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Duke Nukem Forever, I have mixed feelings. Im up to the dam in the generator room and stuck at the boss. The gun limit should of been 3, 1 heavy like a rocket launcher, and 2 others like a shotgun and ripper. I think I'll trade this one in today for store credit.

The scathing reviews in my opinion are justified. The game should of been marketed more low key with less hype and released as a budget title and include extras with the game like, like artwork, concepts etc. or even throw in Duke 3d. Or they could of packaged DNF with a new borderlands dlc that had a Duke Nukem Theme to it. It wouldn't surprise me if they have dlc planned for this game. I think they should release it for free to dampen the cynical opinion.

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Originally Posted by Hursticon

When I finally get a copy, I'll tell you. :p

I agree with you on the scores it's getting - WTF did people think they were getting?, All Gearbox did was dust this Old Game they found off and then whacked a sticker on it and released it. :rolleyes:
It can't and shouldn't be compared to contemporary games, Haters will be haters but at least hate something for legitimate reasons :mad: - I just say Gearbox had better follow it up, they'd be stupid not to. ;):cool:

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Maybe they are hating for a legitimate reason. All the hype around this game made it out to be the best thing since sliced bread and from what I've seen (I don't listen to others reviews but I watched any vids on it I could) it is so far from it. Also I'm not really a fan of the low humour. Why do you need to get excrement from a toilet and throw it around? Shooting pregnant (albeit with aliens) women and cracking jokes about abortion -I haven't seen that part, a friend told me about it. I hope he is lying because that is just tasteless. But even if you can tolerate that "humour" from what I've seen of the gameplay it looks almost suitable for playstation1 not 3. If thats what they were going for then fine but don't hype the game up to be super fantastic and then release this mediocre FPS... and then the PR company had a dummy spit at the bad reviews. What do you expect:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Gutsman Heavy

Do not like. That two weapon limit really kills it for me.

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Originally Posted by Defcon

Duke Nukem Forever, I have mixed feelings. Im up to the dam in the generator room and stuck at the boss. The gun limit should of been 3, 1 heavy like a rocket launcher, and 2 others like a shotgun and ripper.

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I certainly didn't find the gun limit game breaking, but I do agree with Defcon - 3 weapons would have been the magic number (and not a physical impossibility like Gordon Freeman and his Tardis backpack).

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Originally Posted by Defcon

The scathing reviews in my opinion are justified. The game should of been marketed more low key with less hype and released as a budget title and include extras with the game like, like artwork, concepts etc. or even throw in Duke 3d. Or they could of packaged DNF with a new borderlands dlc that had a Duke Nukem Theme to it. It wouldn't surprise me if they have dlc planned for this game. I think they should release it for free to dampen the cynical opinion.

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lol, you make it sound like they should be ashamed to have even thought of releasing it. "Here, have it for $30. Have all this extra cardboard crap for free too. And this free DLC. And Duke3D. And a coupon to get $20 back. We are so, so sorry."

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Originally Posted by Bartrim

All the hype around this game made it out to be the best thing since sliced bread

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The only hype I've seen surrounding DNF is the amazement factor that it's actually coming/came out...

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Originally Posted by Defcon

The scathing reviews in my opinion are justified. The game should of been marketed more low key with less hype and released as a budget title and include extras with the game like, like artwork, concepts etc. or even throw in Duke 3d. Or they could of packaged DNF with a new borderlands dlc that had a Duke Nukem Theme to it. It wouldn't surprise me if they have dlc planned for this game. I think they should release it for free to dampen the cynical opinion.

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Originally Posted by Doubledealer

lol, you make it sound like they should be ashamed to have even thought of releasing it. "Here, have it for $30. Have all this extra cardboard crap for free too. And this free DLC. And Duke3D. And a coupon to get $20 back. We are so, so sorry."

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Spot on DD.

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The only hype I've seen surrounding DNF is the amazement factor that it's actually coming/came out...

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QFT! :cool:
The only hype that was placed around this game was the fact that it was being released at all and that compared to Duke3D it was streaks ahead.

It was never marketed or totted to be a Current Gen Graphics Masterpiece nor a Gameplay Revolution and if you thought it was, then you've completely missed the point.
The release of this game was purely to give those fans who had been waiting since '97 the game they should've received 10 years ago, at no point was it ever to cater to the ridiculous expectations of today's gaming public.

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Originally Posted by Bartrim

Maybe they are hating for a legitimate reason. All the hype around this game made it out to be the best thing since sliced bread and from what I've seen (I don't listen to others reviews but I watched any vids on it I could) it is so far from it. Also I'm not really a fan of the low humour. Why do you need to get excrement from a toilet and throw it around? Shooting pregnant (albeit with aliens) women and cracking jokes about abortion -I haven't seen that part, a friend told me about it. I hope he is lying because that is just tasteless. But even if you can tolerate that "humour" from what I've seen of the gameplay it looks almost suitable for playstation1 not 3. If thats what they were going for then fine but don't hype the game up to be super fantastic and then release this mediocre FPS... and then the PR company had a dummy spit at the bad reviews. What do you expect:rolleyes:

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The humour may not be to everyone's taste, I can accept that as it's perfectly fair.

It's funny though that 90% of those having a winge about the game are playing it on consoles, lol, which is where most of the negative reviews are coming from where as those playing and reviewing it on PC are majoritively rating this game quite highly but within the context it should be - so evidently these people are far better informed.

