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Hursticon
14th November 2010, 03:53 PM
Courtesy of TFW2005.com (http://www.tfw2005.com), apparently Generations: Thunderwing's Instructions (http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/universe-classics-20-29/thunderwing-remolded---japanese-black-shadow--energon-megatron-or-galvatron-170905/) reveal a Remolded Head.


http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/attach/3/9/4/1/3/thunderwing-remold_1289703140.jpg


Curious indeed...

FFN
14th November 2010, 03:56 PM
Reminds me a bit of Deathsaurus.

Sky Shadow
14th November 2010, 04:03 PM
It's got to be Black Shadow - I wonder if the United version will skip Thunderwing for the time being and go straight to this version. I also hope there's some reference to his function being "Space Gangster." :p

1AZRAEL1
14th November 2010, 04:04 PM
I think the fellas on TFW have picked it right, as Black Shadow (http://www.tfu.info/1989/Destron/BlackShadow/blackshadow.htm)

Funny that we find out some of the retools when we look at the instruction booklets :p

And Sky Shadow beat me to it :p

1AZRAEL1
14th November 2010, 04:06 PM
Even down to the chest looks like Black Shadow.

kaiden
14th November 2010, 04:12 PM
black repaints are trendy

gdmetro
14th November 2010, 04:12 PM
I was passing on thunderwing but man I am almost certain to pick up a black shadow if the paint apps are half decent.

The original looks great, and from the instructions, looks like black shadow will be pretty darn awesome.

1AZRAEL1
14th November 2010, 04:19 PM
black repaints are trendy

True, but at least they are doing a retool/remold properly, as in the original Black Shadow was a retool of Thunderwing anyway. I think it will be awesome.

heroic_decepticon
14th November 2010, 04:29 PM
looking forward to this....

1AZRAEL1
14th November 2010, 04:36 PM
Wonder how many other Pretenders they plan on giving the CHUGU treatment. Bludgeon (although not technically CHUGU, still neato), Skullgrin, Thunderwing, now Black Shadow. Makes you wonder what else they have up their sleeves.

Whoever they have employed in the planning and design, they need to keep on for a long time.

Hursticon
14th November 2010, 04:44 PM
looking forward to this....

Me too because My Classicsverse Decepticon Army requires more bolstering! :D

"Decepticons Forever! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJxHnuA3PgI)"

kaiden
14th November 2010, 04:44 PM
Whoever they have employed in the planning and design, they need to keep on for a long time.

2010 has been a crazy year for collecting Transformers and I'm already worried about my budget for 2011 >_<

1AZRAEL1
14th November 2010, 04:45 PM
2010 has been a crazy year for collecting Transformers and I'm already worried about my budget for 2011 >_<

I think we are all worried about our budgets heh. Been quite a year this year, and next year looks to be even better (or worse from the perspective of my wallet :p)

GoktimusPrime
14th November 2010, 07:59 PM
Wonder how many other Pretenders they plan on giving the CHUGU treatment. Bludgeon (although not technically CHUGU, still neato), Skullgrin, Thunderwing, now Black Shadow. Makes you wonder what else they have up their sleeves.
Certainly not Gunrunner. :p A CHUGUR Carnivac would be sweet as. :D

SharkyMcShark
14th November 2010, 08:05 PM
Wonder how many other Pretenders they plan on giving the CHUGU treatment. Bludgeon (although not technically CHUGU, still neato), Skullgrin, Thunderwing, now Black Shadow. Makes you wonder what else they have up their sleeves.

Whoever they have employed in the planning and design, they need to keep on for a long time.

To be fair the ones you've listed have only had the Generations and Universe treatment (and not Classics, Henkei or Universe).

