so when do we start calling each other Comrade?
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so when do we start calling each other Comrade?
Call me Polarclaw! ;):pQuote:
Originally Posted by Accel
The "Six Strikes" initiative starts tomorrow in the US.
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Following the untimely demise of proposed anti-piracy laws SOPA and PIPA, five Internet service providers (specifically AT&T, Cablevision Systems, Comcast, Time Warner Cable and Verizon) worked with the Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA), Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) and the Obama administration to create another set of protocols to stop digital pirates in their tracks.
Also - http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-57...racy-campaign/
In local news, even though the government has abandoned plans for an internet filter, Communications Minister Stephen Conroy says internet services providers (ISPs) have instead been issued with orders to block websites listed on Interpol's 'worst of' database.
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"We've reached agreement with all of the telco service providers that they will block the worst of the worst - the child abuse pornography material that's available on the public internet," Senator Conroy told AM.
"Police have issued notices to a whole range of companies, and the few remaining companies that make up about 10 per cent will (soon) start receiving notices."
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On top of this, the popular internet file sharing site the Pirate Bay has been under constant DDoS attack this month.
It will be interesting to see how this all plays out in the coming months.
DDos attack - Is this the reason why TPG is telling me that i have been sending unwanted traffic and that I have trojan virus?
No, it's just a 'denial of service' meaning you can't access the site. There are no errors, the page just times out.Quote:
Originally Posted by jazzcomp
It's back on the agenda boys. Everything old is new again, or just re-badged with this government. Heaven forbid if they ever came up with their own ideas and thoughts :rolleyes:
Yes lets waste resources and money into something like trying to control the internet like Big Brother and for Murdoch's interests.
Don't worry about the mass jobs losses in the manufacturing industry or job creation, or a plan for the economy which looks to go into recession in the near future.
but they don't have a mandate to bring this in:confused:
Didnt they say they weren't going to bring this in. Tony wouldn't lie to me would he?:rolleyes:
The amusing thing is that Rupert and his ilk think that if he can stop me downloading stuff then I will cough up for pay tv. What he fails to realise is that I will simply not watch tv anymore ;)
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How would they even go about doing that? :confused:
Pff, what a waste of time, I'll stop pirating when there's a service worth using.
Argh set sails for the seas to evade those law enforcees!
...this just frustrates me to the point where I can't come up with anything useful to add beyond: "Who's for a Federal Bi-Election? :) - Conroy, you're banned from competing too!". :mad:
Here's a very interesting read if you have the time. Pretty much what the majority of us feel IMO.
Yep, sums it up nicely. The politicians only want to enforce things not from a moral point of view but rather pressure from lobbying corporations.Quote:
Originally Posted by 5FDP
I say and predict that democracy is now an illusion for the common people. The world is now ran by corporations and the politicians merely their puppets.
Compounded with the comments of new NBN chairman Ziggy-a-man-of-failures-Switkowski.. http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2014/02/nb...any-time-soon/
Movie companies, Foxtel and Telstra seem to be on easy street.
It makes me so frustrated when I come back from overseas on a holiday. Not because the holiday is over but what other countries are doing and Australia is standing still - or going backwards. :(
I'm still gonna say it. We need someone like V to bring the government crashing down.
Australians tend to be more passive aggressive. We complain a lot but the revolutionary spirit is not really there. The stand will always be 'This sucks but whatyagonnado..'Quote:
Originally Posted by 1AZRAEL1
House prices are ridiculous - Politician's fault
Cost of living is ridiculous - Politician's fault.
Our road and transport infrastructure is horrible - Politician's fault.
Our Telecommunications infrastructure is not even 3rd world - Politician's fault.
All because for the last 30 years (at least), politicians are not representing the people but monopolists or big corporations. Labor tends to side with Unions but they are also corrupt as shit and one of the reasons why we have such high wages which is taken advantage of by corporations pushing up the cost of living so high and causing jobs to go overseas.
I blame (some of ours) convict past for the wadaryagunnado-non-revolutionary attitude.
When you've been arrested & sent to the other side of the world for nothing more than flogging a loaf of bread to feed your starving family, because you're at the lower end of the social-economic spectrum and that's considered a criminal offence? - You'd feel somewhat apathetic towards life too I'd imagine. :oQuote:
Originally Posted by Deonasis
Interesting read that one. Working in cinema in which is now mostly digital, I know for a fact that one option being looked at was digital transferring of films for sites, as it save delivery costs as well as the cost of physical drives.Quote:
Originally Posted by Deonasis
However it was quickly put down due to the slow internet speeds we have...
