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Originally Posted by Paulbot
I am tempted to do this now too. Good excuse for me to buy Very-blue Blurr.Quote:
Originally Posted by prjkt
Anyone seen a pic of this combination anywhere?
I tried doing a Hardhead/Blaster swap and Blaster's head was okay on Hardhead but not the other way around.
If there're any Blurr's left at Myer s/l tomorrow I'll give Blue-urr a shot
Had a look at them on store today and I think Nightbeat would be a better fit. He seems the same shade of blue and could look good. Siren's red legs might stand out (something I noticed when I put Blaster's head on Hardhead)
Well I've got both heads (was going to try to mod Gen. Nightbeat to see if that would work) so I'll try tomorrow
I saw on the news last night the OCC being in Brisbane this weekend (which I completely forgot about), and they Hal Rayle shown with some of the other guests.Quote:
Originally Posted by UltimateGalvatron
I wouldn't have gone just for him (I've seen him at BotCon too), but I would have posted about it for other Brisbanites... and if I had known he was coming to Australia (for the Melbourne and Brisbane Cons), I would have posted about it in the news section a few weeks back.
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I absolutely would've gone to meet him had I known. :(
I didn't know he was gonna be there either til I arrived! Some how I had forgotten to check the guest list :/Quote:
Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime
I'm finding I'm really enjoying the little Titan Masters, even moreso than the larger figures in the TR line. I only have Crashbash and Skytread so far but I'm already enamoured. To the point where I'm willing to pay full RRP just to get them.
Well played Hasbro.
Me too. I wish it was easier to just pick up little head guys here in Japan.
They'd be perfect Gacha gacha toys!
well, a bit delayed, but here is the result and a comparison. Managed to get one single photo out of my very flat spare camera.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulbot
http://i.imgur.com/iZZFIFI.jpg
Nightbeat is almost a perfect match colour wise with that blue, and considering this is a two-eyed face, while my idea of Nightbeat is that he has shades (visor) I'm happy with this "new" character. Plus LG Blurr get's a silver gun now.
Be interesting to see how the LG Go Shooter head works (Have LG Wheelie/Go Shooter on pre-order) - Might be another potential use for this guy.
Nice one. That head does look make for the body.Quote:
Originally Posted by prjkt
That looks more distinctive than Generations Drift & Generations Blurr.
I like Computron.
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I realized that A LOT of Season Three that appeared a lot (not always as main characters but were still there) characters disappeared in the Rebirth, G1 Transformers 'Season Four'. I assume this is because they were focussing on selling the new Headmasters and Targetmasters, but I compiled a list and by Primus they missed a lot.
Autobots
*Blaster and Cassettes
*Perceptor
*Springer
*Sandstorm
*Broadside
*The Dinobots
*Metroplex
*Swerve, Pipes, Tailgate, Powerglide, Cosmos, Beachcomber and Warpath
*Sky Lynx
*Jazz
Decepticons
*Soundwave and Cassettes
*Astrotrain
*Blitzwing
*Trypticon
*The Battlechargers
*Dirge, Ramjet, Thrust
*Octane
*The Predacons
*The Stunticons
*The Sweeps (Not Scourge)
I probably missed some but yeah that is still a LOT.
That being said The Rebirth mini-series is among my favourite G1 episodes.
Pretty much everyone on that list was in the 1987 toyline so off the show they go!
Tthe G1 cartoon goes like this
Season 1: Promote the 1984 toys and some early ones from the 1985 line (Dinobots, Constructicons)
Season 2: Promote the 1985 toys and some early ones from the 1986 line (Stunticons, Aerialbots, Combaticons, Protectobots)
Season 3: Promote the 1986 toys and some early ones from the 1987 line (Terrorcons, Technobots)
Season 4: Promote the 1987 toys
So there's an application at work called Unicorn 7. I was putting together a presentation and just realised I typed Unicron 7 throughout the entire powerpoint.
A Herald you may be:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Lint
In an odd case of selective dyslexia, I spent several years thinking that the monster planet was called Unicorn.
I heard it as Unicorn when I watched TFTM, I thought the UK comics had a story called "The Legacy of Unicorn". I wrote it down as Unicorn whenever I used his name.
Then one day I was reading Marvel #75 (possibly the first time I read it) and noticed it was "misspelt" Unicron and thought 'that's weird'; so I looked at the other comics and books and never made that mistake again!
I wonder if the narrator of this golf club commercial is the same person who was the deep-voiced narrator of the original Transformers cartoon, as he sounds very similar, especially when he says "and now..." which is exactly like the bit of the Gen2 cartoon intro (when he says, And now through the magic of the cybernet spacecube...).
