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primatives
24th December 2010, 02:34 PM
Ok so I bought G1 Octane and G1 Autobot clones from ebay waited over a month for it didnt show up only to find out it was shipped to one of my gf's colleagues address because she used my account to buy something on behalf of him and forgot to change his address.

I find out that he has opened it and given it to his son. He is currently on holiday til next year. My girlfriend offered to rebuy it for me but man I am more pissed knowing that some little kid has my toy which from pictures looks in pretty good condition. If it was a junker then whatever. I am however REALLY anal about the condition of TF's I aquire. Just that from the pictures the clones look really new and was told joints tight on both and really annoyed cos the chrome condition looked on Octane was really good and made sure it was brand spanking new which could turn out to be a KO.

I don't play with my TF's and dont even transform them and if I do its once and are left on display. Just me knowing it is tight makes me happy and in good condition. Even though they will never be played with ever again.

So my gf feels really bad and I have tried not to bring it up or avoided talking about it to her just so I can calm down and think things over. I dont want my gf to buy me a new set cos i dont want her to spend money and just annoying that i went to all that trouble to find something good. I dont want to have to go thorugh it again.

So am I just being a loser having a cry over nothing? Anyone get really angry over some piece of plastic???

Sky Shadow
24th December 2010, 03:12 PM
I think there are several factors here. It is completely wrong that this man should have given the toys to his son - he knew he hadn't bought them, and presumably he could have worked out that they were yours. It's also ridiculous that he needed to order something on an eBay account that was three people removed. Seriously, how hard is it to buy something on eBay? It's annoying that your address was changed on eBay - if you knew your girlfriend had been using it then I suspect you should have double-checked everything was right before you put the payment through, so in that case this isn't really her fault. As long as you gave your girlfriend permission to use the account, then I don't think she should be blamed for anything. If she did it without you knowing then this is a problem too and it means everyone carries part of the blame in this situation. Obviously worse things could happen, but it still sucks.

Lint
24th December 2010, 03:31 PM
Yes you should be angry. Gifting something away that is not yours is wrong. In fact I would take this up with the gf's colleague when he gets back from holiday. It may be just some piece of plastic to him but it was really important to YOU.

Don't blame the gf though. It's the gf's colleague and your own fault that this happened.

Tetsuwan Convoy
24th December 2010, 03:42 PM
I agree with Lint, be angry and the guy who gave the toy to his kid. And be angry with yourself for not checking the address when you put the payment through.

That's where the buck stops really. All this hassle could have been avoided if you had a look at the address. unless she did the transaction without your knowledge then its a bit different, unless you have an agreement that she can use your account. Still, I feel that GF is the least guilty party in this situation.

Sharky
24th December 2010, 03:46 PM
i tend to agree it is not the gf's fault so it is not fair on her to blame her however, the colleague should of known that these items were not his and should of enquired about them if he knew the source or it was a mistake and a straight return to sender. were they addresed to you via his address or were they addressed to him if it was the first he should of know straight away and then not opened it,

a tricky situation for sure

jaydisc
24th December 2010, 04:32 PM
My condolences. That is frustrating. It is that time of year where the father could have legitimately thought it was a gift for his son, but I might be playing a devil's advocate a bit too much.

I'd either ask for the specific toys you ordered (this isn't a retail purchase. You bought specific vintage kit. You don't want a replacement) or FFS, you want your money back.

