can't do anything with...the Cybertron line really was a mixed bag - Vector Prime is one of my best acquisitions for the year, and it's been a really good year for awesome TFs for me - and Brushguard/Overhaul just doesn't cut it.

[SilverDragon]

What? Come on! Blazemaster and Evac are excellent! :/ I'm serious, I must be the only person on this board who likes this mold. And his cute little face!

ahem.

A lot of the movie styled tfs have been pretty dissapointing, but the worst for me didn't come from this line.

It's Cybertron Scattorshot (scout). I got him in a 3pack and expected him to be bad, just not that bad. First off, I definitely like transformers with knees. Visually, he looks awful all round, doesn't stay together in vehicle mode. Massive, mostly useless backpack and oversized missiles that don't look as though they match the toy at all.

The one redeeming feature on Scattorshot is his Autobot symbol on his hand. If there's one place to tattoo your allegiance, it's your goddamn fist.

Is that the Warriors from Three Worlds pack? I'm actually planning to get that, if only for Repugnus to add to the species count for my dinosaur transformers.

My most disappointing one would probably be Movie Brawl. Aside from the arm thing, I'd gotten him on impulse due to having a bad day (not to mention month-2008 was not a good year for me), so that presumably contributed.

I'd nominate Universe Cheetor, but I had no standards to be disappointed.

[griffin]

AND OMG I GOT THE TITLE SPELLING WRONG :(:(:(:(

Fixed :)

[SkyWarp91]

Combiner Class Devastator.

Reasons:

+ Rip off! This toy originally retailed for close to $200 and I got it on sale for $97 and still felt massively ripped off. I've heard US fans who bought it for $70 and still complained about it being a rip off. This toy is appallingly poor value for money.

+ With no individual robot modes this toy is by far the suckiest Transformers gestalt ever made

+ I thought sacrificing the robot modes was done in order to make the engineering and design of the toy otherwise better. Boy was I wrong. The sculpting is ridiculously underwhelming - feeling more like PlaySkool toys. The paint apps are also unimpressive (there's some nice airbrushing in some places, but it's not enough to save the overall look of the toys or set). The engineering... again, quite PlaySkool - and Long Haul and Rampage's engineering is positively Happy Meal grade. I like Happy Meal Transformers. Happy Meal Transformers only cost two bucks a pop.

+ The NOM! NOM! gimmick was fun for a while but got old fast. The sound gimmick is just freakin' annoying -- I took the batteries out of mine. It's way more annoying than Energon Scorponok's sound gimmick!


While Moofie Scorponok's robot mode is incredibly lame - I wouldn't go as far as accusing him of being an Action Master. At least he does transform... and his transformation is more complex than say an Action Master Elite. Heh.


It sounds funny if you read it in a Borat voice. "Combiner Class Devastator is pains in my @$$hole." ;)

Although I still don't have ROTF Supreme Devy yet, and I will get it despite how many times I have heard it is a bad toy - he does talk about one thing that does bug me off with dissapointing TFs - when you've paid full price for them.

[GoktimusPrime]

Yeah, the Cybertron Scouts have been pretty disappointing IMO.
Some Cybertron Scouts are better than others. Armourhide's pretty damn awesome IMO. :)


For me it's a toss-up between BW Razorbeast and Cybertron Brushguard, both of which I got this year. I got Razorbeast 'cos a wild boar TF seemed too cool to pass up and 'cos I've gotten a few BW toys from Verno this year and they've all been good (Depth Charge, TM Airazor) if not great (Rampage, Inferno, Silverbolt), but as a toy RB's a real let-down. Back-heavy and uninspired in robot mode, almost no poseability or articulation in beast mode - I can see why Furman had second thoughts about making him the star of the Gathering after seeing the toy. Not the worst toy evar, and happily I got him with the awesome Movie Wreckage from llama, but I had high expectations from the BW line so he was quite the let down.
I find Razorbeast to be a bit more back heavy than other similar style flipchangers like Rattrap, but not as bad as say Armordillo.


Brushguard, on the other hand, is just bad...I like the idea of a xenobotanist Decepticon weapons developer, and he was a bargain from FFN at $5, but really that's about all I can say that's good about him. Ugly vehicle mode, next to no workable poseability in his kibbletastic robot mode, a missile gimmick that sticks really far out of his back in either mode and robot mode claws that you just can't do anything with...the Cybertron line really was a mixed bag
Well yeah, Brushguard is a repaint of an already crummy mould - so no surprise there. Cybertron did have some interesting personality quirks though... I love how Shortround is a toy collecting geek! :D

[Verno]

TM2 Prowl. I can't even see what Hasbro were trying to do.

[Ode to a Grasshopper]

Shortround is beautiful, I love the character bio and that he can turn into a toilet.:D

Armorhide is a nice solid little guy too, I have him for Odieverse Pipes and he looks pretty good next to PCC Huffer. I was gonna get Scattorshot at some point but if he's really that bad I might settle for the RotF scout.

[i_amtrunks]

Always interesting lists these, I usually find toys I quite like on them!

The rotf toys as a whole were pretty awful, barring the scout class. I think Mudflap and skids were my least favourite, even Ravage was better than those two turds.

And then I saw the movie and hated them even more.

[Hursticon]

TM2 Prowl. I can't even see what Hasbro were trying to do.

I know what you mean Verno, TM2 Prowl I've found to be incredibly frustrating, I didn't think they would make the same mistake as the odd wing placement of G1 Mindwipe and I never got the 'Linda Blair' Alt mode head action either!? :confused::p

[dirge]

BM Mega Cheetor. Can't stand in robot mode, looks bad in both modes, doesn't look like a cheetah anyway, and the weapon is terrible. Even on special I felt like I'd been ripped off.

(I agree with TinyJazz, Blazemaster/Evac is a decent toy)

[Lint]

I'd have to say Robot Masters Prime. I quite like him but he wasn't worth what I paid.

Other than that I'd have to say Henkei Dinobot. Awesome in theory, just didn't live up to expectations.

[MV75]

Sure we've had this thread before, and I probably said the same thing; universe galvatron. So much potential, so much fudged up buggery.

[Verno]

Other than that I'd have to say Henkei Dinobot. Awesome in theory, just didn't live up to expectations.

Really? Oh, I've been eyeing off one for a while now. Wasn't prepared to pay what people are asking for him though. Might reconsider now.

[Hursticon]

Sure we've had this thread before, and I probably said the same thing; universe galvatron. So much potential, so much fudged up buggery.

He was supposed to be a Voyager Class - Triple Changer originally in concept wasn't he?
Did they ever explain why they changed their direction mid development of the figure?

[Autocon]

He was supposed to be a Voyager Class - Triple Changer originally in concept wasn't he?
Did they ever explain why they changed their direction mid development of the figure?

too many tank like vehicles already in voyager. ie we are too cheap:p


LINT: why is henkie dinobot bad? im sure mine isnt like the rest!:p

[Demonac]

Supreme BM Cheetor.

