Don't say I didn't warn you:
http://www.superherohype.com/news/38...r-who#/slide/1
Looks like we'll be getting a new Doctor soon
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Don't say I didn't warn you:
http://www.superherohype.com/news/38...r-who#/slide/1
Looks like we'll be getting a new Doctor soon
Considering that he got no work from this show for a year, I can't say I blame him.
I'm just gonna leave this here... ;)
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y22...pstj1dhkvj.jpg
Never noticed this before... David TENnant.
And Matt SmiELEVENthQuote:
Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime
Rumour is going around that Class has been cancelled after the first season, which would be a shame. I'd like to see more.
Just to be silly here...
William Hartonell
Patrick Twoughton
Jon Perthree
Tom Quarter
Peter Fiveson
Colin Sixer
Sevenster McCoy
Paul McEight
War Hurt
Christopher Ecclesnine
David Tennant
Matt Smeleventh
Peter Twelvaldi
Mark the date - Sunday April 16th is the start of the new season of Doctor Who, and should be the last season with Peter Capaldi.
There also appears to be a discussion show after each episode on the ABC that night, with Rove McManus... according to a commercial I saw the other night, but I'm not too sure about the details.
It's probably been posted before - or people have already seen it - but I found this interesting - Dr Who recast if it was an American show rather than a British one... https://www.buzzfeed.com/newu456/wha...pMP#.owVN609yP
New Doctor Who series started airing while I was in Japan, so I'm now playing catch up. Just finished watching Episode 1 ("Pilot") on ABC iView.
Yup, saw it , good thing I was day off that day. Interesting new companions.
Who do you think is in the vault?
My current suspicion is on Missy/the Master.
My theory is the Master is in there, to prevent him from interacting with Missy. Lord knows we've seen many Doctors together, but never more than one Master.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime
Well, now we know who's in the vault. :o
Question: How come the Tardis' translation matrix was unable to translate Italian? Even if the Tardis was a simulacrum I'm assuming that it still would've had all of its regular functions including translation. And if not, why wouldn't that tip Nadole and the Doctor off that there was something wrong? :confused:
Mind you, this wouldn't be the first time that the Doctor has encountered a foreign language where he needed interpreting. There was one episode where the 5th Doctor encountered a robot who spoke Indigenous Australian and he needed Tegan to translate for him.
Wasnt super happy with the vault reveal.
If she remained "dead" i would be curious as to how she was alive inside it but..
As for the translation; noticed it too. Perhaps the tardis doesnt if there's a translator already around?
I haven't been through too much Who-story (sorry, couldn't resist) but perhaps it doesn't translate ceremonial language.
Once again, The Master/Missy just shows up alive, without any (plausible) explanation... yet (but I doubt they will, or even explain how she was captured... which rarely happens).
Only episode 6... and he's blind. I really hope they don't keep that going for the rest of the season, unless we are already at the end of the season, as they appear to have now revealed the major elements and characters of this season's story arc.
Ecclesiastical Latin isn't hard to translate. It's basically simplified Vulgar Latin with Italianised phonology. But he was speaking Italian.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjYxwo0GcpM
Translation: "What's happening? Who are you two girls? How did I arrive in this house? I thought I was back in Vatican! This is madness! Doctor, why did you bring me here?"
I don't know what it is about this current Doctor Who series but I'm just not feeling it. :/
That's not the first Doctor..... :p
According to the BBC, we get to find out who the "13th" Doctor is, after the Wimbledon Mens Final later today.
We won't get to see their first episode until Christmas, but this gets ahead of any leaks once filming of their scenes begins.
Well... it's a girl.
I guess once the Master changed genders it was inevitable... I was just never a fan of that new era concept of changing genders with a regeneration.
It should be interesting though as it will give a whole new dynamic to the character, it's relationships with others, and how situations are dealt with.
Come on mate, she's a woman.Quote:
Originally Posted by griffin
I wonder if she'll be like Tennant and have love interests with the opposite gender. :D Or she'll be like Katie Perry :D (too much for TV).
If she's another Clara I would complain
The youtube video announcement.
I was trying to do it like announcing a new born... congratulations, it's a girl... but it didn't really work. :oQuote:
Originally Posted by SMHFConvoy
I think the writers won't be able to resist looking at some old relationships under the new gender dynamic, as there have been quite a few openly gay and lesbian characters in Dr Who, Torchwood and Class (which had an actual gay sex scene), and this would technically be the first transgender character as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by jazzcomp
Alex Kingston seems to be happy with the news, so even though last year's Christmas Story was supposed to be their last time together, I think the writers would love to see how River would treat her husband, errr, wife.
