MP Rodimus Convoy issues

[FFN]

I'm not getting this, but I just thought I would give a heads up about some issues the toy has:

1. Hands are mis-assembled, making it difficult for him to hold his guns. It seems the palm piece is reversed.

http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/2821/4659.th.jpg (http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/2821/4659.jpg)

2. When putting Hot Rod into the Rodimus trailer, there is a chance the trailer will scrape yellow paint off Hot Rod's spoiler.

Overall, reviews and comments I have read suggest that Rodimus is complicated and fiddly.

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-feedback/363049-masterpiece-rodimus-prime-rodimus-convoy.html


Good luck!

[KillinSpoon]

I just emailed RK asking them to cancel my order and refund me.
After reading TFW I don't want to spend all that money on what is a piece of crap.
It seems these problems are on all the figures on TFW.

[FFN]

Well, I wouldn't say he's a bad toy (though one dude's Rodimus' right forearm half broke off), just that he needs kid gloves more so than previous MPs. Looks fantastic in vehicle mode, at least.

[1AZRAEL1]

I read through most of it, and some of the issues seem to be them not lining up the panels properly when they transform it. There are a few QC issues, but I think they are over-exagerating the problems a bit.

[griffin]

Sounds the same as Megatron and Starscream - complicated and fragile, but it didn't stop everyone from buying them. I feel that this is a 'Masterpiece' line for a reason - complex and expensive... and worth it once you get it.

(moved topic to news section)

[kurdt_the_goat]

Mine has no QC issues (unless you count the tight squeeze on the spoiler, which is either a design issue or paint that is too thick). I'll have to check my hands later, but as is they hold the gun quite securely unless you close his grip too much, it will push the gun out... not a big deal imo. Be prepared with lots of patience for lining him up during transform though!

[FFN]

*So far* it seems a small handful of Japanese fans on Amazon.co.jp aren't happy with Rodimus either, judging by the low scores it's getting.


Mine has no QC issues (unless you count the tight squeeze on the spoiler, which is either a design issue or paint that is too thick). The hands don't appear misassembled to me either, they hold the gun quite securely - their design however means that if you close his grip too much, it will push the gun out. Be prepared with lots of patience for lining him up during transform though! I believe that is the problem with the hands that people are talking about.

[kurdt_the_goat]

Yeah i edited above, on second look at the diagram it does look like that might fix it. I don't recall seeing another pin slot (it looks like it moves down the hand a bit closer to the fingers?) Will have a look tonight.

The reviews on amazon are basically just mirroring the TFW thread, lots of people seemingly unaware that you have to pay attention during transformation. Overall, i think it's fantastic - looks awesome, poses incredibly well.

[bruticus]

Yeah i edited above, on second look at the diagram it does look like that might fix it. I don't recall seeing another pin slot (it looks like it moves down the hand a bit closer to the fingers?) Will have a look tonight.

The reviews on amazon are basically just mirroring the TFW thread, lots of people seemingly unaware that you have to pay attention during transformation. Overall, i think it's fantastic - looks awesome, poses incredibly well.

can someone please translate the japanese text in FFN's diagram for me?

in step 2, it looks like you have to 'cut' the piece out which cant be right?
is there another pin slot?

otherwise, im just gonna have to wait until mine arrives.

[Draksprime]

Had a nice box waiting for me when i got home ;) I can confirm that it is a pain to transform and care needs to be taken. It does roll and the hands fit nicely into the side. You need to make sure the feet are in the correct position.

Overall its a awesome figure, I like how its got all these extra gizmos to play with and its does look the part next to optimus.

[primetime]

What's interesting also about MP Rodimus is that he basically drives the "wrong way" around in Trailer mode - ie. he goes in back to front and there's a "secondary" cockpit that swings out from his trailer on top of the car itself.

It's too bad that they can't just make the car reverse into the trailer itself as you'd think it would (as I did when I watched the cartoons), as it would probably simplify transformation a lot.

Otherwise the trailer itself is almost a copy of the G1 toy trailer - almost no difference except for the handles, the fold in/out radars and the placement of Rodimus' guns inside/on the trailer and on the dual cannons itself.