[Grievous]

The only Transformer I've ever been disappointed by was Skyburst...
the "Commander" of the Powercore Combiner Aerialbot team.

Seriously...he's like the only Transformer I own that I don't like...
but in saying that...I did give away Blazemaster and my voyager
Ironhide...but...for all round disappointment...Skyburst wins.
:mad:

[Oldschool78]

Mail order Overdrive, why didnt i choose Downshift? Because i was a kid and kids love Ferraris...... Well they did in the 80s anyway

[Lint]

Really? Oh, I've been eyeing off one for a while now. Wasn't prepared to pay what people are asking for him though. Might reconsider now.



LINT: why is henkie dinobot bad? im sure mine isnt like the rest!:p

When I think Dinobot I think powerful martial warrior. This guy is proportioned like a quasimodo and while he has decent articulation and perfect colours he doesn't quite pull off any nice poses. Generally I can tolerate this on other toys because i'm after their alt mode (cool car/jet/etc) but with Dinobot I was after the robot warrior. Also his sword looks ridiculous :p

Velociraptor mode is great. But it wasn't what I bought this toy for.

[GoktimusPrime]

I'd have to say Robot Masters Prime. I quite like him but he wasn't worth what I paid.
I think for 1480JPY ($19) it's an okay toy... but by no means fantastic. I guess it was Takara's attempt at making a no-frills version of Masterpiece Convoy for kids (remember that MPs in Japan are for Ages 15+).


Mail order Overdrive, why didnt i choose Downshift? Because i was a kid and kids love Ferraris...... Well they did in the 80s anyway
That's interesting, cos as a kid I got Downshift and wished I had Overdrive! Grass is always greener on the other side. :)


When I think Dinobot I think powerful martial warrior. This guy is proportioned like a quasimodo and while he has decent articulation and perfect colours he doesn't quite pull off any nice poses. Generally I can tolerate this on other toys because i'm after their alt mode (cool car/jet/etc) but with Dinobot I was after the robot warrior.
Poseability-wise Classics Dinobot works well enough for me.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/Transformers/Primal%20Scream%20Photocomic/primalscream003.jpghttp://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/Transformers/Primal%20Scream%20Photocomic/primalscream009.jpghttp://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/Transformers/Primal%20Scream%20Photocomic/primalscream015.jpg

Although one of the shoulders and the dino arms pop out too easily in robot mode under excessive force (which happens a lot during playtime :p)


Also his sword looks ridiculous
I think the sword is a neat tribute to Pretender Grimlock's weapon. *shrug*

[kaiden]

Universe Powerglide - lights and sounds were alright but robot mode and trasformation is terrible

WFC Optimus and Bumblebee - transformation isnt fun. back kibble is annoying. optimus is small and unepic.

[Lint]

Poseability-wise Classics Dinobot works well enough for me

I think the sword is a neat tribute to Pretender Grimlock's weapon. *shrug*

It seems like ur talking about classics grimlock. I was talking about this guy

http://www.secondtruth.com/bwtf/2char8.jpg

I don't own the classics grimlock mold so I can't comment.

[kaiden]

It seems like ur talking about classics grimlock. I was talking about this guy

http://www.secondtruth.com/bwtf/2char8.jpg

i love firing his missle in beast mode but the arms hanging out of his chest are really weird. they should have been hidden better, really.

[SilverDragon]

I know what you mean Verno, TM2 Prowl I've found to be incredibly frustrating, I didn't think they would make the same mistake as the odd wing placement of G1 Mindwipe and I never got the 'Linda Blair' Alt mode head action either!? :confused::p

The alt-mode head action is supposed to mimic how real owls can turn their heads 180 degrees.

[Autocon]

The alt-mode head action is supposed to mimic how real owls can turn their heads 180 degrees.

and hypnotise other robots;)

[GoktimusPrime]

It seems like ur talking about classics grimlock. I was talking about this guy

http://www.secondtruth.com/bwtf/2char8.jpg

I don't own the classics grimlock mold so I can't comment.

Please allow me to open my mouth and change feet!http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/avatars/ngsmoov_facepalmconvoy.jpg :p

Yeah, I've handled both the Universe Dinobot and Cheetor moulds and didn't like them. No amount of repainting from Henkei would save them for me.

[LordCyrusOmega]

25th anniversary optimus prime. Was really excited until I noticed the colour. I don't know what shelf he belongs on.

Cybertron primus is another weird one. I like the concept and character but when all is saidand done I paid $200 for a ball. Head slap at that.

[kup]

I think Henkei Dinobot is decent, certainly a more character accurate and nice modern representation. However it does not represent 10+ years of design progression but still passable IMO.

The new Cheetor mold is really crap however and several steps bellow the decade old toy! It is very 'Archeresque' with little real engineering and heavily compromised by a stupid gimmick. It's more in line with the crapfest we saw in BM. The Henkei version however is 10 times better than Universe due to the paint job alone but it is still a crappy mold.

[Hursticon]

The alt-mode head action is supposed to mimic how real owls can turn their heads 180 degrees.

I don't doubt you're right on that one SilverDragon, but 360 degrees?

[Sky Shadow]

I don't doubt you're right on that one SilverDragon, but 360 degrees?

I believe non-robot owls can actually turn their heads 270 degrees* in either direction. But I don't think Prowl-the-owl is that bad a toy, particularly not compared to some of his Transmetal 2 brethren - Jawbreaker, Iguanus and Cybershark are abysmal.

*Edit for clarification: this means real owls can spin their heads 540 degrees from one extreme to the other. Which is awesome.

[SkyWarp91]

Actually, I had a play around with ROTF Evac again today and I take back what I said about him being my most dissapointed TF purchase.

You know what is really my most dissapointing TF purchase?

ROTF SCOUT CLASS SCALPEL
and his F*****G Legs that love to crack at their ball joints that they LOOSELY attached too.

[tinyJazz]

Is that the Warriors from Three Worlds pack? I'm actually planning to get that, if only for Repugnus to add to the species count for my dinosaur transformers.

Yes it is, but don't worry Repugnus is excellent. I can't put him down and I bought him last month! Ransack is fun too, and the colours are really nice.



(I agree with TinyJazz, Blazemaster/Evac is a decent toy)
Yeah! Alright! :)


Actually, I had a play around with ROTF Evac again today and I take back what I said about him being my most dissapointed TF purchase.

You know what is really my most dissapointing TF purchase?

ROTF SCOUT CLASS SCALPEL
and his F*****G Legs that love to crack at their ball joints that they LOOSELY attached too.

I FORGOT ABOUT THAT ONE! I love ROTF scouts, but scalpel's the worst! Pretty disappointing for him to be included in the line. Mine's in microscope mode forever.

[GoktimusPrime]

Pretty disappointing for him to be included in the line.
But then people like me would complain about the Doctor character not having a toy. I'm still miffed about Alice and Reedman not having toys. This is the problem that we come across when Transformers are designed for the screen first and as toys second, and why I prefer Transformers being designed as toys first. But then when Transformers are designed as toys first you have some fans who complain about the toy's lack of screen-likeness. (@_@)

[SuspectimusPrime]

Classics 2.0 Smokescreen.