Hursticon
24th December 2010, 05:04 PM
I'm going to go against the grain here as I believe that your GF does actually carry a larger degree of fault, why?, if she asked to use your account and knew she had to change the address details then she should've had the common sense and decency to revert them back to their original state. :mad:
I've been brought up with the rule that if you borrow something, you put it back in the condition you found it and exactly where you found it. :cool:

Now, this 'colleague' needs a good dressing down because whilst it may be regarded to some as an oversight, what he did is akin to mail theft which is a Federal Offence - I'm not saying go out and have him charged but what he did is highly rude and just outright wrong, hell I'd ask him to reimburse me the full cost of the items. :mad:

Certainly a crap series of events, yeah it's Xmas so don't go doing any thing immediately or rash, maybe wait until the new year and then bring it to a head. ;)

My 2 cents. :o

heroic_decepticon
24th December 2010, 05:17 PM
I think there are several factors here. It is completely wrong that this man should have given the toys to his son - he knew he hadn't bought them, and presumably he could have worked out that they were yours. It's also ridiculous that he needed to order something on an eBay account that was three people removed.

+ 1 on that. My first thought was 'what the f**k's this guy's problem', pardon the french. It's a pretty big stretch of the imagination for him to think that a parcel which arrives with his name, without anything else inside like a card or something, was meant to be a present for his son?!?

In this situation, him, your gf and yourself all have to share the blame, but the biggest issue is this guy giving it to his son. It would really be no biggie if he'd kept the parcel, enquired who it belongs to and then handed it back to you. No damage done other than maybe the expense of meeting up and getting it back.

I don't know about you guys, but I'd lose it if someone gave my vintage TFs to a kid unrelated to me without my authority to do so. It's just a complete lack of common sense on this guy's part.

gdmetro
24th December 2010, 05:18 PM
Were the items misb? or mib?

Even after taking into account that there was a mix-up between your gfs use of the account or you not checking the address of the account- The father is to blame for the majority if not all of this problem. You cannot gift something that is not yours to give- and there is no excuse for him to have taken the contents of the package and treated it as it was his own property when it clearly was not.

Considering the fact that he had used YOUR ebay account, in the colleague's position and situation there is no excuse as the reasonable action to take would have been to make a reasonable inquiry about the package, especially considering the contents of the package, who sent it and the reason for sending (i.e. was it a gift or ebay/online purchase or something else). I'm assuming the package was addressed to him otherwise he would not have grounds to even open it.

[After taking these actions it should have been clear to the colleague that the package was yours or your gfs (or atleast not his), and the right thing to do would be to give it back to its rightful owner- not give it to his son to open.]

And thinking its a gift to his son? Really? Ignoring the fact that it's a vintage toy, just looking at the sender (whom he most likely would not know). Would you consider it reasonable to accept a gift from someone you don't even know and not inquire about it before accepting it? and giving to your son nonetheless? (That would not be reasonable IMO).

Considering the situation theoretically and objectively- without consideration of real-world relationship between your gf and any consequences thus arising after, I would demand compensation from the guy in full for the amount you paid for it- although practically being able to enforce it is another thing.

[Only my opinions on the mattter].

And to answer your question- I would be angry if I were you, but would try to be more level-headed in dealing with the situation. I would of course, also try to enjoy the holidays since it's christmas.


Hope you do eventually sort this out- and merry christmas!

primatives
24th December 2010, 05:22 PM
haha cool now i don't feel so bad for getting so worked up!! I'm a hothead when it comes to my vintage g1's!!!!

Well I can do now is wait and hope the toys come back in a decent condition and not loose as a goose when i get it back!!!

I will be extra cautious when I buy from my account now!! I did tell me gf to change the address back.

Sam
24th December 2010, 05:29 PM
If the man knew the items were not meant for him, why did he go ahead and open them, and then give them to his son?

The right thing to do would have been for him to say to your gf "Hey, I think these aren't mine, I didn't buy them, perhaps there's some mistake and you should hang onto them."

As a matter of principle, don't touch what's not yours. The fact that they are sought after figures makes it that much harder to put up with what's happened.

I don't think you're crying over nothing. I'd get angry too if I were you.

Mr Ed
24th December 2010, 06:08 PM
You have every right to be pissed off.

Your GF's colleague must be a serious loser clearly they dont respect your property with your name on it.

This goes to show how doing the right thing and helping people out can seriously bite you.