Sure, a family might have trouble using up 100mps of speed, but I bet business wouldn't have that much trouble.
What narrow mindedness the leaders of this country have.
I say that it's more them looking after their own interests. The Libs are running Telstra's agenda because they give them good mulah. Without the copper network, Telstra's monopoly is dead so they will defend and oppose anything that would threaten it to the very end.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetsuwan Convoy
Labour is just freaking stupid and incompetent.
I didn't read the links on here so correct me if I'm wrong but are we all upset about the Governments stance on internet piracy?
My 2cents (might as well throw it in) Yes I'm not happy but it is illegal so I can't exactly justify having a whinge about the Government trying to put a stop to it.
I pirate a lot, so if they actually manage to stifle it I'll be dissapointed. But hey if something is good I buy it anyway, so I'll only really stop watching/Reading as much trash.
The governments discussion paper on how they plan to curb 'illegal' downloads is almost here. What I find interesting is that it appears to be a direct rip-off of the UK's proposed plan which was subsequently thrown out the window. Basically, in the UK, they have ruled that they cannot make the ISP's accountable which makes sense because if it were up to the ISP's, then they would have to pass the cost of policing this onto the consumer. I cannot see the 80% of people who do not engage with online piracy copping this on the chin.
Back here in Australia, the main sore point seems to be associated with Game of Thrones - the most downloaded show in history. Keen observers will also note that the main party flogging the governments agenda is News.com.au which is owned by News Corp Australia, which half-owns Foxtel, the company responsible for bringing Game of Thrones to our shores :rolleyes:
It will be interesting to see how this plays out from here but in all honesty, for those that download, I wouldn't hold your collective breaths just yet.
I don't want Foxtel just to watch Game of Thrones - It sucks! The only other alternative to watch the show when everyone else does is to download. If you wait too long, the Internet becomes a mine field of spoilers.Quote:
Originally Posted by 5FDP
I buy the Blueray box set when it's released to contribute, couldn't be assed with FoxTel as is horrible and a rip off.
And this is why HBO don't care that we pirate that bloody show to hell. Piracy is only theoretical lost money, I'll never get foxtel, it's shit. So if I pirate GoT or not the net loss is the same for foxtel.Quote:
Originally Posted by kup
I assume they'll only be able to control torrents from public trackers, so Pass the Popcorn and the like will be safe to use anyway. They can't win.
They think they can steer people towards Foxtel if downloading is no longer possible :rolleyes: I think they forget that before downloading, everyone was just ripping movies / shows hired from their local video store. The only difference between the two is that someone has already done it for you. Worst case scenario - I'll just stop watching these shows altogether. I'm not going to be force-fed their advertisements when paying for what's supposed to be a premium product.
One / Ten canned the NFL hoping that people would subscribe to Fox Sports. How did that work out for them ;) Hello Channel 7 and their new 5 year / free-to-air deal. That's what happens when companies get greedy.
Government anti-piracy "policies" are a case study in the 'follow the money' line of thinking. Basically, media companies refuse to rapidly move with the times and adopt new methods of monetizing their products. Sure, it is slowly starting to happen, but there is still a long way to go. (Eg: Think about how negatively the music industry used to view mp3. Now you can buy direct off itunes, telstra, or the artists site).
I have a T-Box which is a fantastic device as it allows you to watch new movies without leaving your coach. The $5 cost is added to your monthly bill. Yep, its $5 more than a free download, but it is a lot less hassle, and guaranteed good quality. This has actually lead to me d/l'ing less movies. Foxtel is available on the Tbox too. The channels are all there and streamed over the net (unmetered). So why can I not just pay to watch a GoT episode on HBO? Is it really that hard? Why do I have to get a monthly package, for 12 months? (Oh, the money thing again. $30/month times 12 = $360 divided by 10 GoT episodes = $36/episode. Yeah, I don't think so).
Media companies would rather force the govt to police the internet as they know there is no way that they can themselves.
Anyway what I really wanted to say was, from a computer POV, there is NO WAY that the government (or any other corporation or lobby group) can 'censor' the internet with the goal of preventing illegal downloads. There are simply too many ways around whatever restrictions are put in place. And many methods to hide your online activities.