Terrible, terrible grade of plastic. I'm quite sure there are KOs made of better plastic. Got this MISB but the joints are all loose.

[autobreadticon]

BW BigHorn, the feel, the look,where it carries it missle, just embarrasing

[klystron]

G2 Megatron. So big but with so little playability (i.e. boring toy). Fixed the electronics (lame!) and sold it.

[Sky Shadow]

G2 Megatron. So big but with so little playability (i.e. boring toy). Fixed the electronics (lame!) and sold it.

It transforms, it talks, it fires a missile, reloads and then fires others, it makes gun noises, it makes tank noises - surely it's more playable than 90% of its ilk?

[Autocon]

moofie demolisher. those treads could have easily gone around!


yes scapel have 4 of those lil buggers only one is good but i dare not have another look incase it shits itself lol:mad:

[Autocon]

I believe non-robot owls can actually turn their heads 270 degrees* in either direction. But I don't think Prowl-the-owl is that bad a toy, particularly not compared to some of his Transmetal 2 brethren - Jawbreaker, Iguanus and Cybershark are abysmal.

*Edit for clarification: this means real owls can spin their heads 540 degrees from one extreme to the other. Which is awesome.

i love all those tm2s. they took the owl spinning head nad made it more with the hypnotising feature. the numbers keep creeping up lol

[SkyWarp91]

moofie demolisher. those treads could have easily gone around!


yes scapel have 4 of those lil buggers only one is good but i dare not have another look incase it shits itself lol:mad:

I've noticed that Scalpel is one of the only Scouts toys in the entire ROTF line that has not got a repaint yet.... ..... ....

[Hursticon]

I've noticed that Scalpel is one of the only Scouts toys in the entire ROTF line that has not got a repaint yet.... ..... ....

Judging by the majority feeling of the posts in this thread, I can see why. :p
I've been fortunate enough to not have any of the legs break with mine, whether that is luck or practise? buggered if I know. :D

[SkyWarp91]

Judging by the majority feeling of the posts in this thread, I can see why. :p
I've been fortunate enough to not have any of the legs break with mine, whether that is luck or practise? buggered if I know. :D

Even if there was a Redeco, what could they make of it?

Stealth Ops Scalpel? Post-Operation (Witwicky Blood stained) Scalpel? lol

[Hursticon]

Even if there was a Redeco, what could they make of it?

Stealth Ops Scalpel? Post-Operation (Witwicky Blood stained) Scalpel? lol

How about a G1 Perceptor Repaint? :p
(Hmm, those words could start a fire in certain circles me thinks) :D

[JuzMel]

Mine was probably the Classics Optimus Prime and Megatron 2-Pack:

http://www.entertainmentearth.com/images/%5CAUTOIMAGES%5CHT81401lg.jpg

The figures are flimsy and loose though the DVD was an extra bonus I guess.

[SamLoi888]

The figures are flimsy and loose though the DVD was an extra bonus I guess.

What is on that DVD?

[Autocon]

I've noticed that Scalpel is one of the only Scouts toys in the entire ROTF line that has not got a repaint yet.... ..... ....

even my good one has one cracked leg:mad:

[Tommy K]

animated ratchet, to me it was just a brick with wheels and then when it transformed, it was all brick like, it could have been a rocklord with wheels for all i care lol

[SkyWarp91]

even my good one has one cracked leg:mad:

Looks like Scalpel got off on the WRONG FOOT

**leans head forwards, puts on sunnies**

**Background music plays - Who are you? Who, who, who, who? **

[Haphazard]

Most disappointing TF purchase? I haven't gotten many figures yet, but I must say I was rather disappointed with Deluxe Interrogator Barricade. Very disappointed with his lack of a neck and his inability to stand on his own until I modified his knees. His hands I’m not too sure if I’m disappointed with or not because they’ve inspired me to attempt creating a way for hands to worth with that figure… *shrug* I did rather like his pointy-grabby-hand... things.

And the Headmaster Unit I got with TF:A Leader Bulkhead had paint all over the clear plastic. :\ A two year old can keep colour in the lines better than that... >_>

[Grievous]

Well...I picked up Double Clutch with Rallybots & Mudslinger with Destructicons
and I cannot believe how awful these guys are...

The paint apps are sloppy, the drones don't connect properly and
Double Clutch & Mudslinger aren't even decent stand alone scout figures...

I am so pissed off right now...
:mad:

Its good thing I've saved Terradive & Tomahawk for
tomorrow...I'm sure I won't be disappointed with those guys...
:)

[Doubledealer]

Without doubt, Henkei Prowl. For such an iconic character being Optimus Prime's right hand man 'n' all, what an utterly pathetic toy.

[SkyWarp91]

Without doubt, Henkei Prowl. For such an iconic character being Optimus Prime's right hand man 'n' all, what an utterly pathetic toy.

Did you pay full price for it? Because I did, a whoppin' $50 from my local Jap import store. Was not worth it. Should just have waited around till someone had one on sale on the boards. Ah well, too late now. At least he has spiffy packaging design.

[Tober]

Without doubt, Henkei Prowl. For such an iconic character being Optimus Prime's right hand man 'n' all, what an utterly pathetic toy.


Did you pay full price for it? Because I did, a whoppin' $50 from my local Jap import store. Was not worth it. Should just have waited around till someone had one on sale on the boards. Ah well, too late now. At least he has spiffy packaging design.

What was wrong with Universe/Henkei Prowl (besides the 'sticky paint')?

He's one of my faves. :cool:

[kaiden]

Did you pay full price for it? Because I did, a whoppin' $50 from my local Jap import store. Was not worth it. Should just have waited around till someone had one on sale on the boards. Ah well, too late now. At least he has spiffy packaging design.

from shintokyo? that place is terrible. i think i bought prowl, smokscreen, bluestreak, galvatron and sunstreaker for $22 each last year when they were marked down for clearance.

i do like the prowl mold though, but it is definately not worth $50 and well... you shouldn't shop there without a membership card.

[Doubledealer]

Did you pay full price for it? Because I did, a whoppin' $50 from my local Jap import store. Was not worth it. Should just have waited around till someone had one on sale on the boards. Ah well, too late now. At least he has spiffy packaging design.

I bought mine, along with Henkei Sunstreaker, for a fairly decent price from RK.

In answer to Tober's question, I was simply disappointed with the overall look of both modes. In other words, I think he's bloody ugly. :p

[SkyWarp91]

from shintokyo? that place is terrible. i think i bought prowl, smokscreen, bluestreak, galvatron and sunstreaker for $22 each last year when they were marked down for clearance.

i do like the prowl mold though, but it is definately not worth $50 and well... you shouldn't shop there without a membership card.

