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Ryathalas
18th November 2010, 07:40 AM
I'm not sure where there going with this one,It'll make a good MOTUC Conan though:confused:

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b214/yleehs/148875_467429239843_57309659843_5446100_3797030_n. jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b214/yleehs/155501_467429374843_57309659843_5446102_4268726_n. jpg

kup
18th November 2010, 07:50 AM
That guy couldn't be more Conan, dress him up in a suit and he could be an action figure of the former Governator :).

I like how they are expanding the lore by adding history between the era of King Grayskull and that of Prince Adam by adding 'sub' He-Men in between as guardians.

They should expand on who was the main villain for each era.

Ryathalas
18th November 2010, 07:54 AM
My Son just saw the picture and he said who's that? Conan?

I laughed

:D

Btw I'm not sure but wasnt the original MOTU line going to be a Conan movie line but they Didnt get the right's or something and they had this whole line all slated to go,So they went with MOTU and created there own character's.

kup
18th November 2010, 10:59 AM
Here is some infor from wikipedia on the Conan Connection:

There is an enduring urban legend about the so-called "Conan toyline." The story is that the Mattel Toy Company originally intended to base an action figure line on Conan the Barbarian, the pulp fantasy character created by Robert E. Howard which at the time was the lead in several popular series produced by Marvel Comics and due to be the subject of a major movie. However, after viewing the film, the Mattel executives despaired at the thought of promoting a children's toy with ties to a film featuring such graphic sex and violence. Thus they gave their doll blonde hair and re-dubbed him "He-Man". The legend is unverified but persistent, and most likely false since the first He-Man action figures were produced in 1981, a year before the first Conan film. Roger Sweet, the originator of He-Man, asserts that the He-Man/Masters Of The Universe concept definitely was not an outgrowth of Conan. The He-Man concept, later renamed the Masters Of The Universe, was originated and developed by Roger Sweet in late 1980. Later, that initial concept was followed by the original comics by Donald F. Glut. The Conan license had been dropped by Mattel months before the He-Man concept was begun. Such fantasy artists as Frank Frazetta and Boris Vallejo, made famous previously through their barbarian themed art, were undoubtfully a great inspiration for the MOTU creators. For instance, while designing the first He-Man prototypes, some artists like Mark Taylor brought forth a very Conan-esque dark haired He-Man bearing a horned helmet and barbaric outfit [32]
Although Conan is not "officially" a source of inspiration, Mattel may have taken advantage of his resemblance by hiring comic book artists (mostly working for DC comics and Marvel Comics) to design the mini-comics and box art. Earl Norem for instance, having worked on countless Savage Sword of Conan covers for Marvel, was kept in high esteem by Masters of the Universe fans for his astonishing posters, package inlays and box art. The confusion and "Conan toyline" urban myth may have stemmed from the striking similarities between Norem's Conan depictions.[33] and He-Man [34]

I personally do feel that Conan is more of a source of inspiration for MOTU rather than being directly based upon.

You can notice that early comics and depictions of the characters and as the article above states, that is likely the source of the rumor about MOTU originally intended to be Conan.

Tallestblue
18th November 2010, 12:35 PM
I don't care what he's called. This dude is Conan. So much so I hope Mattel doesn't get sued by Robert E. Howard's estate. I love the all the prototype/concept characters in MOTUC. Not really a fan of the multiple He-Men idea but as long as I get a He-Ro, son of he-man figure in the next five years I'll be happy.

Ryathalas
18th November 2010, 03:01 PM
Not really a fan of the multiple He-Men idea but as long as I get a He-Ro, son of he-man figure in the next five years I'll be happy.

He-Ro

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b214/yleehs/motuchero5.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b214/yleehs/he-ro_bio.jpg

He's not He-man's Son

:D

Ryathalas
18th November 2010, 03:08 PM
Here is the Conan figure my Grandma bought me during the 80's

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b214/yleehs/dcmocconan-1.jpg

Sky Shadow
18th November 2010, 03:36 PM
He-Ro

He's not He-man's Son

:D

That's a different He-Ro.

http://old.he-man.org/cartoon/exclusivefeatures/exclusive-heroseriesbible-cover.shtml

http://old.he-man.org/cartoon/exclusivefeatures/exclusive-heroseriesbible-17.shtml

http://old.he-man.org/cartoon/exclusivefeatures/exclusive-heroseriesbible-22.shtml

However, I'm 99% sure that Mattel won't have the rights to do the Lou Scheimer He-Ro, unfortunately.

Ryathalas
18th November 2010, 03:40 PM
That's a different He-Ro.

http://old.he-man.org/cartoon/exclusivefeatures/exclusive-heroseriesbible-cover.shtml

http://old.he-man.org/cartoon/exclusivefeatures/exclusive-heroseriesbible-17.shtml

http://old.he-man.org/cartoon/exclusivefeatures/exclusive-heroseriesbible-22.shtml

However, I'm 99% sure that Mattel won't have the rights to do the Lou Scheimer He-Ro, unfortunately.

cool didnt even know this existed

kup
18th November 2010, 04:05 PM
Here is the Conan figure my Grandma bought me during the 80's

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b214/yleehs/dcmocconan-1.jpg

Fascinating. I looked up Remco and discovered that this Conan figure is actually from 1984 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remco) so it was released a couple of years after MOTU debuted.

It is more likely that these Conan figures although not exactly KOs, are mimicking the toy style of MOTU since by then it had proven to be a successful toy line.

Robzy
19th November 2010, 12:13 AM
I quite like the idea of MOTUC including these "concept art" figures... kinda reminds me of the McQuarrie Series Star Wars had a couple of years ago...