I'm surprised by the negative reaction to this MP - I'll soon be receiving mine, although many has compared it to MP Megatron / Starscream, I honestly never had much problem with either Masterpieces and touch wood this will be the same - as always take care when transforming and read and re-read the instructions.

[Robzy]

Man - that sux! Might wait to see the wash up before I place my order! :(

[kurdt_the_goat]

can someone please translate the japanese text in FFN's diagram for me?

in step 2, it looks like you have to 'cut' the piece out which cant be right?
is there another pin slot.

I can confirm the pic is definitely describing a mod rather than a misassembly - involving a cut and drilling. IMO the hands are too small a piece to risk doing it.

[kup]

Mine has shipped. This thread has been helpful on what to be careful with when I transform the figure. I will post any flaws or defects that I find once I have a go at transforming the figure.

So far a lot of the problems seem to be people thrown of by the complexity of the toy but issues such as scraping paint when combining the toy with the trailer and the badly designed hands are somewhat worrying but we shall see.

[Tober]

I'm still looking forward to it. :)

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/Optimus_Rodimus_01_Small.jpg

Image by 'Keev'e from SGcollect.com forums

[Draksprime]

I think there should be warning put up, dont stick Rodimus into the trailer the yellow paint comes off. Put a review on youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEGv5pmg_yk

[Tober]

It's rather infuriating alright.:mad:

Very elaborate, yes, but requires allot of patience.

[kup]

I think there should be warning put up, dont stick Rodimus into the trailer the yellow paint comes off. Put a review on youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEGv5pmg_yk

I don't like how the trailer has most of the cab stored as a shell folded under it. It's really cheaty, especially when it would have been more satisfactory (to me) if the 'cab' was just the car mode front sticking out of the trailer like Protector does.

It makes it seem as if the toy was engineered to just transform into the Hotrod car mode and the trailer was just an after thought.

[Lord_Zed]

I don't like how the trailer has most of the cab stored as a shell folded under it. It's really cheaty, especially when it would have been more satisfactory (to me) if the 'cab' was just the car mode front sticking out of the trailer like Protector does.

It makes it seem as if the toy was engineered to just transform into the Hotrod car mode and the trailer was just an after thought.

Given how cheap the original transformation of Rodimus was that kind of fits.

A Protector style transformation would be nice, but in order to make it G1 accurate they'd still have to fake things as unlike Protector Rodimus car cab has different proportions to his Hot Rod car mode.

[Hereticpoo]

I only ordered mine yesterday and I'm really looking forward to this guy.
All i wanna know is does sports car mode fit in Masterpiece Convoy's Trailer?
That would be cool :cool:

[kurdt_the_goat]

The Rodimus Prime modes are really just a little bonus, more like a gimmick than anything else i think.
It's really a perfect Hot Rod toy first and foremost.

As Lord_Zed said, having the shell underneath allows the frontend to be more accurate.
The trailer definitely isn't an afterthought though, very nicely done, extremely solid in all its joints.
It looks as dorky as ever when closed but as a battle station it is an awesome display piece!

[5FDP]

It makes it seem as if the toy was engineered to just transform into the Hotrod car mode and the trailer was just an after thought.

Which is why I don't mind waiting for the Hasbro release. Hopefully some of the QC issues will be ironed-out by then.

[rampagesss]

Just took mine out the box and yeah the hands are crap, just will not hold a gun properly. So have used blue-tack and they stay in there fine.

Also he doesn't fit in properly with other MP's
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t152/Rampage_017/100_3515.jpg

He way smaller then Prime and about the same size as Grimlock in dino mode. But all thing considered hes awesome looking as Hot Rod :D

[primatives]

so for those who have recieved him is it worth $200????? Does he have any diecast? I want him but kind of pricey for me atm.

[loophole]

anyone else having trouble getting his legs in for car mode, its starting to become a little frustrating

he has die cast feet, if its worth it im still working that one out

[primetime]

OK, I just got MP Rodimus today and yes the fears allayed so far by members from various TF forums are not simply scare-mongering.