Seriously though man, go back and look at all the promotional material, trailers and interviews and find me where it says "Will Revolutionise Gaming Today!" and/or "Graphics That'll Make Crisis Seem Like Pacman!".
Truly dude, all they did was dust this old game off, port it to 360 and PS3 and release it - The Graphics and Gameplay are obviously dated: It's a 10 year old game!, but it was never suggested that it'd be anything different either.

I wouldn't call it Mediocre either, It's Duke friggin' Nukem!
Have you seen FPS's these days? - You've got the utterly plain and boring Halo that people seem to eat up but has nothing that Doom didn't have or the dime-a-dozen Modern Warfare shooters but as soon as something comes out that isn't either of these 2 and dares to be different, it's derided to all hell.

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At the end of the day, there was no more hype around this game than any other game, it was actually rather basic compared to games these days, the context of this game's hype though was that: it was being released at all - but it seems a great number of people have completely misinterpreted that context which is thoroughly sad because the game is now being judged on merits it never sought to compete on.

I hope that Gearbox looks beyond the ill-informed and ridiculous opinions to see that the actual fans of the game are enjoying the hell out of it, especially those on PC who in time wont have the 2 Gun limit :p, and are very-very thankful that they took the risk of releasing the game purely to do us the fans a favour.

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Originally Posted by Hursticon

It was never marketed or totted to be a Current Gen Graphics Masterpiece nor a Gameplay Revolution and if you thought it was, then you've completely missed the point.
The release of this game was purely to give those fans who had been waiting since '97 the game they should've received 10 years ago, at no point was it ever to cater to the ridiculous expectations of today's gaming public.

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Bada-boom, bada-BINGO!

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Originally Posted by Hursticon

I wouldn't call it Mediocre either, It's Duke friggin' Nukem!

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And it's got bacon, beer, bullets, babes and badassery. Nothing mediocre about any of those things. :D

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Originally Posted by Hursticon

Have you seen FPS's these days? - You've got the utterly plain and boring Halo that people seem to eat up but has nothing that Doom didn't have or the dime-a-dozen Modern Warfare shooters but as soon as something comes out that isn't either of these 2 and dares to be different, it's derided to all hell.

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Indeed! And not only is it something different, it actually has *gasp* personality! As Stompy was saying to me the other day, it has that certain X-Factor missing in so many games these days.

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Originally Posted by Hursticon

At the end of the day, there was no more hype around this game than any other game, it was actually rather basic compared to games these days, the context of this game's hype though was that: it was being released at all - but it seems a great number of people have completely misinterpreted that context which is thoroughly sad because the game is now being judged on merits it never sought to compete on.

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There was a quote I read somewhere re: DNF "If you're looking for something to hate, you'll find a lot to hate. If you're looking for something to love, you'll find a lot to love". Totally agree with this.

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Originally Posted by Hursticon

I hope that Gearbox looks beyond the ill-informed and ridiculous opinions to see that the actual fans of the game are enjoying the hell out of it, especially those on PC who in time wont have the 2 Gun limit :p, and are very-very thankful that they took the risk of releasing the game purely to do us the fans a favour.

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I sincerely hope they do too, or does everyone want to lose our babes to the alien masses? :confused:

Duke is interesting, as it has made me realise how much recent FPSs rely on stage specific set pieces to make them seem more cool. I was having trouble before with the gameplay (I was always carp at FPS games) but am finding it easier after turning up the x and Y sensitivity.

Yeh, more weapon holding would have been ace, I am always torn in which weapon to pick up for certain sections. Do I stay with the shot gun or grab that ripper? But I don't want to lose my rail gun. AAAARGH! Nuts, out of ammo now. Man I suck!:p

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Originally Posted by Defcon

Duke Nukem Forever, I have mixed feelings. Im up to the dam in the generator room and stuck at the boss. The gun limit should of been 3, 1 heavy like a rocket launcher, and 2 others like a shotgun and ripper. I think I'll trade this one in today for store credit.

The scathing reviews in my opinion are justified. The game should of been marketed more low key with less hype and released as a budget title and include extras with the game like, like artwork, concepts etc. or even throw in Duke 3d. Or they could of packaged DNF with a new borderlands dlc that had a Duke Nukem Theme to it. It wouldn't surprise me if they have dlc planned for this game. I think they should release it for free to dampen the cynical opinion.

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someone hasnt finished the game:rolleyes::p

i PASSED :D now to sell to someone else......hehe

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Originally Posted by Tetsuwan Convoy

Duke is interesting, as it has made me realise how much recent FPSs rely on stage specific set pieces to make them seem more cool. I was having trouble before with the gameplay (I was always carp at FPS games) but am finding it easier after turning up the x and Y sensitivity.

Yeh, more weapon holding would have been ace, I am always torn in which weapon to pick up for certain sections. Do I stay with the shot gun or grab that ripper? But I don't want to lose my rail gun. AAAARGH! Nuts, out of ammo now. Man I suck!:p

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you must YOU MUST choose the freeze gun in the underwater segment;)

*hides*

Ohhh, you guys have been playing Duke Nukem! I thought you meant Duke Nudem!! :o **shifty eyes** heheheh

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Originally Posted by SkyWarp91

I thought you meant Duke Nudem!! :o **shifty eyes** heheheh

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LOL! :p:D

My copy is on it's way now from OZGameShop, best price I've seen anywhere. ;):cool:
PC All The Way BABY! :D:D:D


Also, just whacked on my old copy of Tilted Mills: Children of The Nile and was wondering if anybody else had played this at all? :)