Although, I am a bit puzzled, I thought when you buy stuff on EBAY, they confirm the address with you?

griffin
24th December 2010, 08:26 PM
Unfortunately, if it was addressed to him, he would have opened it up, and once realising that it wasn't something he bought, he would either keep it or return it to the sender (if the sender didn't nominate that it was to be abandoned if undeliverable, as it could have incurred a cost to send it back). If there was no indication as to who bought the item, and IF he actually asked the post office about returning it but found it would cost him money to do so (once it was opened), he may have been stuck with it (if there was no contact email for the seller in the package).

If it happened to me, and something arrived with my name on it without any contact email or any idea who bought it, I would ask the post office if it can be returned free, and if not, I would hold it for a few months to see if anyone I knew mentioned it or contacted me about it. After that, there's not really anything to do... and I wouldn't just throw it out.
It's unfortunate that these vintage Gen1 toys have ended up in the hands of kids, further shrinking the pool of mint or good condition figures, but at least if he exhausted all options, the toys went to 'a good home' instead of just being discarded in the trash.

As for the GF... she should have changed the settings back, if being allowed to use someone else's account (yours).

Doubledealer
24th December 2010, 11:18 PM
Ray Tango (re: colleague): When this is over, we have to pay Jabba the Hutt here a visit.
Gabriel Cash: I'll bring the chainsaw.
Ray Tango: I'll bring the beer.

GoktimusPrime
24th December 2010, 11:51 PM
Aaaarrrgghhh... I can't believe those toys got given to a kid under those circumstances. That's SpasticPower-Core-Combiner!!


I don't play with my TF's and dont even transform them and if I do its once and are left on display.
Aww, but Transformers are heaps fun to play with!! :D Which reminds me, I got a floor full of G1 Headmasters to pack up (I was playing with them earlier this arvo) before going on my road trip tomorrow morning. Then I gotta choose a toy to bring with me... hrmm... :cool:

griffin
25th December 2010, 12:00 AM
Aaaarrrgghhh... I can't believe those toys got given to a kid under those circumstances. That's SpasticPower-Core-Combiner!!


But they're toys... and he's probably like most normal people and just sees that, without knowing that they are vintage toys that should only be 'played with' by Adults. It's like those people who give away toys and stuff to charity stores or have a garage sale - it's just another toy to them. As such, they went to the most likely candidate for toys - kids. Not surprising really.

Tober
25th December 2010, 03:16 AM
In my opinion, blame falls on whoever was responsible for changing the address and not changing it back afterwards. If this usage of your account happened with your consent, then you should have checked.

I can't quite figure out how it ended up at your colleagues address if you paid for it. Sellers ship to the address on the PayPal statement. Was your eBay account linked to your 'friend's' PayPal details? Or did you pay via direct debit thus using the eBay listed name and address..? :confused:

As for the colleague, a bit difficult to gauge. Maybe he thought it was a Christmas present for his kid from an uncle or wife's friend he didn't know. Not many people outside of TF collectors know that a 25+ year old toy is valuable if in a good condition.

If the kid likes it and takes good care of it maybe you can take some solace in that. But, yeah, I'd be pissed about it too.

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It's not 'mail fraud' if the package is addressed to the recipient. It's not really theft if he thinks it's a gift for his kid.

GoktimusPrime
25th December 2010, 09:30 AM
But they're toys... and he's probably like most normal people and just sees that, without knowing that they are vintage toys that should only be 'played with' by Adults. It's like those people who give away toys and stuff to charity stores or have a garage sale - it's just another toy to them. As such, they went to the most likely candidate for toys - kids. Not surprising really.
Maybe he didn't even know they were vintage toys -- assuming this guy's totally ignorant about Transformers and they were in near mint enough condition that one might think that they're just regular toys. But if something doesn't belong to you, why would you give it away to other people (be it children or adults)? But then again, I suppose if I received a package with my name on it, I would assume that it was intended for me unless there was a note attached to it saying otherwise (or if I were told beforehand to expect a package on someone else's behalf).