There are serious QC issues with this toy, one of the leg panels on mine popped off just like on the TFW2005 (plastic easily stripped at the rotating joint) - one of the other leg panels would not latch on, and yes the guns won't fit with the fists fully closed.

You'd just have to clip the guns on to the hands and leave it be - they'll stay on so long as they're not bumped too hard.

So Rodimus car mode has some seams / joints thare not tightly closed but that's this toy - with bad QC fit and finish will definitely suffer.

Those of you with spoiler rubbing problems did you remember to push the spoiler back BEFORE putting it into the cab - I did this and I didn't experience any red paint rubbing ....

[primetime]

anyone else having trouble getting his legs in for car mode, its starting to become a little frustrating

he has die cast feet, if its worth it im still working that one out

Be EXTREMELY careful when bending his legs into place (90 degree angles) - some of the joints are extremely tight and you need to support where the joints are when bending the legs.

The diecast legs are another pain - there are many joints in there which you need to be careful especially when you are bending the feet itself.

On mine I had to loosen one of the screws on the feet so that the feet itself will bend (the ratcheting mechanism was locked in place due to overly tight screws!)

[loophole]

i got it eventually, thankfully my Rodimus doesnt seem to have any QC issues

[canofwhoopass_87]

Heh everyone's so caught up in the MP Rodimus storm that they've all forgotten about poor mr MP movie Bumblebee. Though he wasn't very exciting to begin with..


Which is why I don't mind waiting for the Hasbro release. Hopefully some of the QC issues will be ironed-out by then.

I'm with ya here brother! I do prefer the Japanese MP packaging, but I can't justify spending $200-$250 for a problem plagued MP. Will wait for this to (hopefully) hit local stores sometime soon.

[primetime]

Heh everyone's so caught up in the MP Rodimus storm that they've all forgotten about poor mr MP movie Bumblebee. Though he wasn't very exciting to begin with.. :D

As flawed as MP Roddy is - I like him even more now - I managed to pose him in quite well with his gun in Rodimus mode!

[Adzma]

so for those who have recieved him is it worth $200????? Does he have any diecast? I want him but kind of pricey for me atm.
Nope, not by my standards anyway. I don't seem to have the problems others are, I haven't tried holding the guns yet, might look into that.

My issues with him are that he looks and feels cheap. He does have diecast feet, but that's all. Grimlock was certainly worth his price tag, IMO anyway, because of the detailing on the figure. Hot Rod has next to no detailing. TakTom would probably say the trailer is a factor, which it certainly would be, but even so.

He's still good and I'm happy I bought him, but he's far too expensive for what you get.

[Eazy D]

I've had a play around with my MP9

Transformation is very fiddly but if you go slowly step by step throuigh the instructions he will end up in alt mode. At least on mine the panels line up quite well but the feet need to tucked up in exactly the right position to prevent the crotch plate from scraping the ground in car mode.

My biggest complaint is the paint scraping on the spoiler. I did all the right things when preparing the hot rod car mode for insertion into the trailer. I pushed the spoiler and back shell of the car as far forward as possible BEFORE insertion and angled the spoiler correctly but no matter what I did the paint still scrapes off. The hot rod car is also a very tight fit in the trailer. Admittedly the combined rodimus prime alt mode looks really good and is very solid but the paint scraping virtually precludes putting him in that mode too often.

I wonder if any modders have tried coating the spoiler with some clear nail varnish to protect the paint?

Overally I love the aesthetics of the toy and the engineering is fabulous but the execution is too fiddly and tolerances too tight. A lovely display piece but like MP Megs he is too fiddly to enjoy transforming him too often.

[1AZRAEL1]

I wonder if any modders have tried coating the spoiler with some clear nail varnish to protect the paint?

As I saw on TFW, I don't think that would work. As the space is already really tight, putting an extra coat would just make it worse.

What I have seen one guy do, he used a small fine metal file to edge away some of the plastic where the spoiler goes into. Do it at your own discrection, but I will be doing it on mine if I ever get one.

[kup]

Please note that out of the package the fingers are indeed mis assembled as shown in that diagram. I corrected mine and although it is still a poor design, my figure is now able to hold his rifles with his hands closed.