That WAS the membership price >_<, and I started collecting end of last year when the universe line had sold most of those toys

[kaiden]

That WAS the membership price >_<, and I started collecting end of last year when the universe line had sold most of those toys

serious? those asshole raised the prices again. I started collecting in july last year. I remember I had trouble finding mirage and found him in shintokyo on a saturday for $35 (members price - $40 non members) and didnt buy him and came back on the monday because i had to have him and the price was $5 higher! i complained to them about it but they denied raising prices. i told them to go fuck themselves and left. so anyway, beginning of this year i came back to their store to buy it because it was too expensive on ebay and it was still the same $45 ($40 members price) they sold it to me $35.90 which was $0.90 more than what i had originally seen it for.

they piss me off so much.

[liegeprime]

these guys, forgot most of their names, but yeah - crappy bots modes with uneven mega limbs or gimmicks that just ruins the toy, or in the case of that plane - a totally dorky looking robot you just wanna bludgeon. I know I love minicons , the guy in the front is one reason why minicons should stay small - figures wise - crappy spindly thing. Alt mode wise they're ok, but bot mode, utterly try hards!:mad:

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb313/liegeprime/Miscellaneous/Crappybotmodes.jpg

[Paulbot]

Nothing stands out as the most, but I've found a lot of the stuff I've got this year disappointing. :(

This would includes Battle Blade Bumblebee, Human Alliance Bumblebee, Deluxe Ironhide, WFC Megatron, Darkmount, Huffer, Smolder, Searchlight, and Legends Rampage.

[SkyWarp91]

Nothing stands out as the most, but I've found a lot of the stuff I've got this year disappointing. :(

This would includes Battle Blade Bumblebee, Human Alliance Bumblebee, Deluxe Ironhide, WFC Megatron, Darkmount, Huffer, Smolder, Searchlight, and Legends Rampage.

I agree with most of these toys, apart from HA Bumblebee which I don't have and Smolder (I believed he was decent looking (both robot mode and fire-vehicle mode) in comparison to Searchlight and Huffer)

[Paulbot]

.... and Smolder (I believed he was decent looking (both robot mode and fire-vehicle mode) in comparison to Searchlight and Huffer)
Yes I liked Smolder the most of the three actually, but not enough to keep so I sold mine.

[Lord_Zed]

I bought Smoulder for $10 at the Parramatta fair and still found him dissapointing, I mean he's not to0 bad but there's realy nothing much about him that appeals to me (I don;t have any other PCC's), compared to the rest of the toys I've picked up this year he's on the dissapointing list, the other toy to make this years list would be my Animated Shockwave (purple) who while an ok design is a floppy mess.

Of course if where going to go back a bit, then the most dissapointing TF in the last couple of years for me was ROTF Deluxe Ravage, nothing Deluxe about this toy, crappy altmode, lame gimmick which limits it's articulation. Three strikes it's out.

[Gutsman Heavy]

Rotf Mindwipe, $25 down the crapper on that one, Sky stalker is boss though.

[kurdt_the_goat]

Mindwipe's probably my favourite of the ROTF voyagers!
What didn't you like about him?

[kup]

It transforms, it talks, it fires a missile, reloads and then fires others, it makes gun noises, it makes tank noises - surely it's more playable than 90% of its ilk?

I was very impressed with G2 Megatron. It's the only electronics dominated TF toy that is actually fun to play with.

Love the reloading missiles, it was freaking awesome with sounds that were actually realistic! It's been freaking almost 20 years since and modern toys still work on the generic 'beep' 'beep'.

[kaiden]

Rotf Mindwipe, $25 down the crapper on that one, Sky stalker is boss though.

ROTF Mindwipe is awesome. You are blind :P

[SkyWarp91]

I thought G2 Megatron is awesome too, even though i don't own the figure but I have played with a headless one at a Toy Fair before and have viewed several Youtube Videos. The ridiculous colours and mean design of the tank reflects Megatron's personality well too - he's a mean crazy-ass Tformer fo' sure.

As for ROTF Mindwipe, I have mixed feelings about this toy too. I payed full price for this toy when it first hit the shelves at K-Mart.

What I do like about this figure is that the robot-mode does portray a deadly-winged assassin character and the slick mid-Earth/Cybertronian stealth jet.

The negatives about this figure is that for a Voyager figure that's worth 2 deluxes the transformation is so simple, though it's something others may not find a negative I consider it so because the easier to transform-the less time spent playing however this could also be good as the easier to transform-the more likely to be played with again. However for his price, I'm leaning towards the former. Also what's with his daggers that protrude on the inferior aspect of his wrist? I know it's kind of like a homage to old horror slasher flicks but imagine if this guy missed swiping at his target and stabbed himself instead? lol


Well, that's enough about Mindwipe for me.

On another dissapointed TF purchase, I'm going to add PCC Sledge, his robot mode is decent but his alt-mode is... ...so ugly, and it's not the type of ugly that's funny like G1 Skullcruncher, it's the ugly like MAN YOU'RE ONE UGLY MOTHERF&&*!#&

[GoktimusPrime]

I wish Mindwipe's daggers could be detached as regular weapons instead of being a permanent attachment. It also means you can't reposition them either. As much of a tribute it is to slasher films, it's not the practical way to hold a knife. Most proper knife fighters will hold the knife blade up, like this (http://www.ghca.org/images/Knife1981.jpg).

But I bet if HasTak repainted this mould as Hellbat and made it exclusive, collectors would be jumping all over it like ants on honey.

[jaydisc]

I agree with Gutsman. Minwipe is poop. Skystalker is awesome

[GoktimusPrime]

Skystalker's nice, but I don't like the spring loaded feet gimmick and the weapons fall off too easily during toyplay for my liking.

[kurdt_the_goat]

Skystalker's feet do clip in place, just requires a little bit more force than you'd expect.

[King Atlas]

Movie voyager megatron with silver paint apps. I bought it at $17 and still felt ripped off. It's just such a poor figure. Especially the crappy feet gimmick.

[5FDP]

Mine would have to be AM Circuit.

When I was in year 11 of high school and still heavily into Transformers, I sold some of my Star Wars figures to another kid at school for some extra cash knowing that we were all going on an excursion to the city.

I bought Circuit and stashed him away in my school bag to sneak him into the house concerned about what my parents would think of their son still buying 'toys'.

I only bought him because a lack of choice that the store had. Being my first AM, I found the toy to be very underwhelming. In my role playing, he was always the first to die :p

[snaketales]

Waaaay back in the '90s...

Machine Wars Optimus Prime.

Robot mode looked nothing like him and I wasn't impressed with the articulation. Couldn't figure out the alt mode for the trailer either.

Vehicle mode was alright.

[GoktimusPrime]

The only thing Machine Wars Prime has over Thunderclash is a better colour scheme. Otherwise the original Thunderclash toy craps all over MW Prime. The worst feature was how they got rid of the rapid fire mega-missile launcher gimmick and replaced it with two spring loaded launchers. Yeah, I understand the legal reasons why it was done, but it still sucks.

[Tallestblue]

It does go to show that A) Children are getting dumber, and B) Parents have become more litigious.

