Generations Thundercracker

[Tober]

BBTS.com have a listing for Deluxe Generations Thundercracker (http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=HAS19799&mode=retail&picture=aux1).

No pics yet.

[kaiden]

awesome. i'll be able to complete the seekers! without need of exclusives or knockoffs :)

[gdmetro]

Wow if the news is accurate... they actually did it. And there were those that swore that it would never get released under Hasbro. I will def go by my word and pick up one atleast... although I do have the KO Henkei one already.

[Sky Shadow]

It had better be in Action Master colours...

[1AZRAEL1]

It had better be in Action Master colours...

I'd buy it if it was.

Hey wait, I'm gonna buy it anyway :p (even though I have henkei TC)

[Tober]

It had better be in Action Master colours...

Ofcourse it is...


http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/27125360d1257374203-great-action-master-thundercracker-thread-classics_am_thundercracker.jpg


... in your dreams!!! :eek:

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[Sharky]

It had better be in Action Master colours...

with the current trend or releasing actionmaster toys (well names and colours at least)

this would be awesome addition to the seeker family, after all they gave us acid storm....

[Sky Shadow]

Ofcourse it is...


http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/27125360d1257374203-great-action-master-thundercracker-thread-classics_am_thundercracker.jpg

So... pretty...


... in your dreams!!! :eek:

Nooooooo!

[Hursticon]

This is great news, if it wasn't just pure speculation at the moment - No pics or Official word causes me concern... :(

[1AZRAEL1]

This is great news, if it wasn't just pure speculation at the moment - No pics or Official word causes me concern... :(

Well surely a great business like BBTS won't lie to us :p

[Tober]

It's realistic enough. According to BBTS the 4 pack wave consists of Scourge, Sergeant Kup, Thundercracker and Wheeljack. Wheeljack is another new announcement.

Some are speculating that maybe Thundercracker is a War for Cybertron mold. But you'd think they would release Starscream first.:rolleyes:

[1AZRAEL1]

It's realistic enough. According to BBTS the 4 pack wave consists of Scourge, Sergeant Kup, Thundercracker and Wheeljack. Wheeljack is another new announcement.

Wheeljack was announced a while back though. Shortly after we saw pictures of Tracks, there were pictures of prototype Wheeljack.

[Tober]

Wheeljack was announced a while back though. Shortly after we saw pictures of Tracks, there were pictures of prototype Wheeljack.

I meant announced by BBTS as a listing, soz... :o Apparently he wasn't there before.

[liegeprime]

Well surely a great business like BBTS won't lie to us :p

JUst like the president and the prime minister dont lie.....:D:D have wikileaks look at it so we could be certain...:p

[kup]

It had better be in Action Master colours...

We can only hope ;)

[dirge]

I hope we see a regular TC and them Sky Shadow's favourite eyesore in a later wave (a repaint with some meaning).

[Paulbot]

Some are speculating that maybe Thundercracker is a War for Cybertron mold. But you'd think they would release Starscream first.:rolleyes:

You'd think... but a War Within Thundercracker toy did come out before War Within Starscream.

[liegeprime]

I hope we see a regular TC and them Sky Shadow's favourite eyesore in a later wave (a repaint with some meaning).

meaning = workers in the factories in China were drunk during production and someone in Hasbro was drunk to approve the release.....:D Id buy it though hehehe

[Robzy]

Thought this might happen once Dirge was released. Great news!

[GoktimusPrime]

I hope we see a regular TC and them Sky Shadow's favourite eyesore in a later wave (a repaint with some meaning).
Clownstorm. :p

[Tober]

You'd think... but a War Within Thundercracker toy did come out before War Within Starscream.

Titaniums? Yeah, we also got a Sunstorm out of that line...

[Tallestblue]

*Does Toy dance of Joy*

Here's hoping it's the classic seeker mold in blue with some nice red touches (Maybe even a thunderbolt decal or two?) Apologies to fans of the Action master colours.

[5FDP]

Well it about time!

Good news for those that are after a Generations Thundercracker to complete their set. I missed out on Skywarp and would love to see them reissue him on his own so I don't have to pay inflated prices on eBay for a toy that's not even MISB (no interest in Magnus).