primatives
25th December 2010, 01:18 PM
I can't quite figure out how it ended up at your colleagues address if you paid for it. Sellers ship to the address on the PayPal statement. Was your eBay account linked to your 'friend's' PayPal details? Or did you pay via direct debit thus using the eBay listed name and address..? :confused:



That's quite confusing because I used my paypal account and that address is still the same so I dont know how the other adddress ended up being sent to the seller.

oh well its a waiting game now.

jaydisc
26th December 2010, 08:27 AM
I can't quite figure out how it ended up at your colleagues address if you paid for it. Sellers ship to the address on the PayPal statement. Was your eBay account linked to your 'friend's' PayPal details? Or did you pay via direct debit thus using the eBay listed name and address..? :confused:

My partner had a similar situation. She only had her new addresses in PayPal, but somehow something got shipped to her old address. The old address was still in her eBay address book, and while she made the right choice at PayPal checkout, the wrong choice was still sent to the seller, who wrongfully acted on it. Perhaps you can PayPal dispute it. That would suck for the seller though.

GoktimusPrime
26th December 2010, 08:30 AM
Pardon my ignorance of eBay and Paypal... but are you able to message the seller to let them know that your address provided by Paypal may no longer be accurate and give that seller a copy of your current postal address? Even after you've notified PayPal of your change of addy... just to be on the safe side -- c'est possible?

liegeprime
26th December 2010, 08:53 AM
Pardon my ignorance of eBay and Paypal... but are you able to message the seller to let them know that your address provided by Paypal may no longer be accurate and give that seller a copy of your current postal address? Even after you've notified PayPal of your change of addy... just to be on the safe side -- c'est possible?

AFAIK, when on checkout using paypal - the final details are laid out there for you to final check before you hit the confirm payment thingie so this is quite weird if the Paypal address was ignored.

canofwhoopass_87
26th December 2010, 05:28 PM
Ah dude it's only octane and the clones, you can easily get cheap replacements. We all make mistakes man! I'm sure your gf feels bad. I don't think throwing a tantrum over it is quite in the spirit of Christmas.

I've been in a very similar situation myself, but it's not till after everything is resolved that you realise how much of an ass you were. Hopefully you get them back in good order.

BTW, Id be cautious of that Octane. I think an ideal one would have at least some chromewear on the underside of the tanker cover.

primatives
30th December 2010, 08:55 PM
Ah dude it's only octane and the clones, you can easily get cheap replacements. We all make mistakes man! I'm sure your gf feels bad. I don't think throwing a tantrum over it is quite in the spirit of Christmas.

I've been in a very similar situation myself, but it's not till after everything is resolved that you realise how much of an ass you were. Hopefully you get them back in good order.

BTW, Id be cautious of that Octane. I think an ideal one would have at least some chromewear on the underside of the tanker cover.


haha man!! I've been looking for these guys for ages!! They dont have many on ebay and look crap I think alot of them are yellow, I think??? Yeah i made sure Octane at least has some scratches on it and not so new looking to make sure its not fake :)

SharkyMcShark
31st December 2010, 12:19 AM
What a load of tripe in this thread.

Apparently it's alright to open mail blatantly not for you and claim it if its Christmas. :rolleyes:

Explain to the guy that they're rare collectibles from almost thirty years ago and ask for their return. If they've been broken or have had parts lost (which is more than likely seeing as young kids are involved) then ask to be recompensed. If the figure has been reduced basically to junker status (which again is more than likely seeing as young kids are involved) then ask for all your money back (print out the paypal receipt) or if just accessories have been lost then use ebay to get a price range for them.

liegeprime
31st December 2010, 12:45 AM
So, are you going to get back your items primatives? has the co-worker been informed of the situation or they still on holidays? This guy better not be angry as he is the one on the wrong for claiming what is not rightfully his.... just keep your cool yeah.

heroic_decepticon
31st December 2010, 02:11 AM
Like I said earlier, I think it's totally NOT okay for someone to take what is not theirs and on-give it to someone else.