[tinyJazz]

I would also like to nominate Botcon Thunderclash. The toy didn't do the character justice at all! He's supposed to be a commanding figure but it just comes off as flimsy, and looks pretty dumb standing next to Landshark and Flak. Actually, it looks pretty dumb standing next to anything. :( I wanted him to be good so badly.


But then people like me would complain about the Doctor character not having a toy.

Sorry! I meant dissapointed he was in the scout line. They should have done him as a deluxe for no good reason - like wheelie - then I wouldn't need one to fugly up "complete" my scouts. :)


I wish Mindwipe's daggers could be detached as regular weapons instead of being a permanent attachment. It also means you can't reposition them either. As much of a tribute it is to slasher films, it's not the practical way to hold a knife. Most proper knife fighters will hold the knife blade up, like this (http://www.ghca.org/images/Knife1981.jpg).

We don't do that here. That's not how we fight on Cybertron. :mad::D
I do agree with you though, detachable daggers would be nice. Anyway, I like Mindwipe, he has one of my favourite headsculpts.

Oh, and for anyone who thinks Mindwipe is disappointing: just look at what I found~

http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww93/tinyJazz/1284916631122.jpg

Alright, I have no idea how to make this work, but it looks awesome!
I wouldn't mind trying an Axor/Dreadwing combination either.

[Autocon]

I would also like to nominate Botcon Thunderclash. The toy didn't do the character justice at all! He's supposed to be a commanding figure but it just comes off as flimsy, and looks pretty dumb standing next to Landshark and Flak. Actually, it looks pretty dumb standing next to anything. :( I wanted him to be good so badly.



Sorry! I meant dissapointed he was in the scout line. They should have done him as a deluxe for no good reason - like wheelie - then I wouldn't need one to fugly up "complete" my scouts. :)


We don't do that here. That's not how we fight on Cybertron. :mad::D
I do agree with you though, detachable daggers would be nice. Anyway, I like Mindwipe, he has one of my favourite headsculpts.

Oh, and for anyone who thinks Mindwipe is disappointing: just look at what I found~

http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww93/tinyJazz/1284916631122.jpg

Alright, I have no idea how to make this work, but it looks awesome!
I wouldn't mind trying an Axor/Dreadwing combination either.


i think he just replaced the parts: pulled of mws arms head and replaced with lockdowns

[tinyJazz]

i think he just replaced the parts: pulled of mws arms head and replaced with lockdowns

Nope. I'm pretty sure both figures are still complete, you can see a bit of Mindwipe's torso between the legs. :p It's folded back somehow.

[GoktimusPrime]

that looks uncomfortable :p

[liegeprime]

Mine would have to be AM Circuit.


well, if you ever decide to "part" with him just give me the heads up man :D:D

[liegeprime]

Oh, and for anyone who thinks Mindwipe is disappointing: just look at what I found~

http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww93/tinyJazz/1284916631122.jpg

Alright, I have no idea how to make this work, but it looks awesome!
I wouldn't mind trying an Axor/Dreadwing combination either.

It's quite easy if you have the figures. It's not even joined together just have the 2 bots mid transformed then place Lockdown on top of Mindwipe. Ive tried it with my figures when I saw this and it does look good but only for posing ( like a statue) since there is no way you could attach one to the other - unless you try blutack:p. then you can only play with it in bot mode.

[Paulbot]

It looks like ROTF Lockdown finds better upgrades than his Animated counterpart! Mindwipe's bat mode (http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/radicons-customs/302137-rotf-mindwipe-bat-mode.html) is also a plus for that figure.

I remember being disappointed by Action Master Thundercracker many years ago. Not because of the figure, or its colours, but because it was a boxed Transformer but it didn't come with a catalogue! Every Transformer in a box to that year had always had the brochure showing me all of that year's toys :(

[kaiden]

Mindwipe's bat mode (http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/radicons-customs/302137-rotf-mindwipe-bat-mode.html) is also a plus for that figure.


That is so f***ing awesome - it should have been on the box!

[Sharky]

i was going through a few boxes over the weekend, and came to my armada stuff.. i must admit getting alot of these toys back then i was disapointed in more of them then any other series especially sideways.... he was one i regretted even touching.....

how the toys have changed and progressed over the last 8 years

insaying that they did produce a few gems too

[GoktimusPrime]

yeah, the funny thing with Armada is that they kinda took a backward step with engineering. Leading up to that we had Beast Wars, Beast Machines and Car Robot/RiD - with all these awesomely engineered fully articulated transforming robots. Then Armada came along and it was like... WTH... Megatron can't even lift his legs up?!? To me it felt like a lot of engineering was sacrificed for gimmicks.


insaying that they did produce a few gems too
That's true, in some toys they were able to give us well engineered toys that still had neat Mini-Con activated gimmicks too - Tidalwave is an example of this (he's all kinds of awesomesauce :D). Even Sideways is pure jaAM! compared to a lot of other figures in Armada. His robot mode is better articulated than Megatron or Scavenger (there are Happy Meal TFs that are better articulated than Armada Scavenger). And of course, the mascot for Armada's engineering woes would be Hot "WhY mY ShOuLdErS hUrT?" Shot.

[5FDP]

well, if you ever decide to "part" with him just give me the heads up man :D:D

Don't worry liege... I remember, and if I ever do decide to off-load him you'll be the first to know :)

[SkyWarp91]

I'm going to add another dissapointing TF purchase to this thread, but this time it has nothing to do with the actual quality of the toy itself, but what I have discovered about the character since buying the toy.

The toy in focus is: Deluxe Universe Sunstreaker

When I first saw the Universe Sunstreaker/Sideswipe mold I really wanted to buy the toy mold because it looked so cool. I'm a TF fan that's way down on the movie spectrum end and don't really have any in-depth knowledge of most of the G1 characters, only a handful like Optimus Prime and Megatron etc. Basically I knew nothing about Sunstreaker as a character but just wanted to buy his toy because it looked cool. (really I just collect to play because im fascinated with the transforming mechanics)

About a month after having bought the cool toy, I read his biography on tfwiki, specifically his IDW comics biography and damn what a douche Sunstreaker is. Of all Autobots I know, Sunstreaker, despite his cool toy is my least favorite Autobot based purely on his character.

Has this happened to anyone else?

[GoktimusPrime]

I think most of us older buggers grew up with G1, so we were already aware of who these characters were. Also, Sunstreaker wasn't as much of a douche in original G1 as he was in Neo-G1... and while Neo-G1 Sunstreaker may have been a douche, I think it made the character interesting. Flawless characters are boring. ;)

[SkyWarp91]

I think most of us older buggers grew up with G1, so we were already aware of who these characters were. Also, Sunstreaker wasn't as much of a douche in original G1 as he was in Neo-G1... and while Neo-G1 Sunstreaker may have been a douche, I think it made the character interesting. Flawless characters are boring. ;)

Yeah I like my flawed characters too - Optimus Prime always making a heroic sacrifice that sometimes doesn't really help anyone, Megatron not killing Starscream for betraying him AGAIN and AGAIN until he became Galvatron and Ultra Magnus for not being confident enough in himself lol.