Having said that though, I'm satisfied owning the RM versions of Thundercracker and Skywarp.

[jaydisc]

Wow if the news is accurate... they actually did it. And there were those that swore that it would never get released under Hasbro. I will def go by my word and pick up one atleast... although I do have the KO Henkei one already.

I still hold fast in my belief that it's either not G1 blue (rather Action Master, G2, or whatever) or not the Classics seeker mold (rather WFC)

However, I hope for everyone's sake that wants a G1 Thundercracker, you get what you want.

[Lordy]

I hope it is true, I really would like a Classics TC to go with my original G1 and MP versions.

[heroic_decepticon]

This is great news to all out there. I have a Henkei TC, but would certainly be buying one of these too (cos he's my second favourite seeker).

For the second time in history, I really hope that they do him in the cartoon shade of blue which they have done for the TC RobotMasters release (http://www.unicorncottagecompany.com/starscream/shrine/rm-tc.jpg).

[kup]

This is great news to all out there. I have a Henkei TC, but would certainly be buying one of these too (cos he's my second favourite seeker).

For the second time in history, I really hope that they do him in the cartoon shade of blue which they have done for the TC RobotMasters release (http://www.unicorncottagecompany.com/starscream/shrine/rm-tc.jpg).

That's probably the best color they could come up with for this release. It is appealing yet different to the previous 'Classics Thundercracker' releases and will not pee off the Botcon people.

[Quickstrike]

If it's just a redeco of the Classics mold (which seems the most likely) I'd like him coloured like Armada Thundercracker. Or Actionmaster colours.

[jaydisc]

Well, I'm wrong (http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/generations-wheeljack-and-thundercracker-revealed/20464/). It's G1 TC all the way. Congrats to everyone who wants him!

I can't but help wonder if the rise of the KOs would have assisted Hasbro in breaking their agreement (or agreeing to a new one) with FunPub regarding this figure. It's certainly doesn't look very different to the FunPub one.

[Hursticon]

F@#$ Yeah!

This is awesome, awesome confirmation for those who don't have crazy Henkei/Botcon budgets with regards to Thundercracker - Finally I'll be able to have all the Seekers in Classicsverse form!

Oh Happy Day! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLY7yI1xV-M)

Oh, Wheeljack looks Transorgasmic too! :p

[Vector Prime]

Something tells me this entire wave will be in high demand! :p

Congrats to those that don't already have TC... I'll be grabbing him too even though I already have the Henkei version :D

[gdmetro]

(Just saw jay's post)

TC looks pretty good although somewhat darker shade of blue.

Def will pick him up!

[Tober]

Kinda suprised they didn't go with the cartoon light blue.

Good news tho. :D

[heroic_decepticon]

Well, I'm wrong (http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/generations-wheeljack-and-thundercracker-revealed/20464/). It's G1 TC all the way.

Gah, not sure a fan of this colour, but at least it'll be different from the Henkei colours...

[griffin]

I find it funny that people in that seibertron news post are upset about just buying the KO thundercracker... and some even complaining that Hasbro didn't give them enough notice about it to prevent them from buying the KO. :rolleyes:


Well, I'm wrong (http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/generations-wheeljack-and-thundercracker-revealed/20464/). It's G1 TC all the way. Congrats to everyone who wants him!

I can't but help wonder if the rise of the KOs would have assisted Hasbro in breaking their agreement (or agreeing to a new one) with FunPub regarding this figure. It's certainly doesn't look very different to the FunPub one.

Even if there was some sort of agreement of exclusivity, it is Hasbro's prerogative as the property owner to produce any item it sees fit, at any time. FunPub essentially 'beg' Hasbro to produce these toys, so they won't risk cutting themselves from the source by complaining about it.
We've also seen other exclusives appear at sources other than their initial store (like the TF1 Target Scouts, SDCC Alternators, etc) and those stores still 'beg' for more - there were probably disclaimers or jurisdiction issues that allows Hasbro to re-release or redeco any figure at any time. Hasbro owns the moulds, the characters and all associated concepts (like colour schemes), so can do anything they want.
And even if this one was the exact same deco as the BotCon one, it will be almost 4 years since that earlier one, so I think it's been enough time for people to not be as upset about it, as those collectors will have had 4 years of 'elitism', and the toys will still be worth a lot as BotCon exclusives.