Just look at TPB. And internet censorship in China.
I could on and on, but I won't. Internet censorship really, really pisses me off!
Disclaimer: The $36/ep thing is only an example. I really don't know any details on foxtel prices and packages.
TBH I can't see this happening.
Firstly, IInet won a case. You can't just overturn a legal case because the outcome didn't suit you. It undermines the entire justice system, as well as your party's reputation for even considering it.
Secondly, I highly doubt that ISP's will spend the money necessary to police internet activity on every one of their customers, set up systems to determine the content that is considered "illegal", send them warnings, shape them, whatever. It's simply too costly. To afford this setup they would have to charge their customers more, meaning a LOT of lost business.
Seriously, the main reason that Australia has one of the highest rates of internet piracy is simply because much of the content we want is not available in Australia, and when it is, IT'S LATE!! We've already read the spoilers on social media and international news websites. WTF?!
It's music to my ears to hear that Netflix are considering setting up in Australia. Cheap, unlimited content? Yes please!
You realise Gok that if Netflix sets up here, it won't have nearly as much content as it has in the US purely because the rights to a lot of content are already held by Foxtel and the like. It will be a very trimmed down version.
And it will be expensive. Just like every thing else here.;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Trent
True story - a couple of years ago, one of the directors of the ACMA contacted my work saying that his internet seemed to have slowed to a crawl. Upon investigating, it appeared as though he/she was capped due to excessive downloading every night for the past several weeks. As it turns out, his/her child had been scheduling torrents during the night and used up all the data in their plan. This is a kid of one of the head honchos running the ACMA. So before Malcolm Turnbull starts running his mouth off about suing parents, maybe they should start by looking within ;)
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Originally Posted by Trent
You are both right on this point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Omega Metro
Too many politicians and their (business owner) friends have a stake in Foxtel... so it will be well protected from any competition to its monopoly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trent
One of the big problems is that they are treating Foxtel as the same broadcast medium as free-to-air TV or online streaming... when it should be treated as its own broadcast medium (like radio, FTA-TV, Internet, pay-TV, newspapers, magazines). Each has its own realm and competitors... and exclusive rights to that broadcast medium.
Foxtel should be competing against other Pay-TV companies (like cable channels compete in America), but due to the way that broadcast medium was set up by the Federal Government, and then created a domineering juggernaut in the communications field of phones and Pay-TV when they sold off Telstra, Foxtel soon became a monopoly to Pay-TV (and phones).
It shouldn't be a direct competitor to FTA-TV, or Internet streaming of content, just because they've now crushed all opposition in the Pay-TV realm. The point of Pay-TV is to watch the same programs without advertising... that's what you are paying directly for, instead of indirectly on FTA-TV by patronising the advertisers. If Pay-TV keeps expanding on their exclusive content to the point of it being the only source of all the hit shows and sports, they'll start treating it like regular TV and fill the thing with commercials because exclusive content will be the incentive to pay for a subscription. (they haven't promoted "commercial free" for a long time now anyway)
Each of the other broadcast mediums are treated as separate for content, ratings and exclusive programming deals, so Foxtel shouldn't be given exclusive rights over other broadcast mediums. Otherwise, we will see more problems and more corruption by politicians protecting their investments, and their family and friends' investments, by prioritising and protecting Foxtel.
Why not grab Netflix now like i have? I have access to both US and UK Netflix library and it costs me $13/month. We watch it via the Wii U in the lounge room, PS3 in the bedroom, and the kids watch it on their tablets wherever they want in the house. I've found myself downloading less since having Netflix.Quote:
Originally Posted by Omega Metro
Legit or region swapping shenanigans for the Wii U?Quote:
Originally Posted by shokwave2
Create a separate profile, input country of residence as United Kingdom, download Netflix from UK eShop, sign up for Netflix (about $5/month) and Unblock-us.com ($8/month) and follow set-up instructions on Unblock-us.com http://support.unblock-us.com/custom...rticles/879957. Just watch through regular profile. It's all legit, no dodgy downloading or software.
I seriously don't have the time to sit down and watch ANY TV show. Plus most are garbage anyway. (Games Of Thrones is overrated tripe....it's soooo boring!:confused:)Quote:
Originally Posted by shokwave2
I'm happy to buy the blockbuster Blu-Ray movies and leave it at that.
And.... I would not know how to download a movie even if I tried.:D