I'm not happy they've chosen to do this.
What's the point of it? Because they can?
My biggest reason for not liking this is simple. I'm tired of gender and/or race swapping. It's pure laziness.
I've read so many comments online today, how great it is, how it's another step for women.
You know what was a big step for female actors? When they created Romana. She was The Doctors equal. The writers created a whole new character. And she was great.
And when they wanted to change The Master up, they didn't swap his gender, they created a new character, The Rani.
Imagine the outcry if they brought Romana back, not as Romana, but a male called Roman.
Somewhere along the way DW lost it's originality and pioneering. It's become less sci-fi and more social statement. The declining ratings demonstrate that many people aren't impressed.
I won't stop watching, I'll gladly give the next season a watch, and I have faith that they've cast well, what I REALLY hope though is they give her great stories. Less social statement, more sci-fi.
So Burn, you're basically this guy:
Grown man outraged at lack of continuity in children’s show about phone-booth driving space detective
As a classic DW fan, I'm not crazy about the gender change either, but expected it as the calls for it were growing louder and louder in the last few years. (especially after the Master changed gender)
And the new era DW has been breaking so many bounderies and bringing in a lot of radical new concepts that the classic era would never have done (like allowing for wholesale deaths of innocents, just to be more "realistic"... but this is science FICTION - it was great because it wasn't real with including excessive killing, or torment and pain of named/known characters being killed off every episode).
Dr Who was something kids like me (and the generation before) would watch and be inspired to solve problems and use imagination, particularly if you lacked the physical aptitudes of your peers who treated you differently because of your intellect... it was an escape to feel like you related to a hero that was also intellectual. With the new era of DW dealing with gay (and now transgender) issues, it could give those people a hero to relate to as well.
This is something new, that I think fits in with the new era philosophy of DW, and as such, I'm willing to see how it will turn out.
If it doesn't appeal or work out, there is still 54 years of DW for those fans who don't like it, to fall back on.
And if they didn't do it eventually, the vocal elements of the fandom and clickbait media will keep badgering the writers and BBC until they do.
doesn't that also sum up all the haters of the bayverse movies :)?Quote:
Originally Posted by SMHFConvoy
either way doctor who isn't just for kids...just like this forum isn't just for kids (look at the subject matter haha).
I dont' watch doctor who...but doing stuff like this hurts the product. Look at marvel and how well their social pandering is doing for their sales.
https://thefederalist.com/2017/04/25...hurting-sales/
You can watch the guy below go thru the comics, give his view about it and he'll rip them up at the end if they deserve it ;).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBJON9uZ_Kg
diversity works if it's done right, but these days it's just shoehorned without much care.Quote:
Originally Posted by griffin
Jodie Whitaker is a pretty class act thou, so i'm hoping the script is good, if it is, i may even dabble in some doctor who, then watch the 10th doctor for Karen Gillan :D.
So they made a good choice, but you're not happy with it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Burn
I don't see what the issue is, or why people would think this is shoehorned in. I like Peter Capaldi and most of the previous doctors enough, but after over a decade of the modern Dr Who a lot of episodes are starting to get repetitive and dull. Recasting the Master was the best part of the last two seasons for me. The Doctor's been a collection of English white dudes from young to old time for something a bit different.
I recall talking to a female Dr Who fan about the time Matt Smith was cast, and the subject of the Doctor ever being a Woman or black came up, she didn't think it was possible that a woman would ever play the Doctor, but there you go.
Personally I wanted Richard Ayoade to be Dr Who.
Agreed, just because it's a kids show doesn't mean it can't be appreciated by older people, it doesn't stop me, a 40yo watching it. The idea of a female Doctor isn't new, the idea was floated when Tom Baker was leaving.Quote:
Originally Posted by yoshi594
Doctor Who isn't a flipping religion it's a flipping intellectual property and if the BBC wants to change something that it owns then so be it. I'll still watch it, Broadchurch is f*cking brilliant, Doctor Who is in safe hands.
I think some fans (many/few) have dropped a bit with Capaldi (older doctor and running) :D. Let's see how they can keep the fans with the gender change.
I admit I'm new to Dr Who and started watching with the 9th Doctor so I'm not the targetted audience for this issue.