[kurdt_the_goat]

Translation on that pic says to cut it though... did you do any of that? Would appreciate some pics/your own guide if you get a chance.

[kup]

No, I didn't cut anything, it was just turning a piece around so there is no modification whatsoever to any part. I will write up a guide when I get a chance, in the mean time I am just exploring the figure's engineering.

[kup]

Note: It is possible to have all 4 wheels rolling in vehicle mode but every single piece needs to be aligned properly and there is only like 1mm clearance from the waist piece. Only roll him in a flat surface.

[kurdt_the_goat]

No, I didn't cut anything, it was just turning a piece around so there is no modification whatsoever to any part. I will write up a guide when I get a chance, in the mean time I am just exploring the figure's engineering.

Looking forward to it!

I find the wheel alignment mostly hinges on the central rotating joint (torso rotation in robot mode). If you have the car half-transformed you can fine tune this part to get it rolling nicely. It's surprising they didn't change the design of the crotch plate though - just a bit less bend at the bottom half and it would have had more clearance.

I also think the hands could have been done better. If you transform as per the instructions, the hands push against the ankle hinge in car mode, making it difficult to push the forearms into the tabs underneath the windscreen.

If they'd have removed the long connection point for the solder/blade attachments, and just incorporated that into a detachable piece (which they already are), you could just rotate the hands into the cavity and have no clearance issues at all.

The hands though *are* detachable (probably on purpose, for this exact reason) - if you want an easier transform you can just pop them off and you will have no problem clipping the forearms into place.

[kup]

I have just transformed it in all modes.

This figure has very, very clumsy engineering with a lot of unnecessary complexity that is frankly not needed. It's as if someone was pushing for added complexity in the design without any thought to practicality.

A lot of the problems are due to this very poor engineering, even if you align everything perfectly there are still issues like clips refusing to stay in place and parts becoming disjointed too easily due to pressure which the plastic is unable to sustain.

Why they didn't pick up all this in the prototype stage is beyond me :confused: - This figure should not have come out like this, most of the flaws are in it's design and could have been rectified by studying the prototype.

:rolleyes:

[kaiden]

i couldnt get the trailer mode to work. even though i got the spoiler to fit in snugly, the damn rest of the car wouldnt line up correctly.

i've basically just put away the trailer and left him posing in hot rod mode with the blue binoculars down

[kup]

Regarding the possible scratching of the spoiler when combining - It seems that you are meant to slide the spoiler in while both halves are 'squeezed' together as shown for Rodimus mode. It seems to go in much smoother that way and I have done several tries with no scratches.

[kurdt_the_goat]

Why they didn't pick up all this in the prototype stage is beyond me :confused: - This figure should not have come out like this, most of the flaws are in it's design and could have been rectified by studying the prototype.

:rolleyes:

It makes me think it really is just the one guy (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Hironori_Kobayashi) at TakaraTomy who does these, because you're right, a second opinion ought to have picked up on the transformation faults right away. Instead it's like he was not prepared to compromise on the look of any of the modes in even the slightest manner. Personally i wouldn't have minded a bigger hinge here or a thicker piece of plastic there, to bolster connection points where needed!

[Hursticon]

For those interested, Peaugh (http://www.youtube.com/user/peaugh) has just posted a video review (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_ZfoYB699w) of MP-09 along with some hints and suggestions with regards to the Spoiler. :)

[kaiden]

2011's most disappointing toy!

[griffin]

And this was supposed to be the best toy of the year... I'm disappointed just from hearing all these comments.
(I'll still get it though)

[kurdt_the_goat]

Judging by what's been announced so far for this year it'd win best toy by default :D
It really is worthwhile despite the faults; Peaugh's review is nice and level headed.

[kaiden]

well after experiencing the toy myself, i can understand why hasbro announced they would release it without the trailer. cause it sucks! lol. i actually prefer the FP Protector Trailer, but i love posing MP Hot Rod :rolleyes:

[kup]

The toy does look good on all modes so it's not as if he is a sore view. The engineering is really clumsy but that only comes into effect during transformation and play. As a display piece he is still fantastic although the odd ratcheting joints they chose for the feet do make him hard to display in a stable pose.