Many cartoon voice actors, do commercial voice-overs, and some have even mentioned it at BotCon.
(I heard a clip of it on the Checkout show from last week, and thought it was Peter Cullen at first, but according to the TFWiki, Victor Caroli narrated both Gen1 and Gen2 cartoons.)
If you're talking about Victor Caroli, I don't think so. This is a clip of Caroli narrating an ad. Here's Peter Cullen hawking Thundercats too.Quote:
Originally Posted by griffin
I have heard the same guy doing the golf clip above (which is pretty funny truth be told) doing 80s toy ads, I think it was somewhere in the Youtube Dino Riders episodes. I'm sure it's not Caroli though.
EDIT - Did a little hunting around, and it looks like the guy you're thinking of is someone else. Could be called Dan Shafer, but I'm not totally sure if that's the actual voiceover guy. He sounds a bit different to the golf ad guy though.
I guess there is a generic, deep-voice, American, narrator sound that American studios and business/advertising companies want, and these guys have mastered it to the point of sounding very similar at times.
At my Big W the price tag for Victorian read '$169 TF Fan Built' :o
This will probably sound a bit odd to the older fans out there but my son got his first Megatron that turns into a gun (Classics) on the weekend. He's got Megatron's that turn into tanks and jets... but never had an actual hand held gun Megs until now and he LOVES it... moreso than the CW tank one (which prior to the weekend was his favourite Megs). He's been playing with it non-stop all weekend with the largest of smiles on his face.
Just shows even todays kids can suspend their imagine of scale enough to really enjoy Megatron the gun as a concept. :)
My 3 year old daughter's favorite has been Leader Jetfire's spring loaded gun. Actually any of the TF guns that shoot something. Oddly that includes her Strongarm's non functional gun and my Windblade's sword. Shockwave is desired but off limits.
I think kids just like the idea of shooting stuff.
On a side note when she first met CW Megatron she liked to give him hugs... and shoot his gun.
I forgot that Oreo-Bot was an actual thing
:D
If we were to divide the G1 period into 3 eras - Early, Middle and Late, how should it be divided?
Here's how I would divide it:
Early G1
1984
1985
1986
Middle G1
1987
1988
1989
Late G1
1990
1991
1992
Early-1993
I disregarded early 1993 (as it's commonly considered to be the first year of G2) and then divided 1984-92 by 3. I then "reattached" Early 1993 onto the third era, lumping it together with Late Generation 1. And so...
* Early G1 represents the Golden Years of G1. The bulk of MP figures draw on characters from this era.
* Middle G1 represents... well... the middle years of G1. The US G1 cartoon was wrapped up with only 3 episodes in '87 before cancellation, although the Marvel Comics were still chugging along fine.
* Late G1 represents the more notable years of G1's decline, and coincidentally the early 90s years of G1 (so the 80s represent Early to Middle G1). Action Masters and Micromasters dominate the early part of this era, and it also saw the eventual cancellation of the G1 comics. 1990 was the final year of Transformers in the U.S. with 1991 being the final year in Japan. 1992 and early 1993 were the years where Transformers were only still being sold in Australasia and Europe.
Do you guys think that this would be a fair division of the Generation 1 Period if we were to split it three ways? :o
I would do it like:
Early G1
1984
1985
Middle G1
1986
1987
1988
1989
Late G1
1990
1991
1992
Early-1993
Into just 3 divisions? Would stick with the 86/87 division which is noted by the shift from being predominately existing toys to being new TF-line specific toys as well as beginning the gimmicks-led era.
The 91-93 is in my mind the Euro Era, the memorable toys from those years are the Euro-exclusives (which had gimmicks less invasive than *Master ones) plus the rerelease of Classic toys
Original Era 84-86
Master Era 87-89
Euro Era 90-93
I actually like this one more then mine. Making the three era's more about the theme of the time rather then the time of release.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulbot
It's basically the same as the way that I divided the years, albeit with different names - and that's cool too. :) I just used "Early" "Middle" and "Late" because that's how historical periods are often described.Quote:
Originally Posted by UltimateGalvatron
e.g. Early Roman Empire, Middle English, Late Victorian etc.
Some people might like to label them after precious metals, as they did with the DC eras. Thus...
1984-86 = Golden Age
1987-89 = Silver Age
1990-93 = Bronze Age
I was going to suggest 1990 was part of the Silver Age but I was misremembering when Classics came out and changed that before I hit post.
The first few years are a funny one. The shift to non-earth vehicles in 1986 (and the cartoon jumping to 2005) makes me want to divide between 1985/86. But 1985 includes everything from 1984 that an era that was (kinda) one years worth is a bit too small. The 1987 shift was the bigger one.