[Tober]

Alternators Decepticon Rumble.

Very disappointing for an Alternator. :(

[GoktimusPrime]

Yeah I like my flawed characters too - Optimus Prime always making a heroic sacrifice that sometimes doesn't really help anyone
Optimus Prime is a Christ-like saviour archetype, so each time he sacrifices himself he becomes more and more or a martyr. Most martyrs only become martyrs once... Optimus Prime becomes a martyr many times! But Optimus Prime's death was always in defence of something... either the lives of others or in the defence of honour. Like when he allowed Megatron to kill him after losing to him in a LAN game, even though he knew Megatron had used a cheat code to respawn himself. (reference (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/The_many_deaths_of_Optimus_Prime))

Optimus Prime is like "perfect to a flaw" - his greatest strength (i.e. compassion and honour) is simultaneously his greatest weakness. But as his TFU profile (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Transformers_Universe_%28Marvel_comic%29) states, if he didn't have this great compassion and honour then he simply wouldn't be Optimus Prime. And I think this is evident when you look at the fandom's attitude toward Dai Atlas. In Japan he is a controversial character who is widely criticised by fans for being too ruthless and lacking mercy toward his enemies. Which is true - he has an absolute "take no prisoners" attitude when he fights Decepticons. Look at what he did to poor Predaking (http://tfwiki.net/w2/images2/5/56/PredaBrain1.jpg)! Now tactically this makes sense. You're leading the Autobots in an interstellar war against the Decepticons which has been raging for millions of years -- why bother letting them retreat? All of the Decepticons that Dai Atlas fought against ended up dead. A quick and decisive victory for the Autobots (and a great way to end an entire series in a single-episode OVA :p). But yet Dai Atlas is widely disliked by Japanese fans because they see him as lacking the most fundamentally important element needed for an Autobot leader - honour and compassion. The standard set by Optimus Convoy (sic).


Megatron not killing Starscream for betraying him AGAIN and AGAIN until he became Galvatron
Megatron did admit to the stupidity of always keeping Starscream around in G2. :)


and Ultra Magnus for not being confident enough in himself lol.
To be fair it was only when he prematurely had the mantle of leadership thrust on him in TFTM. After the events of TFTM Magnus proved to be quite a reasonably good character I thought. Yes he constantly got his butt handed back to him repeatedly by Galvatron (http://tfwiki.net/w2/images2/3/32/Galvatrong1.jpg)... but of course, Galvatron was portrayed as a demi-god so ya know... t'was no easy task. ;)

[MidAge]

Alternators Decepticon Rumble.

Very disappointing for an Alternator. :(

Indeed. this Rumble cannot match the Alternator title.

[SkyWarp91]

Bringing this thread back from the dead to add a few disappointing purchases to the list:

- Classics Bumblebee : the hollow chest doesn't work for me

- RTS Special Ops Jazz : Yo jazz, where your backpaint at? And why your torso not clip onto pelvis!?!

[UltraMarginal]

I would have to say my most dissapointing purchase was probably rotf deluxe ravage. I expected it to be pretty crap. I got it for $12 at the big W sale and it was still too much.
I wanted it for completeness, but the sheer poor quality plastic and manufacturing, there are mold lines all over it, and it doesn't really fit together well in either mode, make it almost embarrasing to own.:o


I have it displayed as the Jaguar, mainly because theres no point displaying it as anything else.

the only saving grace of the 2007 movie Scorponok, is the excellent paint scheme in scorpion mode. otherwise they would almost be on par.

[Decepticon]

ROTF scout Ejector! Oooohhhh!!! a toaster!!! IM SOOOOO scaaaaared!

[1AZRAEL1]

ROTF scout Ejector! Oooohhhh!!! a toaster!!! IM SOOOOO scaaaaared!

What??? Of course it is scary, a piece of toast in the eye hurts. It's sharp, and it stings :p

[Bartrim]

ROTF scout Ejector! Oooohhhh!!! a toaster!!! IM SOOOOO scaaaaared!

Yeah plug him in then stick a knife in him. Thats pretty scary. (Of course it also relies on your own incompetence):p

[UltraMarginal]

ROTF scout Ejector! Oooohhhh!!! a toaster!!! IM SOOOOO scaaaaared!

truly though, you know that's going to be crap before you buy it, would it still be more dissapointing after you had opened it up.

[Bartrim]

truly though, you know that's going to be crap before you buy it, would it still be more dissapointing after you had opened it up.

I like Ejector actually. I've got him in alt mode on his shelf and when I show friends my collection they are like "Cool, wow, nice... hang on a toaster?!?!?!?!":D

[sanbot]

ROTF scout Ejector! Oooohhhh!!! a toaster!!! IM SOOOOO scaaaaared!

Is he supposed to be scary? I don't think that was the intent.

I like the lil dude. Fun to show to friends and if feeling fidgety can be transformed quite easily.

[SkyWarp91]

I like Ejector too, though he's just a toaster with a real funky face I think he's awesome in his own way.

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

ROTF scout Ejector! Oooohhhh!!! a toaster!!! IM SOOOOO scaaaaared!

Yeh, I got him for the excat rason the HE is a toaster! Just like my real toaster to be a decepticon as well. First batch of toast is fine, next slice, BURNT TO A CRISP! EEEEEJJJJECCCCTOOOORRRR!

I would have to go with ROTF Fallen. What the hell is that vehicle mode supposed to be? It just looks like he has put his back out and it has bits just hanging around (they don't impress the ladies either).

[Vector Prime]

My most disappointing TF purchase would have to be Universe Silverbolt - especially when I paid full RRP ($60) back when it was released (or close to it). :(

For those unfamiliar with the mold, it's basically a robot tucked underneath a shell of an airplane fitted with annoying electronic sounds and lights.

No complex transformation whatsoever either, simply fold front half of jet shell upwards, extend legs, push legs up into torso to reveal head and you're done.

I've had Legends class toys more satisfying than this guy. :rolleyes:

[LordCyrusOmega]

I only got Ejector because he appeared in the movie but I still think he's cool.

Scalpel was a real dissapointment. Out of the package and broken already. Flimsiest legs ever. No play value at all.

[primatives]

Classics 2.0 Smokescreen.

Terrible, terrible grade of plastic. I'm quite sure there are KOs made of better plastic. Got this MISB but the joints are all loose.


Yeah i agree, i think this mould is crap. the universe prowl i got the ball joint to the door broke and this mould is realyl flimsy and weak. not a fan of it. but i will be trying to track down these guys just to complete my henkei.

[gekisou]

My most disappointing TF purchase would have to be Universe Silverbolt - especially when I paid full RRP ($60) back when it was released (or close to it). :(

For those unfamiliar with the mold, it's basically a robot tucked underneath a shell of an airplane fitted with annoying electronic sounds and lights.

No complex transformation whatsoever either, simply fold front half of jet shell upwards, extend legs, push legs up into torso to reveal head and you're done.