[Tallestblue]

Yay!!!! Yay for it being Straight-up no crazy AM colours not WFC but G1 Thundercracker!! Thank you Toy Jesus!!!


...now if we could just have a Generations Arcee please?



...oh and Blitzwing?

[Pipesqueak]

Wow. Almost never do I want an entire wave, but I can't say no to any of Thundercracker, Scourge, Wheeljack or Kup!

[Gutsman Heavy]

One can never have too many Thundercrackers, I'm in.

[GoktimusPrime]

Kinda suprised they didn't go with the cartoon light blue.
Looks like they did the same thing that BotCon did and gave Thundercracker a 'medium' blue. Not as light as the cartoon, but not as dark as the original G1 toy and Marvel comics. So it's like a compromise to appease both groups of fans, which I think works well. :)


Wow. Almost never do I want an entire wave, but I can't say no to any of Thundercracker, Scourge, Wheeljack or Kup!
+1 :)

I already have Gentei Thundercracker, but I'll pick up a RtS Thundercracker too. :D Scourge's wings look a bit weird -- but that's just my G1 fanboy bias kicking in. Objectively speaking Scourge's alt mode looks a lot better than G1 Scourge's since it's clearly meant to be a bomber jet (whereas G1 Scourge's alt mode seriously looks like a boat! :P)

[Sky Shadow]

<Sigh> I hate the universe right now. :(

[Lord_Zed]

<Sigh> I hate the universe right now. :(

Catastrophe averted. We are safe from the second comming of AM Thundercracker for now.....:D

[Zippo]

Now I am going to have to get Acid Storm again ...
Great news Hasbro. Just need to re-release Skywarp on a single card (maybe in Classics 4)

[Golden Phoenix]

Does anyone think this will have an impact on the Takara Thundercracker?

[Sky Shadow]

Does anyone think this will have an impact on the Takara Thundercracker?

The secondary price will go down, as will the price for the Botcon one. Plus, only idiots will consciously buy the knockoff Thundercrackers now, which is a great up-yours to the knockoff merchants.

[jaydisc]

If Dirge and Thrust are any indication... for sure.

After Kup, Scourge, Jazz and now Thundercracker (and I'm sure there are others), I will most likely not bother buying Botcon Classics-ish toys any more, especially if they're major characters, as it now seems pretty certain that Hasbro or TT will eventually provide. Personally, I think that's a much more preferable option, as FunPub hasn't done anything for me lately (read: ever), and obviously the mass market price is considerably better.

Remaining Botcon Classics-ish characters I can think of that haven't hit mass market:

Sharkticon
Dreadwind
Bug Bite (obscure character)

Any others?

[Sky Shadow]

Remaining Botcon Classics-ish characters I can think of that haven't hit mass market:

Sharkticon
Dreadwind
Bug Bite (obscure character)

Any others?

It depends on what you count, but I'd say Weirdwolf, Huffer, Alpha Trion and Elita-1 still fall into that category. Plus there are toys that have Classicy versions in different moulds - Springer, Ratchet, Ironhide, Kup, Scourge etc.

[Lord_Zed]

A Generations Dreadwind would rock, but I wonder how many fans it would tick off. Plus we got Darkwind not a year ago.

Still I'd love to see Hasbro make a combining Dreadwing.


AM Thundercracker would have made a great Botcon toy this year, seems weird they didn't go for it, maybe they are saving him for the TF club.

[griffin]

One thing I just realised is that those official images are usually over-coloured, so the actual Thundercracker may well end up being a lighter shade of blue. Probably not as light as the cartoon version, but could end up being a different enough colour from the BotCon or JP versions to help them keep their uniqueness/value.

And perhaps FunPub's exclusives/redecos are like a catch-22 - they want them to be popular enough to sell out, but if they are too popular, Hasbro might see the value in releasing them to the general market.

