The Pros & Cons of Michael Bay - discussion topic

Going to share this here: Transformers ruin your favourite movies.

^Love it!

At the end of the video with Michael Bay, my girlfriend goes "was that Michael Bay? I've never seen him before. I always imagined he was just a suit with a lense-flair for a head."

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Originally Posted by Paulbot

Going to share this here: Transformers ruin your favourite movies.

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Very good :)

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Originally Posted by Yongeltron

Transformers fan-hood isn't predicated on your level of knowledge, your years of following or the size of your collection. It's whether you like Transformers (for whatever that means to you).

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I'm not talking about fans (I don't need to justify being a fan to another fan :p), I'm talking about non-fans who perceive the live action films as being the entire TF franchise. They think that Transformers actually didn't exist before 2007! :eek: So when people see that I'm a fan of Transformers, they immediately make certain assumptions about my taste in movies/stories, and so I'm often left having to defend my passion for Transformers by explaining to them that it goes well beyond just the live action film series. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime

I'm not talking about fans (I don't need to justify being a fan to another fan :p), I'm talking about non-fans who perceive the live action films as being the entire TF franchise. They think that Transformers actually didn't exist before 2007! :eek: So when people see that I'm a fan of Transformers, they immediately make certain assumptions about my taste in movies/stories, and so I'm often left having to defend my passion for Transformers by explaining to them that it goes well beyond just the live action film series. :rolleyes:

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same here, Many do not know beyond the existence of the flim series.

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Originally Posted by Smint

Inbetween your lol's you missed the point. The point wasn't about bums in seats, if this was the case McDonalds would be restaurant of the year.

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1.4 billion returns to McDonalds shareholders for FY14 isn't something to be scoffed at. But, hey, you don't enjoy the Bay films? then don't invest any more time and/or money into them -just don't sit there and tell me that an over glorified popcorn movie like The Avengers has

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Good story, smart characters, no devastator balls are all im asking for. Bay gets it completely and utterly wrong AND makes a terrible movie.

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We must've watched two different versions then. What Avengers story? What smart characters? What development? We love taking pot shots at Bay for lack of character driven stories, but to throw The Avengers into the mix as a comparison? You've got to be kidding me, right? Tell me you're kidding. I've seen better stories on Dora The Explorer.

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The TF movies are very bad but clearly people like yourself love this stuff

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See, that's just an assumption. I don't "love" the Bay films and don't lose any sleep over them either. Labelling me as such would be akin to me calling you a pseudo intellectual overzealous Marvel Fanboy.

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I think what's lol is TF4 with a 18% on rotten tomatoes. It joins the ranks of The Rock's Toothfairy and is worse than the last Resident Evil movie. Pretty sure those movies made decent money too.

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I'm sure they have and I'm glad that you've taken the time out to illustrate that to me. Ratings on a website have absolutely zero bearings on how i feel about a particular movie. 1% or 100% i couldn't care about it either way. 18% on a website or a billion dollars in takings? Which one do you think that the makers of AoE consider a more important measure of success.

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I wont comment on your taste but if you don't consider Avatar, Avengers and LOTR movies "great" then you're in the minority.

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And I'm glad that I am ;)

I pick Avengers or Pacific Rim over the last 3 TF flims.

If money was a concern then all the more I would have prefered if TF movies are done more seriously with a better plot.

I still watch them, just saying it could have been way more better and Takara and Hasbro can earn way more.

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Originally Posted by Sinnertwin

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See, that's just an assumption. I don't "love" the Bay films and don't lose any sleep over them either. Labelling me as such would be akin to me calling you a pseudo intellectual overzealous Marvel Fanboy.

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So you're defending the TF movies for what? Because it made money? Everyone knows it made money. We were discussing the movie itself, TF making money was not even the point.

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Originally Posted by Sinnertwin

1.4 billion returns to McDonalds shareholders for FY14 isn't something to be scoffed at. But, hey, you don't enjoy the Bay films? then don't invest any more time and/or money into them -just don't sit there and tell me that an over glorified popcorn movie like The Avengers has



We must've watched two different versions then. What Avengers story? What smart characters? What development? We love taking pot shots at Bay for lack of character driven stories, but to throw The Avengers into the mix as a comparison? You've got to be kidding me, right? Tell me you're kidding. I've seen better stories on Dora The Explorer.



See, that's just an assumption. I don't "love" the Bay films and don't lose any sleep over them either. Labelling me as such would be akin to me calling you a pseudo intellectual overzealous Marvel Fanboy.



I'm sure they have and I'm glad that you've taken the time out to illustrate that to me. Ratings on a website have absolutely zero bearings on how i feel about a particular movie. 1% or 100% i couldn't care about it either way. 18% on a website or a billion dollars in takings? Which one do you think that the makers of AoE consider a more important measure of success.




And I'm glad that I am ;)

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Whoah Sinner! I've never seen you so vehement!

Cool! :cool:;)

This is my new favourite thread to read when I am bored.

Oh the hypocrisy featured here :eek:

But it does make me LOL. :D:p