I know we should give this co-worker some benefit of the doubt, but if he exercised some common sense, he would come to the conclusion that people won't be so 'cheapskate' as to give his son used toys (since the figures were not MISB). His first question should be 'why is someone giving me some used toys'. Giving him benefit of the doubt that he does not know they are vintage collectibles, these things should be quite worthless in his eyes. Wouldn't it follow that a prudent adult would enquire as to who is shameless enough to give his kid opened, used, toys (which could be dangerous to the kid). And if he so enquires, he would find out that the toys were not meant for him or his kid.

I may be imputing too much, but I think this guy is just cheap and greedy (sorry, got a low tolerance for people who do not appear to have the capacity to behave in a common-sense reasonable manner).

primatives
31st December 2010, 06:29 PM
So, are you going to get back your items primatives? has the co-worker been informed of the situation or they still on holidays? This guy better not be angry as he is the one on the wrong for claiming what is not rightfully his.... just keep your cool yeah.


Nah not yet I have to wait til the 17th of jan til he gets back, I'm hoping the kids doesnt have the toys with him or else i think i will be binning them hahaha. I'm trying to stay cool its bloddy hot outside! :p

Haha before I posted this thread heoric_decepticon was the 1st person I thought of who would be on my side seeing as he gets all the good stuff I cant imagine if someone got a hold of his stuff!!! Thankfully mine isn't sealed or anything!

dirge
31st December 2010, 06:55 PM
The ***** who gifted something which he should have suspected had something to do with with colleague's eBay account is in the wrong, IMO. Sure, you should have checked your PayPal address, but that changes nothing in terms of the way this guy acted.

I'd be demanding either he hand me the toys in the condition of the eBay listings, or the cost of the toys + postage. I find it incredibly unlikely that he somehow honestly thought the world is that nice to send him free toys & would not be giving benefit of the doubt.

Mr Ed
10th January 2011, 01:02 PM
So what has come of this situation now?

Its after Xmas and people are back at work?

JuzMel
10th January 2011, 04:30 PM
Sorry to hear that, hopefully the colleague's son hasn't done anything "harmful" to your toys. :(

If your girlfriend had bought the stuff from your account, she should have just left the address as yours and let them post it to you, then brought the item to work to give him.

Note for future ref: Don't ever share your account with anyone. I have had colleagues who wanted me to help them sell stuff as well etc - I just said no as they can set up an account and do it themselves. I don't even agree to lending the other half my PayPal account! :D

Fungal Infection
10th January 2011, 04:41 PM
So what has come of this situation now?

Its after Xmas and people are back at work?

Try reading the entire thread people.


Nah not yet I have to wait til the 17th of jan til he gets back, I'm hoping the kids doesnt have the toys with him or else i think i will be binning them hahaha. I'm trying to stay cool its bloddy hot outside! :p

Mr Ed
13th January 2011, 01:45 PM
Try reading the entire thread people.

Thank you

STL
13th January 2011, 02:45 PM
Hopefully it works itself out.

If not, I'd just cut skitz at both my GF and the bogan. Don't know why the GF would be making purchases for someone else from my account. Second, general douche bag shouldn't gift a present not his. I think a statement needs to be made. People say they feel sorry often but generally do very little to act on it.

Feeling all sorry inside is all great, you being left with the bucket is not great.

Tabias Prime
13th January 2011, 03:08 PM
Note for future ref: Don't ever share your account with anyone. I have had colleagues who wanted me to help them sell stuff as well etc - I just said no as they can set up an account and do it themselves. I don't even agree to lending the other half my PayPal account! :D
No truer word were said...

UltraMarginal
13th January 2011, 03:54 PM
WOW, what a situation!!