I've had Legends class toys more satisfying than this guy. :rolleyes:

Oddly enough, its one of my fave molds. I guess its cos he actually looks like how I would imagine Silverbolt. And the fact he is easier to transform, means playing with him is awesome... unlike say Galvatron, who I still need the instructions to work him out...

[GoktimusPrime]

I like Silverbolt too. Yeah sure, he's a backpackformer, but essentially so was G1 Silverbolt which is what this toy is trying to imitate. For a backpackformer I think it works pretty well. Guess he's not everyone's Cube of Energon. ;)

I also quite like Ejector, mostly because he has such an unusual alt mode. He's only one of two Transformers ever who transform into toasters, and the ONLY Transformer toaster who has a toy (the G1 TF toaster is a very obscure character from the Marvel comics). I like Transformers with unique alt modes - that's why I'm really happy with my Universe Overcharge purchase. He's the only TF who's a taxi! :D We have sports cars and jet fighters coming out of every imaginable orifice... something new is refreshing to see from time to time. Now they need to give us a busformer, damnit! :p

[tron07]

I like Silverbolt... looks very G1 and huge, thought the transformation sucks. Same with MP Rodimus... flimsy parts and transformation.

[kaiden]

Bringing this thread back from the dead to add a few disappointing purchases to the list:

- Classics Bumblebee : the hollow chest doesn't work for me

- RTS Special Ops Jazz : Yo jazz, where your backpaint at? And why your torso not clip onto pelvis!?!

but that bumblebee is CLASSIC!

as for rts jazz, the reprolabel stickers that were made for him were pretty awesome looking.

http://www.reprolabels.com/Classics/Classics/Mapcjazz.jpg

[SharkyMcShark]

My most disappointing TF purchase would have to be Universe Silverbolt - especially when I paid full RRP ($60) back when it was released (or close to it). :(

For those unfamiliar with the mold, it's basically a robot tucked underneath a shell of an airplane fitted with annoying electronic sounds and lights.

No complex transformation whatsoever either, simply fold front half of jet shell upwards, extend legs, push legs up into torso to reveal head and you're done.

I've had Legends class toys more satisfying than this guy. :rolleyes:

This. Times 100.

[Paulbot]

Silverbolt is a multichanger (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?t=8900) if you are creative.

So far this year my most disappointing purchase has been RTS Lugnut (but everyone else here seems to love the toy or are going along with the joke, I'm not sure), followed by RTS G2 Prime.

[Vector Prime]

Oddly enough, its one of my fave molds. I guess its cos he actually looks like how I would imagine Silverbolt. And the fact he is easier to transform, means playing with him is awesome... unlike say Galvatron, who I still need the instructions to work him out...

Galvatron is frustrating and fiddly to transform, but I wouldn't put him in the same league as Silverbolt... I actually feel a sense of accomplishment (as opposed to disappointment) when I transform Galvatron.

Despite everyone's dislike for Galvatron, I think he's an awesome figure and yes, it should have been a Voyager (so it was less fiddly) but he still rates a lot higher than some of the other Universe releases in my book.


I like Silverbolt too. Yeah sure, he's a backpackformer, but essentially so was G1 Silverbolt which is what this toy is trying to imitate. For a backpackformer I think it works pretty well. Guess he's not everyone's Cube of Energon. ;)

Just because he was a backformer in G1 doesn't make it okay 25 years later when he's meant to be a modern day interpretation of a classic character - where's the marvels of present day engineering?

He probably had the lowest R&D costs of all the Universe figures since someone in the marketing department must have figured that the G1 fanboys would have bought him en masse and still be satisfied with it since he 'embodied' the G1 character, both figuratively and literally.


This. Times 100.

Yay! Someone that agrees that Silverbolt is one of the suckiest toys!


Silverbolt is a multichanger (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?t=8900) if you are creative.

So far this year my most disappointing purchase has been RTS Lugnut (but everyone else here seems to love the toy or are going along with the joke, I'm not sure), followed by RTS G2 Prime.

Lol@multichanger - I'm not that imaginative.

As for Lugnut - I think he's great (seriously) but I agree with G2 Prime.... he sucks monumentally - see my review (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?t=9858) and you'll know how much I love it. :rolleyes:

[Ode to a Grasshopper]

Silverbolt is a multichanger (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?t=8900) if you are creative.That's awesome, I was tossing up whether to get one someday but now he's a must-buy.

[UltraMarginal]

I've got to say I'm pretty happy with Silverbolt, it is very simple but it's quick and easy, and looks very good in both modes. or all 11...
I also like the transformation sound, the fact that the tone goes up in one direction and down in the other. :)

I would have been pretty bummed if I'd paid full price though. I got it for a steal, can't remember how much though.

[GoktimusPrime]

Just because he was a backformer in G1 doesn't make it okay 25 years later when he's meant to be a modern day interpretation of a classic character - where's the marvels of present day engineering?
3 word answer: Electronic Sound Gimmick.

Behold the wonders of compromised engineering when a toy is designed around an electronic sound block. :(


Lol@multichanger - I'm not that imaginative.
My schoolfriends and I came up with this mode for Cosmos back in 1985 one lunchtime...

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y227/goktimusprime/Transformers/cosmos_sexysatellite.jpg Sexy Satellite Mode!
As Cosmos' tech specs explains, he gets really lonely (and probably bored stiff) stuck in orbit... so we gave him this mode for him to hover in geostationary orbit above beaches and perv on topless bathers. ;)


So far this year my most disappointing purchase has been RTS Lugnut (but everyone else here seems to love the toy or are going along with the joke, I'm not sure), followed by RTS G2 Prime.
I like Lugnut... don't quite love him as much as others do, but I like him enough. The fact that I only paid $22 probably contributed -- wouldn't have paid full price for him. ;) But I do prefer him a lot over Animated Luggers.

[Mr Ed]

Worst few (cant split them)

Megatron - 2007 movie
Brawl - 2007 movie
Ultra Magnus Animated.

These 3 must go down as the worst of all time!

[ITZTRU]

So far this year my most disappointing purchase has been RTS Lugnut (but everyone else here seems to love the toy or are going along with the joke, I'm not sure)

Oh, good -- I thought it was just me! I don't own the the toy, but I still failed to understand what the big deal with this guy was? :confused:

[GoktimusPrime]

Worst few (cant split them)

Megatron - 2007 movie
Brawl - 2007 movie
Ultra Magnus Animated.

These 3 must go down as the worst of all time!
I still say Transformers Animorphs are the worst TFs of all time. Can get much crappier than that :)

I like Animated Ultra Magnus too -- though I can see how the shoulder configuration may bug some people.