And thinking about it more, 1987 changed the packaging logo and added the pixelated sunburst which is a nice divide. 1989's silver/gold packaging design, new logo, grid tech specs and smaller pack-in catalogue where another major shift.
If you just considered the US G1 I'd break it as 84-86 / 87-88 / 89-90. Maybe even that with 91-93 as the extra European Era...
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Originally Posted by UltimateGalvatron
Missed these posts the other week..Quote:
Originally Posted by griffin
I went to the Sunday Sydney Comic Con just to meet Hal Rayle, a bucket list thing to talk to someone who actually voiced G1. I got a picture with him which he was happy about about because apparently I was the first to do so (this was very late in the day) then went back to the signing thing. He signed my Predator 2 dvd cover and started talking to me in the Predator voice which was interesting.
He was also going to give me a signed card with a bunch of his characters on it (Snarl, Raphael [he filled in on TMNT sometimes], Deep Six from GI Joe which I also grew up with via videos, etc ) but his "supervisor" next to him shot us down (apparently that would of cost me another $30 or something, not being a convention regular I didn't realise), was put off by attitude that went with the shoot down, especially since Hal himself seemed content... Exchanged pleasantries with him for another minute or two then left... realising I'd forgotten to bring up anything G1.
So, meeting a G1 voice actor was cool, but first convention experience, did not enjoy, definitely not my thing.
Yeah, the guests are still people who for the most part want to engage with their fans, but there's the business side of things and money to be made. I guess if you got a freebie then someone else might have a whinge. Sad but true. I'm sure if Hal really pushed it you could've got the autograph though. The supervisor ultimately can't do squat about it.
Conventions were much nicer years ago before they got too crowded. Like when I could just stroll up to George Takei and just have a casual chin wag with him. No big queue, no fee to just speak with him (only if you wanted an autograph)... those were great times. Nowadays you're lucky if you can even see an international guest at a big con without waiting in a freakishly long queue that you have to pay for the privilege to stand in. :rolleyes:
You can still experience this at smaller and lesser known conventions like Heroes and Villains (which is really more like a collectables market that happened to have international guests). I was able to have a good chat with people like Garry Chalk and Steve Blum, get autographs, take photos etc. - all without paying an arm and a leg!
Pretenders = Robots in Disguise in Disguise
Picked up the 3 latest IDW comics today and read them... detected no glaring errors in spelling or grammar! :eek: :D #celebratingmediocrity
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To be fair, Combiner Wars achieves a very different thing from Titans Return. TR figures don't need to combine, and being able to combine to form a gestalt - especially one that's stable with self-contained connecting joints and interchangeable limbs etc. is a compounded gimmick which the toy needs to accommodate. This will invariably impact on the design/engineering of each figure. The Headmaster gimmick on the other hand is a whole different kettle of Sharkticons. On one hand, the toy must have a cockpit for the Titan Master, but on the other hand it doesn't need to stow the head away in alt mode as it's detachable. Furthermore, those which are based on G1 Headmasters are emulating toys whose original design already catered for this gimmick. e.g. Mindwipe has a big unsightly windowed cockpit in the belly of the alt mode, but this is fine because it's G1 accurate. :) And for non previously Headmasters becoming Titan Masters, finding a place to stow the pilot isn't as challenging because you don't need to worry about a place to stow the head. It's basically a trade off.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZoonMaster5000
And I may be in a minority here, but I'm personally not thrilled about TR making almost everyone into a Headmaster because it kinda cheapens the idea of being a Headmaster. I see these "Master" gimmicks as a special ability amongst Cybertronians, and as Syndrome from The Incredibles said, once everyone's super then noone will be. For characters who were originally Headmasters, then I really enjoy having them as Titan Masters. But for those who aren't, it either turns me off getting those toys or simply adds nothing for me. I honestly would have preferred it if Scourge weren't a Headmaster. I'd prefer it if he were either a Targetmaster or just no kind of any Master at all (like the original 1986 Scourge). But having him as a Headmaster is easier for me to accept (as I imagine that Fracas has been upgraded from a Targetmaster to a Headmaster) than say a character who was never a ~Master, like Blaster. Even when that toy was $60 at Myer (great value!) I still couldn't bring myself to get one.
For this reason I also have no intention of getting TR Perceptor either. I have Generations Perceptor, and if I desperately want to see him in microscope mode then I have G1 Perceptor for that! (this is the same rationale I had for Blaster) I do plan on getting toys like Sixshot and Broadside, but again, because there are no other Classicsverse versions of these characters. I'm getting them despite being Titanmasters not because of it.