Looks to me like there is a bit of fault in everyones camp, most of all the guy who gave the toys to his kid. Though my general opinion of humankind is sometimes disturbingly low, so it doesn't actually surprise me that he did this.

I'd suggest, getting your girlfriend to get in contact with him asap to ensure he understands the value of these to you. that way they can be put to the side until they come back from their trip, assuming that the toys are on the trip with them.

I'd suggest that when the opportunity arrives, you inspect the toys, if you are not happy with their state, that's when I'd ask for reimbursement from the colleague for the toys, showing your eBay invoice. keep in mind that they are not perfect already so they will have some wear. if there is damageed/missing accessories, you could expect maybe partial reimbursement and search for the spares, frustrating but a solution.

The other thing you need to remember is that these were made in the 80's so they are tough toys, if they were in good nick when they arrived, barring really rough treatment, they should be in just as good a nick when you pick them up. I still have all my tranformers from the 80's and though many of them are stiff/loose, they are generally all in good condition. The hours of play and work they've been subject to is orders of magnitude greater than these figures would be subject to in a couple weeks. These toys are designed to last years of play by kids, not days.

So, i'd say cool down, communicate well and it should all work out fairly well. I'm sure your girlfriend is truly sorry, being close enough to you to be considered a gf, she must have some understanding of your hobby. And maybe next time someone wants to borrow your eBay account, politely suggest that they get their own as it's not that hard and they will surely use it again in the future.

Anyway, hope it works out well, let us know the outcome when it happens.

cheers
UM:cool:

primatives
17th January 2011, 06:30 PM
hey guys just thought I'd update on the situation. Ok so I got the toys back they are in quite good condition so I'm happy about that BUT the guy threw out all the parts that came with Octane without knowing it, it was taped to a piece of cardboard so he didn't check!!! I'm quite annoyed, he did offer to reimburse me the money for the parts. I wonder if he'll get a shock knowing that each item costs about $20 each. I didnt get the spoiler for the clones but he'll check at home so I hope he at least finds that!


Now if any of you guys know where I can get all the parts of Octane please let me know thanks!!!

Hursticon
17th January 2011, 06:36 PM
Glad to hear that something positive has occurred Primatives :), perhaps if you show him evidence of the prices the parts goes for - he'll be less likely to baulk at your requested reimbursement? :o

Sky Shadow
17th January 2011, 06:39 PM
That is so spastic over-run. The guy is a dick richard and deserves to have his own testicles accessories forcibly removed and promptly lost or thrown in the garbage.

gdmetro
17th January 2011, 08:33 PM
I reckon you should buy the parts missing, then show him the receipt so he can reimburse you for the purchases.

Get that in writing as well before you do it.

heroic_decepticon
17th January 2011, 11:54 PM
The octane tanker cover is pretty hard to come by, esp with the chrome in good nick. Also it'd be hard to ensure that it's not KO....

Hursticon
18th January 2011, 10:22 AM
The octane tanker cover is pretty hard to come by, esp with the chrome in good nick. Also it'd be hard to ensure that it's not KO....

Heroic speaks the truth, I myself have been looking for that exact piece for a couple of years now and I'm starting to think I'm going to just have to buy a new complete one. :(

Saintly
18th January 2011, 12:26 PM
I reckon you should buy the parts missing, then show him the receipt so he can reimburse you for the purchases.

Get that in writing as well before you do it.

+1

1AZRAEL1
18th January 2011, 02:02 PM
Good luck trying to track down the parts, they are not cheap and are hard to find anyway. As SS put it, he is a real richard :p

UltraMarginal
18th January 2011, 03:10 PM
hey, that's good news that most of it is fine. The guy probably didn't even realise that there should have been other parts to look for :(...
since he's offered to reimburse you for the parts, I think it's probably fair to do a world wide search on ebay, and other similar sites, maybe try that new crave site? show him what a comparable one of each part is selling for and get the cash. the sooner you get it the better, if you wait too long to ask him for it, he may end up telling you he's not doing it anymore. strike while the irons hot in other words, while he still feels bad for it.

