That was abysmal, I should have gone to bed at half time.
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That was abysmal, I should have gone to bed at half time.
I don't see why Verbeek insists on his 4-5-1 no matter what. When Australia went down 2-0 he stuck with it, even though it was clear that Australia wasn't getting any traction with one up front. It's great if you're hoping to nick a 1-0, but once you're down, you need to be more aggresive if you want a result. He refused to gamble, instead just putting a midfielder up front on his own after half time and bringing the striker into midfield.
Granted, Australia deserved to lose, but Verbeek's ridiculous stubborn love for 4-5-1 only made things worse.
I'll be glad when Verbeek is gone, and Australia has someone at the helm who actually knows how to make the most of the talent at their disposal rather than sticking to a formula and trying to shoehorn the limited supply of players into that system.
This is for you Bobby:
QUEEEEEEEENNNSSSLAAANNNDDDEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!
Nothing much more to say but NSW were abysmal, it's what happens when you pick thugs instead of footballers (Gallen got off somehow, and no charge for the O'Donnell headbutt...what the hell?). Hayne showed he is nowhere near as talented as he thinks he is.
NSW have to drop about half the squad, and start fresh. Gidley as fullback, Pearce and Campese in the halves (or Walsh at 6, whoever they pick, they have to stick with), Farah at 9 and captain, Idris, Jennings and the Morris boys in the backs, and pick a tough young forward pack, Leahroyd-Lars, Thurling, Heighington etc with Luke Lewis as a super sub.
And Spain beaten by the swiss... Spain not looking so good now are they?
Gallen getting off was a no brainer.. it was a fairy tap that rolled off the shoulder...if myles wasnt already concussed from a previous hit from white he would of got up... if they were to punish gallen for it the head high tackle by inglis i think on hayne ten minutes earlier was twice as bad since it was direct contact and odonnell well... he should be sitting on the side lines.......not just for the headbutt (which if anything is similar to haynes "headshove" on slater previously) but for the spear tackle alone... that was nasty.Quote:
Originally Posted by i_amtrunks
then there was the elbows and forearms.. from both teams.. thurston kneeing the ball player when he was at marker... i remember greg bird got 10 weeks for that many a year ago.. thiaday lifting knees when charging the line...
yes nsw should drop half the squad but gidley included. id leave pearce there but bring in bird... farah cant defend for crap, but has a good kicking game which makes him better for attack... i would bring Tigers Chris Lawrence into the centre , he is a good line breaker and some speed. and jennings just for his speed
lewis wasnt here because of his suspension so i see him getting a recall.. and as much as he is a niggler the Blues need Gallen only because he consistantly gets 100+ meters gained he was the only forward for NSW to crack the 100 metre mark in O:II Hayne was the only other player..... For NSW Learoyd lars and brett white were the next closet in the 70 metre range..... Eniis racked up a huge 8 metres absolutly shocking for a hooker (Cam Smith ran 70)
but in saying that, doesnt matter how much they chop and change the squad... Queensland has to much clASSs... the core group of their squad has been consistant.. Smith Lockyer Slater Ingis Folau........ cant compete with the best in the business....
I already told you I was supporting Queensland this series:D. The current Queensland side would beat any international team IMO. I wouldn't worry about O'Donnell I think he'll get in strife. NSW needs to stick with it's players not chop and change them as soon as they lose. I was actually close with the score I picked a 40-0 scoreline. I knew QLD's backs would have a field day as Hayne is a lazy defender. My NSW side would be with everyoine 100% fitQuote:
Originally Posted by i_amtrunks
1. Dugan
2. B. Morris
3. Jennings
4. Lyon
5. Lawrence
6. Sutton
7. Gidley
13. Ryan
12. Hindmarsh (c) they need a workhorse to lead by example
11. Creagh
10. White
9. Farah
8. Galloway
Res
14. Lewis
15. Leahroyd- Lars
16. Snowden
17. Heighington
Oh, they looked good, but forgot to actually take the Swiss defence seriously. Basically they spent the first hour passing the ball around without really trying to test the Swiss defence - like that would be enough to eventually crack the Swiss and score. From memory I think the Spanish side, with something ridiculous like 75% possession, managed a single shot on goal in the first half hour.Quote:
Originally Posted by i_amtrunks
Of course, the Swiss were always going to focus on getting their defence set for this game... and were going to need more than pretty passing & possession to break them down. It looked good, but I found myself pretty bored after a while - and was glad when Switzerland took the lead.
Switzerland's goal was sloppy & oppurtunistic, but it shouldn't have taken that goal for the Spanish to actually try and test the Swiss defence. And of course once they had the goal, Switzerland were essentially playing a 10-0-0 formation (not that I blame them).
did anyone see brazils goal.... slotted nicley past the keeper with about half a metre of space......
great to watch..
Mmmm, so "we" won the origin again eh?
Yet another time when it makes the third match not worth following. This is getting pretty boring right now.
