More G1 KO Cassettes including the Japanese Dinos?!

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Originally Posted by Hursticon

Hit up HD for an answer to that man, he's one of the members who've most recently bought the 4 of them that I know of. :o

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I can give that answer over PM :D

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Originally Posted by valkyrie_76

Interesting......time to tease a certain member about this :D

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who?

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Originally Posted by valkyrie_76

That is probably the only way Ill get a set of Dinocassettes....unless someone wants to be nice to me.

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who again? :D

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Originally Posted by liegeprime

Just these 2 so far, they have the other two on the works still I suppose, as that was apparently what the creators have planned...

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I going to speak slightly in code here, but I think the "other 2" may take some time before they see a release. Some KO company has indirectly approached someone who owns the originals and asked for certain things re the other 2 - they don't have all it takes to make the release. They have been turned down by the person of course. So until they find someone else with the originals willing to provide what they need, the "other 2" may take some time to see the light of day.

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Originally Posted by kup

Do what I did. When there were hints of an imminent KO release, I used to rush and buy the real one before it happened.

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Agree that's the best plan!

It might take even longer thanks to a certain phone call last night ;)

Just found this listing on eBay UK guys, so be aware that it would seem that some sellers are willing to be as dubious as to only mention their 'reissue' nature in the listing's description and not in the listing's heading/title. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Hursticon

Just found this listing on eBay UK guys, so be aware that it would seem that some sellers are willing to be as dubious as to only mention their 'reissue' nature in the listing's description and not in the listing's heading/title. :rolleyes:

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This was always going to happen, despite the claims of others across in multiple forums. I've reported the item. I hope others do the same.

I broke down and ordered a set of the cassettes, and they arrived this week.
All safe and sound, by the way, from a certain retailer.

But my post is not to review their service and reliability, but the rather poor quality of the product. At first, I was just thrilled to finally have my very first piece of Japanese toy packaging, and planned to display them just behind my two dinos. I don't know how the originals were produced, but this is a single piece of cardboard folded to make a box, and then the "tab" part that sticks up from the square box is glued together. Extremely flimsily. to the point where the glue was peeling on one of them, and just looked so tacky.

I can't believe that anyone buying these toys will mistake them from the original. the cassettes themselves don't come with the stickers applied, and there is no sticker instruction sheet. My hands have microtremors, which makes applying ANY stickers a little difficult, but the complexity of these dinos and number of separate stickers made for a rather messy job. Many times I had to reapply, because there were no instructions on which stickers went where. I'm guessing the originals didn't have these problems, and came applied (just like the Encore cassettes).

The raptor cassette is just beautiful, and very impressive. He's my favourite of the bunch. The one that looks like a diplodocus (sp?) has serious quality contol problems. The head/neck just won't stay up. Even if you delicately pose it, within a few minutes it just droops again. I think this is the quality of the little metal screws/rivets/nuts, whatever they are called. I might have to try and pop them out and replace them, but with my hands it isn't an easy job
and I'm not mechanically minded to find the right one at a hardware store.

Your mileage may vary, but if all of these have the same quality problems, I can guarantee that if you buy one or both of these loose on ebay, you will be able to tell the genuine from the knock-off rather easily. Also, the sticker sheets just do NOT match the box art. I don't know whether the box art and photos never matched the deco of the originals, but you can also see that the colour of these characters is quite off compared to the actual toy as well.

Hopefully some of you may find this information useful. I don't want to "knock" the knock-off - its rather affordable for collectors compared to the original, but I'd bin mine in a heartbeat if reissued in encore. It just isn't very well executed. I certainly wouldn't recommend it to anyone, unless you're good with making modifications to robots for loose joints.

KOToys = closing down.

Good riddance to bad rubbish.

At the risk of turning myself into a pariah in the fandom again, I have a confession to make. After I got banned from KO Toys' forums for voicing concerns over there being no intentionally built in differences between the KO Dino cassettes they were making and the genuine article, I did an IP check and found out their website was hosted in the US. About a week and a half ago, I used the international minutes on my mobile to report them the Hasbro, including giving them their IP address, and website address. Looks like they acted pretty swiftly on this one.

Some people might hate me for this, but I'm proud of what I did and I'd do it again. Contrary to their claims, KO Toys were giving scammers cart blanche to pass off fakes as genuine G1 Toys, which has even proven true in at least one eBay auction for the Dino Cassettes.

HasTak certainly need to get better with their reissues, and there's certainly a market for access to these molds. However if someone is genuinely about "filling gaps" then this needs to be done in such a way that scammers can't rip people off in the process.

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Originally Posted by Cat

KOToys = closing down.

Good riddance to bad rubbish.

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It is?

Damn Ill have to make an order soon for some kitbashing. Rather use the KO stuff than the original stuff.

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Originally Posted by Cat

KOToys = closing down.

Good riddance to bad rubbish.

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I honestly would have to agree here. :cool:

Whilst it is obvious that KOToys isn't necessarily creating all of their KO items, what is more obvious is the rather cost effective long term strategy Has/Tak is employing in the combat against infringements against their Intellectual Property. ;)
Good on 'em, eventually if they cut off enough Limbs then there wont be anything to feed the Head. :)

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Originally Posted by bowspearer

At the risk of turning myself into a pariah in the fandom again, I have a confession to make. After I got banned from KO Toys' forums for voicing concerns over there being no intentionally built in differences between the KO Dino cassettes they were making and the genuine article, I did an IP check and found out their website was hosted in the US. About a week and a half ago, I used the international minutes on my mobile to report them the Hasbro, including giving them their IP address, hosting company (which is based in Michigan) and website address. Looks like they acted pretty swiftly on this one.

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What... so Hasbro are allowing KO Toys to keep their site live in order to flog-off the remainder of their stock out of sheer kindness :rolleyes: Hasbro have been aware of KO Toys and where they operate from for years.