[SkyWarp91]

When TC reaches aussie stores I probably can't be stuffed trying to find Starscream or Skywarp molds because of their current rarity and price and will now buy 3 TCs and repaint 2 of them! Or should it be 4 for Sunstorm too? WOO!

[jaydisc]

It depends on what you count, but I'd say Weirdwolf, Huffer, Alpha Trion and Elita-1 still fall into that category. Plus there are toys that have Classicy versions in different moulds - Springer, Ratchet, Ironhide, Kup, Scourge etc.

I'd agree with all of those.

And in the cases of Springer, Ratchet, Ironhide, Kup & Scourge, they've all seen after-Botcon mass-market releases (although Springer as only a repaint). The first four are a bit more obscure, but I wouldn't be surprised if we eventually see a mass-market Huffer.

To me, something like AM or G2 Thundercracker would be so much more suited to a Botcon release. It's more obscure, has considerably less mass-market appeal and considerably more hardcore-fan appeal.

[Vector Sigma 13]

i wish id never sold my Henkei Ramjet now... :(

[valkyrie_76]

Another TF bought for next year :D

[KillinSpoon]

havemymoney.jpg
God dammit, time to find me a Ramjet and Skywarp...
This entire wave is awesome, I'll have no money soon enough though! :(

[1AZRAEL1]

Even though I too own Gentei TC, I will still buy this release. Now I just need Thrust to have a complete set of Universe Seekers. I'll still keep my exclusive figures though.

[fatbot]

Well, I'm wrong (http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/generations-wheeljack-and-thundercracker-revealed/20464/). It's G1 TC all the way. Congrats to everyone who wants him!

I can't but help wonder if the rise of the KOs would have assisted Hasbro in breaking their agreement (or agreeing to a new one) with FunPub regarding this figure. It's certainly doesn't look very different to the FunPub one.

BOOOO!

ME WANT ACTION MASTER COLOURS!

[Seraphim Prime]

It's funny that people forget that at the time the Botcon set was released Hasbro had no plans to continue the Classics line. It was an interim line with limited mould designed to tide people over until the movie. Cue the 2007 movie, all efforts were being placed in that, and therefore no Classics toys were on the horizon, so FunPub asked if they could pick up the slack and Hasbro actually tried to do right by the fans by saying yes to FunPub.


Now that Hasbro's plan seems to be to alternate between a Movie line and a Classic line, there is a greater desire from within Hasbro to complete certain collections of figures (eg: the seekers, the Autobot cars, etc).

With that all said, the TC images look awesome! And again following in Hasbro's behaviour of homaging the orignal toy rather than necessarily copying the show model.

[Sleeve]

This (http://www.petitions24.com/keep_thundercracker_exclusive) makes me laugh.

I'm pretty sure a petition to release Thundercracker to mass-market, (obviously not needed now), would garner a hell of a lot more votes.

[1AZRAEL1]

Haha I love some of the peoples names. None that I can post here :p

[gdmetro]

Ditto on the names :D

Wow..petition? really? Decision for Hasbro: Benefit a very small minority by not releasing and make a potential loss or benefit majority and profit?- Yes very hard decision. As if that would change any plans for Hasbro to release- considering the figs are probably in production already.

[Hursticon]

Petition = http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Webpics/th_lol.gif (http://s1032.photobucket.com/albums/a409/Darkone666au/Webpics/?action=view&current=lol.gif)

At the end of the day, yes the exclusive figures will loose a little value but they're still going to be worth far more, Hasbro will only benefit from releasing the figure so that renders the whole argument moot - like gdmetro said. ;)

[GoktimusPrime]

I like how someone signed the petition under the name of Julian Assange. :p

[1AZRAEL1]

I like how someone signed the petition under the name of Julian Assange. :p

Maybe it was really him :p

And I noticed that you posted in the discussion, am I correct? :D

[Tallestblue]

All right, some of the comments on that petition seem a bit too offensive to me. But the Idea of keeping Thundercracker as an exclusive is only marginally less offensive. I will be eternally grateful to Hasbro for the Classics/Universe 2.0/Generations line. So you won't see my name on that petition or a colourful euphemism either.