I also think if you can't find the individual parts find a listing for the figure that has those parts and include that as the price. if you end up with one or two figures more, let him have thm to give to the kid, as long as you're not any further out of pocket.

As frustrating as it is, it seems the guy is being reasonable and the situation is working out rather well so far.

Above all though, I'd get prices for the parts ASAP and get the money out of him for them as a month or two from now he's probably not going to feel so worried about it. if he does balk at the costs, remind him politely of the highley collectible nature of the figures.

hope it works out.
UM

GoktimusPrime
18th January 2011, 03:50 PM
Even if it was taped to cardboard... those parts aren't tiny (especially Octane's shield - it's pretty big and chunky). It's not like he accidentally chucked out a missile or landing gear. Since he's volunteered to compensate you I reckon you should take him up on his offer. If he complains about the price, then well -- if HE can find them cheaper elsewhere (in acceptable condition), then by all means go ahead and buy them. Otherwise he'll basically need to bite the bullet and just pay up.

kup
18th January 2011, 04:37 PM
The Ocaten accessories are normally worth more than the loose figure itself.

It's going to be pretty expensive and difficult to locate those parts but who knows, you might get lucky.

GoktimusPrime
18th January 2011, 04:42 PM
It's going to be pretty expensive and difficult to l octane those parts but who knows, you might get lucky.

It's not gonna be expensive for primatives if that other guy keeps his word and pays for them. ;) :D

primatives
18th January 2011, 06:13 PM
just found out he lost the spoiler foe the clones as well!! :mad: Quite annoyed now i have to find all the parts grr.

thanks guys for the support! :)

1AZRAEL1
18th January 2011, 06:15 PM
Gotta make him pay for it. He took something that didn't belong to him and lost parts of it, it's only fair that he pays for replacements of those parts.

liegeprime
18th January 2011, 07:45 PM
Hope this helps primatives.... Octanes tanker cvover though - good luck with that... you might be able to chance upon one but it'll always have some chrome wear.

Fastlane's spoiler
http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-G1-Transformers-Fastlane-Spoiler-/350165348915?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item51877b3233

GoktimusPrime
18th January 2011, 09:12 PM
primatives: perhaps you could negotiate with that guy about buying an Octane with spoiler, then selling Octane without the spoiler to recoup some of the cost. Either way, he owes you an Octane shield and if getting it separately proves too difficult then he needs to consider other options.

Sky Shadow
18th January 2011, 09:26 PM
primatives: perhaps you could negotiate with that guy about buying an Octane with spoiler, then selling Octane without the spoiler to recoup some of the cost.

I think you mean Fastlane. But yes, that would be cheaper than buying a spoiler.

blackie
18th January 2011, 09:46 PM
yes
yes you should

heroic_decepticon
19th January 2011, 12:43 AM
The Ocaten accessories are normally worth more than the loose figure itself.

It's going to be pretty expensive and difficult to l octane those parts but who knows, you might get lucky.

Agree man. Octane shield and tanker cover is pretty expensive...


just found out he lost the spoiler foe the clones as well!! :mad: Quite annoyed now i have to find all the parts grr.

thanks guys for the support! :)

... And spoiler (with a nice sticker on it) is also hard to find.

I feel for you man. I reckon you should tell him to keep the toys and pay you the entire amount it cost you, including shipping. Better to start hunting from scratch then hunt for those hard to find parts...

GoktimusPrime
19th January 2011, 12:56 AM
I think you mean Fastlane. But yes, that would be cheaper than buying a spoiler.
Actually, I meant to say shield, not spoiler. :p

UltraMarginal
19th January 2011, 01:42 PM
So 1AZRAEL1 mentioned this on the ebay items thread, thought I'd assist by throwing in the link

http://cgi.ebay.com/Transformers-G1-Weapons-and-Parts-Miscellaneous-/320645199854?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aa7f177ee

thanks to 1AZRAEL1 for the heads up.