(God I hate that ever expanding acronym)

Edit: (As a testament to its growth Goktimus managed to expand it by a further letter while I was writing this)

GoktimusPrime
14th November 2010, 08:33 PM
Hey, not my fault Hasbro went and made "Reveal The Shield." IMO Hasbro should never have moved away from calling this line "Classics" to begin with. (-_-)

Well, according to the poll (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?t=9075) most folks here prefer to call CHUGUR "Classicsverse" - which was also what I voted for. I'm happy to call it "Classicsverse" (sure beats saying "Chugger" all the time) :)

liegeprime
15th November 2010, 12:55 AM
Me too because My Classicsverse Decepticon Army requires more bolstering! :D

"Decepticons Forever! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJxHnuA3PgI)"

Wait til Scourge gets released, tehn youll have all the back up figs you want hehehe - usually there's 6 more Sweeps with galvy so 7 figs to bolster your troops quite well.;)

dirge
15th November 2010, 10:54 PM
Wonder how many other Pretenders they plan on giving the CHUGU treatment. Bludgeon (although not technically CHUGU, still neato), Skullgrin, Thunderwing, now Black Shadow. Makes you wonder what else they have up their sleeves.


Gunrunner? It'd be hard to _not_ improve on the original! :D

A Black Shadow retool is an excellent idea.

GoktimusPrime
15th November 2010, 11:14 PM
Now all they need to do is give us Classicsverse Crossblades with a retool/repainted Blue Bacchus! :D

Bartrim
16th November 2010, 09:32 AM
Now all they need to do is give us Classicsverse Crossblades with a retool/repainted Blue Bacchus! :D

Yeah Black Shadow needs his partner in crime. Plus I think the name Blue Bacchus sounds cool:cool:

Hursticon
17th November 2010, 02:28 PM
Wait til Scourge gets released, tehn youll have all the back up figs you want hehehe - usually there's 6 more Sweeps with galvy so 7 figs to bolster your troops quite well.;)

Ha! :D
A very good point there Liege, I don't know if I'll be purchasing six - but 1x Takara and 3x Hasbro releases sounds like quite an intriguing proposal. ;):D


Yeah Black Shadow needs his partner in crime. Plus I think the name Blue Bacchus sounds cool:cool:

I agree, the name does sound cool so it would be interesting to see if they have any plans for him in the pipeline. :cool:

1AZRAEL1
28th November 2010, 12:19 PM
I was just thinking that remolding Thunderwing into Black Shadow is kind of strange. Black Shadow was unknown to me until this popped up. Weird that they would go for a pretty obscure character, one that was only released in Japan.

Sky Shadow
28th November 2010, 12:29 PM
I was just thinking that remolding Thunderwing into Black Shadow is kind of strange. Black Shadow was unknown to me until this popped up. Weird that they would go for a pretty obscure character, one that was only released in Japan.

Isn't it the opposite of strange, remoulding Thunderwing into the same toy he was originally remoulded into? :) Also, keep in mind that for Japanese markets, it's Thunderwing who's the obscure character. So for United, Black Shadow is the mould that makes sense - it's probable that was part of the Hasbro/Takaratomy plan from the beginning.

1AZRAEL1
28th November 2010, 12:44 PM
Isn't it the opposite of strange, remoulding Thunderwing into the same toy he was originally remoulded into? :) Also, keep in mind that for Japanese markets, it's Thunderwing who's the obscure character. So for United, Black Shadow is the mould that makes sense - it's probable that was part of the Hasbro/Takaratomy plan from the beginning.

I suppose looking at it like that makes sense. Not complaining though, I will be buying both of these anyhow :D

GoktimusPrime
28th November 2010, 03:19 PM
Also, keep in mind that for Japanese markets, it's Thunderwing who's the obscure character.
Absolutely. I once had a Japanese Transfan who - when entering my collection room, went straight for toys like my 1988 Targetmasters (e.g. Quake, Quickmix etc.) and my 1989 Pretenders (e.g. Bludgeon, Thunderwing, Doubleheader etc.) and was totally amazed and drooling at these highly exclusive rare and obscure toys (from a Japanese POV)... much in the same way that Westerners would drool over say Dinoking.

SkyWarp91
18th January 2011, 12:29 AM
For such a unique mold, if Hasbro are going to redeco/retool this toy who do you think will be released? I'm hoping Leozack!

Vector Prime
18th January 2011, 12:37 AM
This has already been discussed extensively here (http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?t=9343) :)

The general consensus is Black Shadow (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Black_Shadow)

SkyWarp91
18th January 2011, 12:38 AM
woops, looks like my hopes aren't coming true LOL