[kaiden]

The toy does look good on all modes so it's not as if he is a sore view. The engineering is really clumsy but that only comes into effect during transformation and play. As a display piece he is still fantastic although the odd ratcheting joints they chose for the feet do make him hard to display in a stable pose.

yeah its great as a display piece (if you can properly display it in all modes) - but its first a toy and with that kind of engineering its not as playable as i would have wanted. I own Optimus, Grimlock and Starscream and the first 2 are really great to play with easily posed.

but for a $200 toy, i'd like to be able to pick him up maybe once a day, and transform him to one of his modes each time but i can't even do that with the trailer mode problem.

[kup]

For those interested, Peaugh (http://www.youtube.com/user/peaugh) has just posted a video review (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_ZfoYB699w) of MP-09 along with some hints and suggestions with regards to the Spoiler. :)

I am not a fan or Peaugh's reviews. He often gushes and glosses over the flaws of the figures he reviews. Optibotimus is much more objective, specially when it comes to MP Rodimus but even so, at least Peaugh seems more reserved when it comes to this figure.

[Hursticon]

I am not a fan or Peaugh's reviews. He often gushes and glosses over the flaws of the figures he reviews. Optibotimus is much more objective, specially when it comes to MP Rodimus but even so, at least Peaugh seems more reserved when it comes to this figure.

See, where as I find the the opposite. :confused::p
I think I tend to gravitate towards Peaugh more because I statrted watching his reviews first, whereas I prefer Vangelus and Thew's reviews because of the entertainment factor - But indeed, Peaugh definitely does seem more 'matter of fact' with this video review in particular. ;):)

[Gutsman Heavy]

Meh, I'll wait for the hasbrah one.

[canofwhoopass_87]

well after experiencing the toy myself, i can understand why hasbro announced they would release it without the trailer. cause it sucks! lol. i actually prefer the FP Protector Trailer, but i love posing MP Hot Rod :rolleyes:

Noooo! If there's no trailer I'm gona stick with the Jap release.

[kup]

The trailer is actually the most focused part of the toy! Despite it's simplicity (G1) it's effective and the little touches like the gun attachment and weapons storage was very thoughtful.

It's no G3 or Protector trailer but it's not supposed to be, it's just representing the G1 trailer in an upscale MP design.

[canofwhoopass_87]

Yeh IMO it would be terribly disappointing to see the trailer go in the Hasbro release.

What's intriguing is that a lot of the negative feedback is related to the trailer; that the $200 pricetag isn't justifiable for a problem plagued "Masterpiece"...but then again isn't MP9 essentially two MP's in one?

I suppose it might be best to wait for the Hasbro version and compare the two. Still getting the Jap one though. Rodddddy!

[SharkyMcShark]

but then again isn't MP9 essentially two MP's in one?

No not really.

[Adzma]

No not really.
Yeah this. The differences between Hot Rod and Rodimus are so minor that unless you know what to look for you wouldn't be able to pick them up unless you studied them side by side.

[kaiden]

...but then again isn't MP9 essentially two MP's in one?

basically, you switch his face, and lower his leg-hip joints to make him taller. its basically crap.

Rodimus' alt mode is Hot Rod backwards with a 'shell' attachment (stored beneath the trailer) which fits over his legs/rear.

[kurdt_the_goat]

I'm not sure what people were after with the Rodimus Prime robot transformation? The difference is negligible yeah, but what did you want them to do, make his legs so long that he'd be totally out of proportion?

http://i54.tinypic.com/5mcupc.gif

[kup]

Although the differences between the Rodimus and Hotrod modes are minimal, I believe it to be effective and nifty enough despite it's simplicity. It's one of the more effective features of the figure and given the rest of the design, that's appreciated.

[Jay-Tron]

What a shame, Hot Rod-Rodimus could have been better judging by what I've heard here. I think he could have been made bulker to look good next to Prime and Grimlock but oh well. I think as Hot Rod he look ok and car mode is awesome so I'll continue to watch and see how this turns out. I may pick him up if I find a cheap one in the future when I've got the money for it.