I hope they make one (http://www.grayskullmuseum.com/conception/skeletortaylor2.jpg) of the "concept" Skeletors (http://www.grayskullmuseum.com/conception/skeletor2taylor2.jpg) too eventually.

kup
19th November 2010, 08:46 AM
The first link could easily be mistaken for Conan. It is clear that although early He-Man may not have been intended to be Conan, that it was heavily influenced by it.

liegeprime
19th November 2010, 09:30 AM
He-Ro

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b214/yleehs/motuchero5.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b214/yleehs/he-ro_bio.jpg

He's not He-man's Son

:D


Aaah so that's who He-ro is.... but then does that mean he got killed in battle - "heroic death" it says in the figure info. That sword is cursed I tells yah!!:D:D:D evryone it is passed on DIES! - heroic death my ass, it's still death prolly getting spiked by spears or flanked by arrows or something, worse eaten by snakemen:p

gekisou
19th November 2010, 11:49 AM
I was about to say that I don't recognize Vikor from any of the canon... its cool though but I think I won't get him. LOL

twincobra
19th November 2010, 09:17 PM
Cant wait for Vikor he looks awesome!:)

Tallestblue
25th November 2010, 02:45 PM
I've been doing some looking around and "Vikor" looks exactly like Frank Frazetta's version of Conan! I'm halfway tempted to run screaming through streets yelling "Vikor is Conan! Open your eyes people!!"

And on another note, if Mattel is so Gung-Ho for their Proto-He-men, Who else is wanting an MOTUC Blackstar?

twincobra
25th November 2010, 07:10 PM
I would like to see mattel make motuc updates of the knock off lines, like this guy
http://www.poeghostal.com/2009/06/meet-gecko.html:) there are heaps of ofther cool knock offs that would look great in motuc.

kup
25th November 2010, 07:26 PM
I would like to see mattel make motuc updates of the knock off lines, like this guy
http://www.poeghostal.com/2009/06/meet-gecko.html:) there are heaps of ofther cool knock offs that would look great in motuc.

Apparently not all of these figures are Knock Offs. For example Argentina's Fuerza T (http://www.brianstoys.com/store/category.aspx?categoryID=2193) which is composed of characters with mismatched parts from the MOTU line are not KOs at all.

Mattel seems to have been just as shortsighted as Hasbro on the future of the line and decided to sell off the original MOTU molds once their production runs were over. In the case of Fuerza T, an Argentinian toy company bought the molds and created it's own unique and perfectly legit line of action figures using MOTU molds.

twincobra
25th November 2010, 07:51 PM
Your right about Fuerza T i love those mix and match parts and colour combos they did,from what i remember mattel had to buy all the original motu toys off ebay to make new molds for the reissue line a while back.

kurdt_the_goat
16th December 2010, 06:57 PM
Great news for us MOTUC fans, Vikor's ankles have been changed to remove the unsightly holes, and fix the floppy problems!

Hopefully that means all future releases will be better too! Full first look on Action Figure Pics (http://thefwoosh.com/2010/12/first-look-masters-of-the-universe-classics-vikor)

Looking ahead, I wonder if they can do this to the other joints as well, cause that would surely be awesome!

http://i52.tinypic.com/rtp3zq.jpg

kup
16th December 2010, 07:27 PM
I am not sure if this has been done for aesthetic value only or to tackle the loose ankle joint problem. With the original 'system' there was no need for the external peg hole to begin with as the inner 'peg' is fairly deep within the hole.

we shall see as I plan to get Vikor too.

Did anyone get Buzz-Off last night?

Sky Shadow
16th December 2010, 08:03 PM
Did anyone get Buzz-Off last night?

Mine was shipped at 4:23 this afternoon. :)

Robzy
17th December 2010, 05:29 PM
Did anyone get Buzz-Off last night?
Yes... stupid Matty has charged me for (and shipped) 3 of the damn things!! I only ordered 1 :rolleyes:

I can't believe it - I've emailed them and said I only ordered 1, but they said it's too late to cancel the other 2 cos they've already been shipped. Seriously, Digital River/Matty are useless. Absolutely useless!

So now I have 2 extra Buzz Offs I've been charged for and don't want! I'm happy to sell them if anyone wants them. What a joke - Why couldn't they make this mistake when I wanted Trap Jaw?! Unbelievable.

kup
17th December 2010, 06:16 PM
Yes... stupid Matty has charged me for (and shipped) 3 of the damn things!! I only ordered 1 :rolleyes:

I can't believe it - I've emailed them and said I only ordered 1, but they said it's too late to cancel the other 2 cos they've already been shipped. Seriously, Digital River/Matty are useless. Absolutely useless!

So now I have 2 extra Buzz Offs I've been charged for and don't want! I'm happy to sell them if anyone wants them. What a joke - Why couldn't they make this mistake when I wanted Trap Jaw?! Unbelievable.

They can't do that. If your initial check-out email says that you only ordered one, then you should be refunded for the other two.

kup
24th December 2010, 11:09 AM
Not-Conan is on Matty now along with the January figures:

http://www.mattycollector.com/store/matty/en_US/DisplayShopperDefinedBundlePage/OfferID.6799436509

That's a lot of awesome stuff there, specially for one month.

I am planning to get:

1x Vikor
1x Palace Guards (maybe 2x, depends as it's somewhat expensive - I expected BC price)
3x Stands

I am not sure if I should get that Evil-Lyn, I was hoping for a white skinned one like the cartoon and that magazine scan. I guess that I could sell the loose Evil-Lyn I have currently.