I'm a New South Welshman and even I knew QLD where gonna win, NSW have not had a good side in years.Quote:
Originally Posted by MV75
You're right though, the next game ain't worth watching. Unless you wanted to watch a whitewash :p
That was the best goal of the tournament so far. With the altitude and the new ball somehow I don't think a lot of goals are going to come from spot kicks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sharky
Much agreed, Spain easily bested the Swiss on the field but when they got within proximity of goal it was mostly a case of whoever having possession at the time (usually unsupported) taking a random potshot. There weren't many attempts at a coordinated 'play' at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by dirge
Or a good bit of biff:DQuote:
Originally Posted by 1AZRAEL1
I am hoping to make it the ANZ Stadium for the 3-0 and make the 5-in-a-Row even sweeter :D
And in World Cup news - I hope Pim Verbeek ends up letting our strikers play - as strikers not striker!
Not a bad side Bobby, but Gidley at 7? He struggles there for the Knights, but that maybe because of the terrible halves partners they have there. Bet they rue letting Smith get rid of Walsh, and keep Dureu instead...
NSW should be able to muster a team to compete with QLD, they are missing a dominant number 9 and number 6, but so will QLD when Lockyer retires. (Prince maybe?)
Nigeria vs. Greece game is getting more interesting by the second...
I heard the sydney herald have the headline "Australasia 1, Slovakia 1"
LOL ....... unbelievable.
No matter, weve got a small unknown team next umm ummm Italy is it? Never heard of them must be minows
While it doesn't make up for Australia's loss I'm happy for NZ. Really, I am. It's great for Football across the ditch - what's not to be happy about?Quote:
Originally Posted by Oldschool78
Heh. While as an Australian I do wish you guys well, as an Italian-Australian, I can't say I hope you replicate your fortune in the next game! Having said that, you didn't disgrace yourself last time around (as Australia did), and hopefully wont this time - a narrow loss to Italy bears no shame.Quote:
No matter, weve got a small unknown team next umm ummm Italy is it? Never heard of them must be minows
Wooooo!!!! Forza Italia!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by dirge
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Originally Posted by dirge
Man there has been quiet the celebration over here with that draw. If we managed to sneak a win.... not italy but the other one weve got. Holy Holy the party over here will be off the richter
Japan ultimately failed. First half was abysmal to watch, second half was much better. Got to respect the Dutch for not totally collapsing into a defensive game after going 1 up. It kept the match interesting to watch.
Australia
Cant pass
Cant control
Cant Mark
Cant shoot
Are too slow
they are un-prepared
i am not watching the next game.
I thought they did alright, especially after they were down to 10 men.
Australia were okay, but I cannot believe the Ghanians got away with that studs up tackle from behind.
Refs are at least being consistent, Kaka's second yellow card was disgustingly wrong, and the Brazilian's second goal included two intentional handballs.
And go the Kiwi's, they have half a chance to progress to the next stage, and good on them for it. They know their strengths and play to them, unlike us Aussies who hire coaches based on their names, rather than their fit for our team.
My favourite world cup related headline thus far comes from the NY Post after the USA v England game: "USA Wins 1-1". :p
What a friggin heart attack of a game yesterday by the Tigers. Good to see my man Fitzy score a try (what a cracker too) and good on Heighngton threatening the selectors. What is it with S.O.O selectors ignoring Wests Tigers?????
Serious question for all those soccer fans out there - why in the hell are they always taking dives and clutching their leg (as if it broke in 5 different places) instead of playing the game and being known for their skills with the ball?
I saw one highlight from the World Cup the other night and one guy went down like a sack of spuds. There wasn't even anyone remotely close to where he was :confused:
I know they're different sports, but I'd love to see one of these guys play a full contact sport like NRL or AFL. They wouldn't last two seconds.
It's for this very reason soccer doesn't interest me.
+1Quote:
Originally Posted by 5FDP
I dislike it because they act just as much as they play soccer (yes I call it soccer :p)
this annoys me aswell, i played the game for 18 odd years, at all sorts of levels and to watch the elite players diving to milk a penalty is such a disapointment... i can tell you tho if i hit a guy and he rolled around like that he wouldnt be bouncing up as soon as the whistle blew....Quote:
Originally Posted by 5FDP
its no wonder the game gets a reputation that it is played by a bunch of fairies...
AGREED, i couldnt believe how much milking the italians did, they came accross as pansies. I can see why they do it but F&%* sake, get up your dad is watchingQuote:
Originally Posted by Sharky
KOREA FAIL. Even a non-racist ref would not have saved you. They need to make it up to us by producing some more retro-toys :p
Uruguay deserved that win.
Maroonwash anyone? :p
That's what NSW get for picking Cronulla thugs (Gallen, Snowden, Bird) and scaredy cat Ennis, who likes to throw punches at unaware opponents then hide behind his team mates...