1AZRAEL1
19th January 2011, 01:44 PM
Not as good quality as it should be, but it's something to look at anyway :)

Saintly
20th January 2011, 04:04 PM
ummm a separate question to primative (from a friend of mine who took interest), the girl must be pretty hot if you allow her to borrow your ebay account?

primatives
21st January 2011, 07:06 AM
ummm a separate question to primative (from a friend of mine who took interest), the girl must be pretty hot if you allow her to borrow your ebay account?

Haha she is hot, shes my gf :p

thanks guys for that g1 weapons lot link I am keeping an eye out for it was thinking of bidding 45AU?? or more?? What do u reckon? at least i can get all 3 at once and not have to scour ebay for each part?? what do u guys think?

UltraMarginal
21st January 2011, 10:33 AM
Haha she is hot, shes my gf :p

thanks guys for that g1 weapons lot link I am keeping an eye out for it was thinking of bidding 45AU?? or more?? What do u reckon? at least i can get all 3 at once and not have to scour ebay for each part?? what do u guys think?

It's handy tht it's come up, I'm not particularly experienced in bidding for vintage stuff online, I generally bid what I'm willining to spend and then miss out:(. If the guy has agreed to pay for it, maybe you could afford to bid a little higher than you might normally to be confidant in getting it. of course if you're not satisfied with the quality don't bid.

canofwhoopass_87
30th January 2011, 12:50 PM
My good friend Nathan who runs roboticplanet just got a complete G1 Octane set in stock.

http://roboticplanet.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=4614

It might be worth mentioning me (canofwhoopass) too, he might even throw in free first class shipping if you buy a few items :p

Anyway hope it helps

primatives
30th January 2011, 08:01 PM
thanks man!! :) does he run it from overhere does he?

canofwhoopass_87
30th January 2011, 08:10 PM
Nah man he's in America. Great guy though, I prob bought 1/3 of my G1's from him.

primatives
24th February 2011, 04:50 PM
Ok i thought i'd update and post some pics :) Man i ended up with 3 Octanes and 2.5 sets of the Clones. I don't know about you guys but having incomplete bots annoys me and i go and a frenzy trying to complete them. 1 Octane turned out to have very little chrome wear as you can see!

Octanes

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j50/primatives/DSC_0003.jpg

Hardly any chrome wear

This guy is in really good condition I bought him only with his chrome cover along with another TF. I have compared this with my 2 other Octanes to make sure he is not a knock off and it is identical in every way to the other 2 only thing is that is has 2L and 2R on the rudder instead of 1L and 1R. Also the metal on it is tarnished so I'm hoping that its also a sign that it is legit.

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j50/primatives/DSC_0004.jpg

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j50/primatives/DSC_0017.jpg

Clones

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j50/primatives/DSC_0005.jpg

After all this I'm happy Ive been table to complete these guys would have preferred to not have to go through it as it cost me a little more money even with the money that was paid back to me. but I did end up with one major good looking Octane and the Clones are in pristine condition too

1AZRAEL1
24th February 2011, 04:54 PM
If you don't want the spare clones... :D

Good to see that you ended up getting some after all the trouble you went through.

primatives
24th February 2011, 05:09 PM
If you don't want the spare clones... :D

Good to see that you ended up getting some after all the trouble you went through.


im thinking aobut it will let u know :)

UltraMarginal
24th February 2011, 05:51 PM
Wow, glad that finally worked out for you, thanks for the follow up info.
You'll have to let us know if you plan on selling any of it on, I too would be interested in your spares.

Hursticon
24th February 2011, 09:05 PM
Very glad to see and hear that you've been able to rectify the issue and obtain some very pristine examples of those who were 'taken' from you. ;):)
Those are some lovely looking figures dude, well done. :D