[ITZTRU]

I never really considered rodimus to be a bulky kinda guy anyway though?

[kup]

Clearly the whole goal here was to make a figure that was uncompromisingly accurate to the cartoon character model in all modes. Unfortunately design practicality in accomplishing this seems to have fallen to the side as a priority. It also almost seems as if the designer picked up the project very enthusiastically at first but then got bored near the end of the project and just finished it off with whatever. I say this because the overall concept and even the core design of the figure is sound but what kills are all the little design flaws that should have been ironed out during the prototype stage such as making joints stronger, practical hands and reinforcement of pegs which require pressure or are integral to the stability of the figure.

The back clip that secures the back pack along with the double clip that secures the chest are pathetically bad, you can see how easily that could have been rectified without blowing the budget but it seems that they just left it as such. Another crap flaw is how that bit of extended plastic on the waist piece which really adds very little to the 'accuracy' of the robot mode but seriously hinders the car mode due to the low clearance which wasn't addressed in the prototype stage.

MP Rodimus in my opinion is the worse MP yet. Unlike Greenscream in which most of the decisions were 'artistic' choices by the designer and not flaws as such or MP Megatron which has very sound engineering although it's just a bit too complex for play but still stable in all modes.

The above two MPs had a lot of issues which annoyed fans but most of them were due to engineering or artistic choices not due to sloppy and lazy design which MP Rodimus is plagued with.

[optimus1]

Sounds like there really are quite a number of flaws to an otherwise great looking figure :(

Hopefully Hasbro's version can tweak a few of them. Rodimus Prime's trailer is not as appealing as Optimus' one.

Hasbro is still bringing it out right??:confused:

I prefer Hot Rod over Rodimus anyday :p

[kup]

Sounds like there really are quite a number of flaws to an otherwise great looking figure :(

Hopefully Hasbro's version can tweak a few of them. Rodimus Prime's trailer is not as appealing as Optimus' one.

Hasbro is still bringing it out right??:confused:

I prefer Hot Rod over Rodimus anyday :p

Hasbro will bring it out but it will not have a trailer although it will come with a Firebolt targetmaster.

I am a bit skeptical that Hasbro would do anything to fix the flaws, a lot of the joints require a fair bit of redesigning which is something that Hasbro is very unlikely to do.

I am sure that you will get a toy that is essentially the same as this one give or take some color choices. The QC here is not a factor since the flaws are not due to Quality Control but shoddy design.

[optimus1]

Hasbro will bring it out but it will not have a trailer although it will come with a Firebolt targetmaster.

I am a bit skeptical that Hasbro would do anything to fix the flaws, a lot of the joints require a fair bit of redesigning which is something that Hasbro is very unlikely to do.

I am sure that you will get a toy that is essentially the same as this one give or take some color choices. The QC here is not a factor since the flaws are not due to Quality Control but shoddy design.

Flaws that bad aye? :eek:
Might have to treat him like MP Acid Storm aka MP-3 Starscream.

Still Firebolt is not bad, hopefully though Hasbro Aus get some down here, with local retailers selling at a reasonable price.

[Hursticon]

Still Firebolt is not bad, hopefully though Hasbro Aus get some down here, with local retailers selling at a reasonable price.

I agree dude but, "That'll be the day". :o

[kup]

I agree dude but, "That'll be the day". :o

I am pretty sure that they would be released here but the price is another matter. There is a good chance that it'll be a TrU exclusive or some crud so the price may be so ridiculous that one may as well import it in for better value.

[Hursticon]

I am pretty sure that they would be released here but the price is another matter. There is a good chance that it'll be a TrU exclusive or some crud so the price may be so ridiculous that one may as well import it in for better value.

Yeah, it was the price aspect that I was referring to, I'm sure they'll bring out the U.S. release here at some point. :)

[sifun]

my gripes:

1. Very plastic. Not much diecast at all.
2. Plastic feels cheap, but at least its not hasbro grey.
3. Mine has excess glue that went on one of the shoulders
4. Paint not very clean on wing (haven't even put the trailer on!)
5. Price point not worth what you get honestly.
6. Not in scale with the others
7. Do not like how it is very matte since the plastic isn't painted.