And in the round ball game, I'm surprised Spain are favourites, considering how little good football they have played, The Dutch deserved to win against the Uruguayans, but cant really see them beating Germany either.
ennis i will give you watmough is worse then gallen bird plays for the titans...... and snowden well compared to thiady thurston and shillington he is the pope....Quote:
Originally Posted by i_amtrunks
I had a laugh when Ennis hid behind Snowden was it after Shillington stood up Looked like a little school brat hiding behind his mums skirt:DQuote:
Originally Posted by i_amtrunks
Now Trunks of all people knows I'm orange in one eye and black in the other but I have to ask why do the NSW selectors (yes there were players from the Dragons and The Panthers) pick a host players from teams in the bottom half of the ladder and not one player was picked from the side coming third?!?!?!?! We are coming third for a reason.
Going to ignore the fact that Germany lost to Spain...
Bird was a Shark, and played under thug Stuart until he glassed his partner and tried to blame everyone else for it. Sharks players as a rule are good at thuggery and look where it has gotten them on the table.
As for not picking Tiger players, that is NSW loss (although I would have had Tuquiri in the QLD side ahead of Tonga). Lawrence should have been in the squad (as should have Idris), Heighington and Fulton would not have been out of place in the squad either, and I have always said Farah should have been there instead of grubby Ennis.
But really, shouldnt you be happy to have the strongest Tigers team available throughout the origin period? With all the other injuries you guys have you need all hands on deck now.
Ennis was outplayed by Gidley who really lifted NSW when he came on at Dummy half, shows you what having someone who is fast and willing to pass can do in that position. The media is calling for his head, but with the idiot selectors of NSW, I bet he gets picked next season
Overall NSW didnt play too badly, they need a better halves combo, and to get rid of some of their thugs (Gallen, Ennis, Watmough), and to stop rushing in from their edges, not sure they made the right centre-wing pairings, I would have paired Gordon and Jennings and kept throwing those two speedsters the ball.
Excellent, it is as I hoped - the World Cup will be won by a nation that has never won it this year.
Personally I hope that Holland wins it - most of the Spanish players annoy the living hell out of me, whereas only Van Bommel and Robben really get my goat from the Dutch.
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Originally Posted by i_amtrunks
thuggery smuggery
Bird was a shark what happened (Sacked) Latu (SACKED) Maiva (SACKED) Seymore (Sacked), where is inglis (STILL PLAYING at storm) stewart (Injured But still playing at manly) benji marshall (Still at tigers)... list can go on and on...sharks have always had a Zero Tolerance to that sort of stuff....so to say that sharks as a rule are known for thuggery is well just poor.... and saying that thuggery got sharks on the bottom of the table well everyone knows poor coaching and poor player retention and recruitment got us there that is the obvious one..
Ennis the menace.... i agree he should not of been there but then is farah really origin material either.. he does ok for the tigs, a good kicking game but he defends poorly most the time.. Luke Priddis has been on good form and would of been a good pick at hooker.... butterfingers beau scott......i agree Lawrence should have been there in his place, he is one of the better running centres in the game and Jennings didnt get involved or wasnt involved enough..... our halves well NSW has a poor pool to pick from... 5 and 6th string.... QLD has all the quality, pearce mortimer campese they really dont have anything compared to the playmaking class of thurston lockyear cronk smith and prince.... QLD are Miles infront in that department..... i did like how nsw went for some youth... they need to keep the faith in the selections now not chop and change again...
NSW get rid of gallen... nah they need him he runs more metres then the fullback tackles more then most your talking about a game that was built by thugss... and they need him he does what the others wont give the niggle back to the roaches... queensland give as good as they get but they sook more.....
NSW biggest problem is the coach... QLD have the perfect system a full time coach,he can watch/scout all weekly games and not worry about the responsibilities and pressure of running a club side, can pick the top perfoming players based on form from his own eyes, not others say so.... a full time coach with full time preperation.... but not Laurie Daley not Phil Gould not Ricky Stuart, andrew john, brad fitler....... with the exception of gould who has results.... but is nothing but a sour cancer to the game now... the others were all brilliant players.... but bad coaches they make....to much one of the boys etc etc....
Thats a bit harsh. Marshall wasn't to blame for his incident. A friend of mine slings beers at that spot and basically these blokes caused trouble because Marshall wanted to be left alone. Look at Daine Laurie, Even though he got off with assaulting hid girlfriend the Tigers still tore up his contract.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sharky
'sif you all didn't know:
http://www.smh.com.au/world-cup-2010...ml?autostart=1
I was expecting Spain to win, but I wanted the Netherlands to win cos I have Trypticon which I consider to be my "Dutch" TF whereas I don't have any TF I consider to be "Spanish" (yeah, I don't own any of the Jointrons :p). Ah well.
The final was dull, the 3 vs 4 match was (as almost always is) the more entertaining game.
Spain played to win, the Netherlands played to not lose, so no surprises as to who won... Took Spain longer than I had thought, but still the scoreline I had predicted.
Spain was my pre tournament pick for the champions, although out of the two I wanted Holland to win.
Who did the octopus pick?
Spain.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bartrim