Which versions of movie Megatron and Brawl are you talking about? I like Deluxe Brawl (even with the shoulder issue, which can be fairly easily "solved") and Legends Brawl is okay for a $7 toy and I thought Leader Brawl was pretty crap. The Movie Megatrons... they're all pretty ordinary, but that's cos they're based on the movie design which just doesn't translate well as a toy. So I don't blame HasTak so much for the movie Megatrons -- Paramount just made him weird looking. Leader Class movie Megatron is probably the worst value for money just because he's so expensive... but I can't stand the non-removable ice-kibble on Voyager Megs (otherwise I would have totally passed on the Leader and gotten the Voyager instead). The feet on Voyager Megs bugs me too. Legends Movie Megatron... pretty underwhelming, but I suppose as the cheapest of the Movie Megatrons he's probably the best value. The FAB Brawl mould is actually okay -- although I think all the FABs are overpriced. Probably worth getting if cheap. Never handled FAB Megatron for myself, but it doesn't look impressive. Robot Replicas are an even bigger rip off than FABs IMO.

[Wheel-J]

Ultra Powerglide. I don't know. I thought its transformation is something cleverly made and then after, I realized where could I fit it on my classics display...

For non-TF, the roadbuster upgrade kit. it was all good until I broke it. Bad quality plastic.

[k.wong23]

I like ultra silverbolt, but maybe I'm bias because I paid $10 for him :p

[GoktimusPrime]

I like Powerglide -- I know he cops a lot of flak from people and some folks don't like his orange boobs. They don't bug me so much. I got the Japanese version though... didn't like the Universe version. Although I probably would've bought Universe Powerglide if Hasbro had called it "Hot House" (and made his head match the rest of the body instead of being red ;))

I know some people have repurposed Hasbro's Powerglide as Hot House... but at an Ultra price point, I couldn't justify the expense.

[Vector Prime]

Oh, good -- I thought it was just me! I don't own the the toy, but I still failed to understand what the big deal with this guy was? :confused:

Go get him and bathe in all his Glorious-ness and you shall understand. :p


I like ultra silverbolt, but maybe I'm bias because I paid $10 for him :p

He's definitely worth $10, just not $60. :(

[LordCyrusOmega]

Had another play with transscan Bumblebee last night. In play value it's a nice concept, a bit chunky in camaro robot mode and lacking something in protoform mode.
A dissapointment as both his legs came off. the cockets have a crack in them and now they won't stay in. Also the entry mode doesn't look as good as it could with a few extra pieces and its just the core robot head.
Guess my expectations were just to high

[Mr Ed]

I still say Transformers Animorphs are the worst TFs of all time. Can get much crappier than that :)

I like Animated Ultra Magnus too -- though I can see how the shoulder configuration may bug some people.

Which versions of movie Megatron and Brawl are you talking about?

Leader class @ nearly $90 each :mad:

[GoktimusPrime]

Leader Classes are seldomly worth their RRP. They'd be better if Hasbro didn't keep insisting on whacking sound gimmicks into them.

[ITZTRU]

Leader Classes are seldomly worth their RRP. They'd be better if Hasbro didn't keep insisting on whacking sound gimmicks into them.

Yet most of us buy them anyway...!

[GoktimusPrime]

Depends on what the options are.

With Brawl I totally skipped the Leader Class because I was perfectly happy with the Deluxe Class which I considered a better toy. With Movie 1 Megatron I got the Leader Class because I didn't like how the ice kibble on the Voyager wasn't removable. If it were, I would have happily skipped the Leader and gotten the Voyager (even if the spring loaded toes bug me). Leader Movie Optimus Prime is actually a very good toy IMO - arguably the best Optimus Prime toy made since G2's Laser Prime. :) I got ROTF Leader Prime because it's an even nicer toy! I got ROTF Leader Megatron because I didn't know there was going to be a Voyager Megatron coming out later. :( I'm trying not to make that mistake again so I'm trying to find out what toy classes HasTak's planning on making of each DOTM TF. I even made a thread about it (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?t=9836), but nobody's posted. :(

I got Leader Jetfire cos... well, there isn't much choice other than getting a FAB or Legends, which I don't consider "compatible" with my other Deluxes, Voyagers, Leaders...

I got movie Prime, ROTF Prime and ROTF Megatron on sale thankfully... but paid full RRP ($99.99!) for movie Megatron and Jetfire! :( They were both hard for me to find, so I just grabbed them when I could (then later Megatron shelfwarmed... and was put on sale... gah)

[UltraMarginal]

Depends on what the options are.

With Brawl I totally skipped the Leader Class because I was perfectly happy with the Deluxe Class which I considered a better toy. With Movie 1 Megatron I got the Leader Class because I didn't like how the ice kibble on the Voyager wasn't removable. If it were, I would have happily skipped the Leader and gotten the Voyager (even if the spring loaded toes bug me). Leader Movie Optimus Prime is actually a very good toy IMO - arguably the best Optimus Prime toy made since G2's Laser Prime. :) I got ROTF Leader Prime because it's an even nicer toy! I got ROTF Leader Megatron because I didn't know there was going to be a Voyager Megatron coming out later. :( I'm trying not to make that mistake again so I'm trying to find out what toy classes HasTak's planning on making of each DOTM TF. I even made a thread about it (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?t=9836), but nobody's posted. :(

I got Leader Jetfire cos... well, there isn't much choice other than getting a FAB or Legends, which I don't consider "compatible" with my other Deluxes, Voyagers, Leaders...

I got movie Prime, ROTF Prime and ROTF Megatron on sale thankfully... but paid full RRP ($99.99!) for movie Megatron and Jetfire! :( They were both hard for me to find, so I just grabbed them when I could (then later Megatron shelfwarmed... and was put on sale... gah)

I think the only leader class I've paid full price for was probably movie 07 prime. Everything else, I waited for sales on, and at the reduced prices, they have been well worth it, I quite like brawl, the leader class size does the Tank justice. I got ROTF megs for about $45 and in the black deco, while I like it, I wouldn't have wanted to pay full price for it.
I think the voyager megs from the movies were personally a bit dissapointing. from a class that you expect a fair amount of complexity they were both pretty basic. but then that could be said for all movie megs'. I think maybe Movie Megs was a dissapointment however you look at it.:(

[dirge]

Just because he was a backformer in G1 doesn't make it okay 25 years later when he's meant to be a modern day interpretation of a classic character - where's the marvels of present day engineering?


Given the white plane/red & gold robot looks back then, he was always going to be a backpack-former this time around. For me, Silverbolt has two main failings, both of which were easily avoidable:

1) The colours. Why isn't the plane mode white, and why is the robot mode that weird cardinal red? I got the Henkai one, which has proper colours (and it's a LOT better).

2) The transformation was always going to be simple, given the nature of the character. So doing him at the size they did was a mistake. Would have been a MUCH better toy if done as a deluxe (or even a voyager) without the essentially pointless electronics. More bang for your buck, and wouldn't feel so damn simple if he was a smaller toy.

So yeah, Hasbro messed it up, Takara did a decent job. But it should have been done smaller (and without Hasbro's stupid colours).

I'm not saying you have to like it, of course - I can understand why you dislike the toy. He has limitations which the character design brings (and I suspect they trouble you), but the designers added others which bring him down further.

[SkyWarp91]

Human Alliance Leadfoot. Paid a hefty price for him too. So bad, I feel so horrible!!!