An ABC tv newsreader/presenter pulled out all stops to give the:
Knock, knock
Who's there?
Doctor
Well you know how it ends.
Oh Doctor Allistair, good timing, and thank you for coming at such short notice!Quote:
Originally Posted by Megatran
That was it wasn't it?
As for this whole thing, just like everything else these days, it would be better if they didn't make such a big deal about the gender. The next doctor is a woman! Really? The doctor is the doctor, grow up. Damn progressive society has progressed back to segregation days. It's such a social middle finger outrage to see a woman! Oh noes! take that imaginary foes! It's a statement, that no one would really care about if it wasn't being used as some sort of weapon.
Noone gave a flying frig that Ripley is a woman. The strongest female example that no one knew about, but they watched many times.
Not at all. I didn't react with anger. I reacted with disappointment. In fact, I find the insinuation quite insulting.Quote:
Originally Posted by SMHFConvoy
It's been a few days since the announcement and I've read many, MANY comments across various websites.
That link you shared? That's been the common reaction to ANYONE who doesn't like the decision. All those comments I read, many people who disagreed with the decision stated their reasons in a diplomatic manner, both men and women, and the response 9 times out of 10 from those who support the decision was to insult and ridicule them.
I've come to terms with the casting, and yeah, I am interested to see how she turns out, there's a very good chance I'll enjoy it. But reading the comments, the insults, the slander, the general vitriol that's come from it, that's been the worst thing about this casting.
It's not BBC's fault, it's not Whittaker's fault, it's the fault of the fans who can't accept differing opinions.
And honestly, not even those who dislike Michael Bay have resorted to attacking their fellow fans like that!
I'm totally cool with this. Kudos to the BBC for trying something different with the franchise, as opposed to Michael Bay who fails to give us anything new with the TF film franchise after 10 years. :rolleyes: Nothing ventured nothing gained.
In the beginning perhaps. And in those early days I did defend the movie saying that just because it's different doesn't mean it's bad and that we should give the movie a chance before we judge it. And even to this day, none of my criticisms of Bayformers is due to, "Because it's different." I dislike Bayformers just because it's crap story-telling. I don't mind drastically different if it's good, e.g. Beast Wars. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by yoshi594
I'm cool with the idea of the Doctor becoming female and I'm excited to see what it brings, but as with any new Doctor I'll reserve my final judgement until after I watched at least the first season. :)
Let's wait for the ratings. :)
From in universe POV when a Time Lord regenerates the body is basically rolling a bunch of dice in a genetic lottery for their next appearance. Hair colour, skin colour, gender, height, eye colour and even age (as they don't regenerate as newborns). As far as gender is concerned, it's as if their bodies are flipping a coin each time they regenerate. Imagine that it's head for male and tails for female. The Doctor has flipped "heads" fourteen times so far. Those are already incredibly amazing odds. The fact that s/he's scored "tails" on the fifteenth flip is hardly surprising. The coin toss was seriously looked rigged.
But the ethnic appearance one is even weirder. With gender you've got 1:2 odds, so as unlikely as it is, it's also more likely that you might get fourteen "heads." Of course, 'race' is more of a social construct and it's highly subjective as to how many 'races' exist, but just for the sake of this discussion, let's say there's 10 types:
01 White (e.g. Anglo-Celtic appearance)
02 Yellow (East Asian appearance)
03 Olive (Mediterranean appearance)
04 Brown (South Asian appearance)
05 Middle Eastern appearance
06 Black (African appearance)
07 Pacific Islander appearance
08 Indigenous Australian appearance
09 Native American appearance
10 Latin American appearance
This means that each time a Time Lord regenerates, s/he's rolling a 10 sided die. We've seen other characters like River Song and the General roll 1s and 2s. The Doctor has thus far only rolled all 1s. Take 1D10, roll it 15 times and see if you can get fifteen 1s in a row. Heck, try it with a 6-sided die if you don't have 1D10. Imagine playing Monopoly and rolling nothing but snake eyes! :D
I welcome more diversity for Time Lords simply because it mathematically makes more sense. :o
The sexism is hilarious. It's sad, too. But, luckily, mostly hilarious. I thought a bunch of adults, that collect childrens toys would react more reasonably and for the most part, I was really impressed with this place and some others.
I'm super excited for Whittaker and can't wait to see what she does. The show and the role are in safe hands, I believe. Also had more people ask me about Doctor Who than I can ever remember being interested.