I like the Titan Master gimmick just as I like the Headmaster gimmick, but everything in moderation. I feel that they've taken the Headmaster thing and overkilled it. I can understand them doing it with the same base moulds, like Brainstorm and Blurr. And indeed we saw the same thing in Combiner Wars with figures like Hound, Trailbreaker, Wheeljack etc. (which personally didn't interest me and I skipped them all), but I don't fault Hasbro for doing this as they're recouping the costs of developing those original core moulds, as well as reusing them for other figures like UW Lightspeed etc.
Also, Combiner Wars didn't make everyone into a gestalt component, and there were a lot of really good toys from that line that were non-gestalts. e.g. Megatron, Ultra Magnus etc. TR has this obsession with making every single figure in this line compatible with each other, but it's really not necessary IMHO.
Just my 2c. :o
I'm going to disagree with a couple of your points there Gok, but because we're all entitled to our opinions, I'll just start out by saying I understand where your coming from.
It might not be neccessary by collectors' standards, but it's an excellent marketing tool, and the way they've made things so that it's not just the heads that are compatible - ie Fortmax & Leaders become "bases" and the Legends interact with other classes, either as a "cassette" for Blaster/Soundwave or as vehicles for the Titanmasters, it takes the CW level intercompatibility to the next stage, without seriously hampering the figures that much - look at Wheelie - quite possibly the best Legends class figure I own, fits a Titanmaster in his canopy, yet transforms into a near perfect replica of his cartoon art.
I like that concept. I find it less an exclusive gimmick as it was back in the G1 days, "This guy here's a Headmaster, and this ones a Targetmaster. Over here you'll see a Sparkabot..." and more and inclusive feature across the line as a whole.
Now as collectors we want the characters for who they are, and sometimes who they've always been (hence why when I saw LG Blurr I got quite excited, even though I already had United Blurr, this guy is almost straight out of the cartoon) but kids these days don't know and probably don't care about the last 30 years of history, they've got a cool new toy, with bits and pieces that can be swapped or played with other toys in the line. It's great from that perspective.
I get you on the CW Autobots who weren't combiners to begin with - I already had each of those two waves of DLX figures in previous Classics-verse incarnations, so like you, I passed them up. But for a newer collector, or *shock-horror* a kid to whom the line is really aimed at, it's a way to get these characters that in some cases hadn't been seen on shelves in 9-10 years. I don't see an issue there. We just won't buy figures we don't want/need for our collections, while others buy them, and help fund future releases.
So far I've bought every TR character released, some Takara, but most Hasbro, but if the time comes and a character is released that I already have in another form and I feel is superior, I'll pass on the new one and that's OK.
On Perceptor, I've already got the Classics-verse release, in the form of the very nice and shiny GDO 3 pack release, but the TR one intrigues me as it's in G1 form... so like Brainstorm I may end up have two versions on my shelf, representing different versions of the character (Gen. Perceptor is my IDW sniper, Gen. Brainstorm is straight out of MTMTE while the TR guys may represent their cartoon forms.)
Apart from lack of shiny paint, which is a weakness I've had since I started collecting the Takara FOC line, I'm finding that so far, Titans Return is the strongest sub-line of Transformers Generations, even the Classics-verse as a whole. Looking forward to the seeing future holds down this path.
I agree, and I can totally see the play value of having cross-compatible figures, especially ones that can build a city. Reminds me of Micromasters in G1. :D And I agree that for people without any pre-existing G1 bias, they wouldn't care at all about any of the stuff I was on about. And the fact that both TR and LG toys are hard to find in Hasbro and TakaraTOMY markets illustrates just how popular these toys are. Everyone's definitely lovin' these toys. :)
But getting back to ZoonMaster5000's comment about TR>CW I think that both lines are really good, but they just achieve different things. CW toys may be more limited in engineering compared to many TR figures, but that's because they had to be able to combine (with a lot of self contained parts) and be interchangeable as limbs. TR are unburdened by such an intrusive gimmick. But both lines have given fans what they want. CW gave us Classicsverse Devastator, Superion, Defensor, Menasor, Computron, Bruticus etc. while TR is giving us all these other characters.
But yeah, in both CW and TR, I'm more likely to skip figures if they're a "repeat" character. :o But that's my view of CHUGUR overall. ;) The fact that both CW and TR are doing so well is great news for the brand, which ultimately is great news for us (although there is short term frustration in hunting these toys down :p). :cool:
I'm hoping to catch Steve Blum (R.I.D Fortress Maximus, Prime Starscream, Rescue Bots Heatwave and many more) at Supa-Nova Adelaide.