[5FDP]

my gripes:

1. Very plastic. Not much diecast at all.
2. Plastic feels cheap, but at least its not hasbro grey.
3. Mine has excess glue that went on one of the shoulders
4. Paint not very clean on wing (haven't even put the trailer on!)
5. Price point not worth what you get honestly.
6. Not in scale with the others
7. Do not like how it is very matte since the plastic isn't painted.

On the up-side, at least he won't suffer from cosmic rust like MP Megatron :p

[kup]

Translation on that pic says to cut it though... did you do any of that? Would appreciate some pics/your own guide if you get a chance.

I have made a guide in the repair thread. I hope it helps.

http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?p=221121#post221121

[5FDP]

I have made a guide in the repair thread. I hope it helps.

http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?p=221121#post221121

It certainly has helped kup. Now I know I won't be getting him. You've helped save me some money :)

[k.wong23]

hey guys, got my rodimus from RK...the paint job on the spoiler absolutely sucks!!!

Check out the attachment!

Should I contact RK and complain?

This is stock out of the box.:mad:

[jaydisc]

Ouch. Mine had some blemishes, but much to my surprise, they rubbed off. Doesn't look to be the case with yours. Good luck if you do try to get a swap from RK. Suspect you'll have to go to PayPal dispute before you get any resolve.

[Lord_Zed]

Yeah, there seems to be some particularly bad Rodimus out there, So far I haven't found any big blemishes on mine (though I've yet to attach the trailer), in fact the paint job, paint aps and plastic (I prefer the matte look to the more glossy toy look) are all pretty well done in my mind.

So far I've found the toy to look pretty fantastic, my issues are as has been mentioned here already with the design, or rather the fact that he can't lock together properly in bot mode, and it doesn't seem like it would have been that hard for the designers to fix either. The groin piece sticking out at the botom in vheicle mode is a pain in the but too.

Anyway I haven't had this toy for a week so not sure waht my ultimate opion of him will be. There seem to be an awfull lot of things done right, and then perhaps an equal amount of things done wrong.

[Tober]

Good luck if you do try to get a swap from RK. Suspect you'll have to go to PayPal dispute before you get any resolve.

I have a problem with the spring in the foot having come unwound (stopping standing or proper transformation). I contacted RK (info @ robotkingdom.com, CC: sale @ robotkingdom.com) about it last week and no reply yet. Should I just start a PP dispute for a faulty product and see how it goes?

[kurdt_the_goat]

A few people on TFW forums (http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-feedback/363049-masterpiece-rodimus-prime-rodimus-convoy-105.html) have managed to fix that issue through various means if you're willing to give it a shot, seems simple enough. Have a scroll back a few pages in that link. Seems you can use tape or file the sharp edge or bend the tip of the spring to stop it from catching.

[VERT]

My Rodimus arrived in perfect shape. Have not put him down transformed him again and again and no issues :D

I must be lucky. :D

[jaydisc]

I have a problem with the spring in the foot having come unwound (stopping standing or proper transformation). I contacted RK (info @ robotkingdom.com, CC: sale @ robotkingdom.com) about it last week and no reply yet. Should I just start a PP dispute for a faulty product and see how it goes?

I can't answer that. I've never had to complain to RK about anything except them shipping the wrong product.

I remember when the re-released MP Magnus shipped and Adzma got one, which had atrocious paint applications, he complained, and like you (and everyone else with similar complaints) was ignored. He filed a dispute, and RK came rushing to the table. You're probably better off either PMing him, or finding the thread with him discussing it here for a more accurate representation.

I know Griff complained about defective Alternity Seekers, but I don't ever remember a result, so ask him too.

[Tober]

Thanks Kurdt and Jay. :)

I'd rather have the foot or toy replaced than have to 'operate' myself. Depends what RK have to say.

[k.wong23]

Thanks for the response all; will shoot an email to RK; if not then raise a paypal dispute.

Might not be worth all the effort!