[kup]

It's funny that people forget that at the time the Botcon set was released Hasbro had no plans to continue the Classics line. It was an interim line with limited mould designed to tide people over until the movie. Cue the 2007 movie, all efforts were being placed in that, and therefore no Classics toys were on the horizon, so FunPub asked if they could pick up the slack and Hasbro actually tried to do right by the fans by saying yes to FunPub.




QFT

At this point, nobody not even Hasbro knew that the Classics line would continue. They changed their mind shortly afterwards but the official stance at the time was that Classics were over, finished.

Yeah some crazies bought their seekers at US$300 a pop but there is no point in crying over spilled milk and we now have enough experience to judge on the likelyhood of Hasbro recreating an exclusive character for the mass market.

[Sky Shadow]

New petition:

Hasbro, get Thundercracker's colours right!

Dear Hasbro,

It has come to our attention that you are releasing the Classics Starscream mould as Generations Thundercracker. Unfortunately, the photoshopped colours are completely wrong - you've made him white where he should be purple or teal, black where he should be fluorescent green or GPS gold, dark blue where he should be hot pink etc. In summary, it's a complete shemozzle. But hopefully it is not too late, and you can correct the colours for the final release. If not, please forward this petition to TakaraTomy so at least they can get the United version right.

Yours faithfully,

1. Sky Shadow
2. Is A Loser
3. I Really Mean It
4. 1AZRAEL1
5. Sharky
6. Kup
7. The signatory was too embarrassed to show his/her name on the Internet
8. Seriously, Sky Shadow, You Are An Idiot

[Tallestblue]

New petition:

Hasbro, get Thundercracker's colours right!

Dear Hasbro,

It has come to our attention that you are releasing the Classics Starscream mould as Generations Thundercracker. Unfortunately, the photoshopped colours are completely wrong - you've made him white where he should be purple or teal, black where he should be fluorescent green or GPS gold, dark blue where he should be hot pink etc. In summary, it's a complete shemozzle. But hopefully it is not too late, and you can correct the colours for the final release. If not, please forward this petition to TakaraTomy so at least they can get the United version right.

Yours faithfully,

1. Sky Shadow
2. Is A Loser
3. I Really Mean It
4. 1AZRAEL1
5. Sharky
6. Kup
7. The signatory was too embarrassed to show his/her name on the Internet
8. Seriously, Sky Shadow, You Are An Idiot

I stand corrected, THIS is a more offensive petition. lol

[heroic_decepticon]

I stand corrected, THIS is a more offensive petition. lol

+1 !!!
:D

[fatbot]

New petition:

Hasbro, get Thundercracker's colours right!

Dear Hasbro,

It has come to our attention that you are releasing the Classics Starscream mould as Generations Thundercracker. Unfortunately, the photoshopped colours are completely wrong - you've made him white where he should be purple or teal, black where he should be fluorescent green or GPS gold, dark blue where he should be hot pink etc. In summary, it's a complete shemozzle. But hopefully it is not too late, and you can correct the colours for the final release. If not, please forward this petition to TakaraTomy so at least they can get the United version right.

Yours faithfully,

1. Sky Shadow
2. Is A Loser
3. I Really Mean It
4. 1AZRAEL1
5. Sharky
6. Kup
7. The signatory was too embarrassed to show his/her name on the Internet
8. Seriously, Sky Shadow, You Are An Idiot


You forgot to add my name to the list Skyshadow! ME WANT ACTION MASTER COLOURS!

[kaiden]

wow the petition says the were duped into paying more?!?!

that's such a stupid claim. nobody ever forced the the world to go to botcon to pay a lot of money for exclusive figures. either you want it or you dont.

[popculturepooka]

I like how someone signed the petition under the name of Julian Assange. :p
That was me. :D

[Sky Shadow]

You forgot to add my name to the list Skyshadow! ME WANT ACTION MASTER COLOURS!

You're number 7, FB. ;)

[fatbot]

You're number 7, FB. ;)


Me? Embarrassed? Hah! You din't know me that well do you?

[Sky Shadow]

Me? Embarrassed? Hah! You din't know me that well do you?

(Actually, I had you as number 3 on the original list, but when I decided to change that to "I Really Mean It", your name must have gotten lost in the renumbering. Sorry FB.)