[griffin]

They never replaced or responded to my several emails (with photographic proof) about a faulty Alternity Skywarp. The employee Po confirmed that the boss received the emails though, but he never responded.

[Tober]

Thanks Griffin. :)

Is it worth complaining to Po? Or should I just start a PayPal dispute?

I sent a photo in the email as well:

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/th_MP-9_foot.jpg (http://s273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/AUST_Tober/?action=view&current=MP-9_foot.jpg)

[jaydisc]

Paypal would advise that you try contacting the vendor yourself first. If you cannot get resolve, then dispute.

[griffin]

Yeah, always best to give them a chance first, then do the paypal dispute if you don't get anywhere.

[Tober]

Yep, but I did try to contact them (info @ robotkingdom.com, CC: sale @ robotkingdom.com) about it last week and still no reply. Should I be spamming them with this or threatening them with the PayPal dispute?

Dammit, if this was HLJ at least they would have given me an answer by now. :(

[jaydisc]

Po = sale ~o~ robotkingdom.com
Ray = workshop ~o~ robotkingdom.com

[kaiden]

I've mentioned this before but here's a reminder - a paypal dispute doesnt work on non-ebay transactions.

paypal will do nothing to help you when you buy outside of ebay. simple as that. this is my #1 hated fact about paypal.

[jaydisc]

1. I disagree
2. Even if they didn't, as long as you funded it via your credit card, you can dispute it through the credit card provider, which will trigger a PayPal dispute.

[Gouki]

I've mentioned this before but here's a reminder - a paypal dispute doesnt work on non-ebay transactions.

paypal will do nothing to help you when you buy outside of ebay. simple as that. this is my #1 hated fact about paypal.

Wrong. I started a dispute because I had a mysterious, false transaction appear on my Paypal account. To this day I still don't know what it was for or where it came from, but it wasn't eBay.

[k.wong23]

Got a reply from Ray saying he will forward to his boss, guess I will play the waiting game now?

[Eazy D]

I don't mean to spread panic but everyone needs to examine the ankle joints on their MP9s. Thje metallic spring in the ankle joint has been unwinding on lots of toys. If it pops out below the foot then you are royally screwed. Have a look at these links from TFW. Its a fairly common problem and apparently with time and multiple transformations it will affect your MP9. Its happened to Tober and its happened to me as well. There is apparently a fix as indicated in the links that involves opening up the joint and re-winding the spring. I plan to try this operation myself in the next couple of days. If I can pull it off I'll post my comments on it.

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-toy-discussion/366887-mp-09-rodimus-convoy-fixes.html
http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-feedback/363049-masterpiece-rodimus-prime-rodimus-convoy-104.html

Edit - links fixed

[VERT]

Its happened once to my ones left foot. I put it back in and has been fine. I have been thinking of getting a new softer spring in or just removing it and tightening the joint.

[kup]

Boy, this figure has been nothing less than issue after issue. It is technically a good toy with a solid engineering concept but it seriously seems as if they didn't bother to test the prototype at all before mass producing it.

Edit: BTW your links are not working

[Borgeman]

well, looks like i got the very short end of the stick on this toy :/

asside from the very weak back and chest connections, which seem bad on alot of people's toys, the grey shin/calf cover on the right foot (the non hinged piece) is already stuffed. the moment i put my hand on it to transform it, it just fell off:


http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x24/borgeman/SANY0286.jpg
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x24/borgeman/SANY0285.jpg
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x24/borgeman/SANY0284.jpg

i have no idea what to do....

George

[kup]

well, looks like i got the very short end of the stick on this toy :/

asside from the very weak back and chest connections, which seem bad on alot of people's toys, the grey shin/calf cover on the right foot (the non hinged piece) is already stuffed. the moment i put my hand on it to transform it, it just fell off:

i have no idea what to do....

George

Since this is a very common problem with this toy (among others), I made a tutorial on how to fix it some weeks ago:

http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?t=10106

Unfortunately we all got the short end of the stick when purchasing this figure since the flaws are not in it's QC but sloppy design.

[Borgeman]

thanks kup *hi 5*

[kup]

thanks kup *hi 5*

*hi 5s back*