MIB and MISB, big difference?

MISB has a large difference to MIB. Personally I am not too fond of buying second hand toys, it's kind of an OCD cleanliness type thing for me.

Whenever I do buy a MIB/second hand toy I have to give it a wipe over. So, I would prefer MISB, but even then you risk the possibility of it missing a bit from the factory, which I had with a Revoltech I picked up. Luckily I managed to fix it myself, but unless you keep it MISB, that is a risk you can run I guess.

For example, I bought a MIB figma figure. The box and figure were both in excellent condition, however the figure reeked of cigarette smoke. I would not class that as MIB due to the smell, but from looking at the figure on the internets it looked fine and it no matter how many photos one looks at of it, it will always look MIB, but it certainly doesn't SMELL MIB.

So I ended up having another look around and found a MISB one, and it was a beautiful time for all (especially me). However, now it isn't MISB, but is is a closer MIB than the first one.:D

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Originally Posted by Tetsuwan Convoy

MISB has a large difference to MIB. Personally I am not too fond of buying second hand toys, it's kind of an OCD cleanliness type thing for me.

Whenever I do buy a MIB/second hand toy I have to give it a wipe over. So, I would prefer MISB, but even then you risk the possibility of it missing a bit from the factory, which I had with a Revoltech I picked up. Luckily I managed to fix it myself, but unless you keep it MISB, that is a risk you can run I guess.

For example, I bought a MIB figma figure. The box and figure were both in excellent condition, however the figure reeked of cigarette smoke. I would not class that as MIB due to the smell, but from looking at the figure on the internets it looked fine and it no matter how many photos one looks at of it, it will always look MIB, but it certainly doesn't SMELL MIB.

So I ended up having another look around and found a MISB one, and it was a beautiful time for all (especially me). However, now it isn't MISB, but is is a closer MIB than the first one.:D

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Who knew smoking on your toys could stain them with the smell (but then again I don't smoke near my toys, don't want the ashes falling onto them in the first place...)

One of the most daft things about MISB toys are ones with no window. I'd much rather have a MIB Grand Maximus and actually know I have a Grand Max in there than have a MISB one that could just be a box with random crap inside that some dodgy bloke has subtly sealed with stickytape.

I myself consider it a complete waste of time buying MISB G1 items or any older hard to get items as I know I'm going to de-value them when they reach me by playing open sesame:D. Seems like a complete waste of time buying a transforming toy just to leave it sealed in a box never to be transformed:confused:. whatever floats your boat I suppose:)

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Originally Posted by 1orion2many

I myself consider it a complete waste of time buying MISB G1 items or any older hard to get items as I know I'm going to de-value them when they reach me by playing open sesame:D. Seems like a complete waste of time buying a transforming toy just to leave it sealed in a box never to be transformed:confused:. whatever floats your boat I suppose:)

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Agreed. I don't care about MISB or MIB I want my toys & I want to do with them what I wish.

I understand that there are serious people who are willing to pay ridiculous money for MISB toys to never get played with. That is fine but for me it would be like saying I have insert Pamela Anderson in her prime but I have never touched her. I would prefer to have Pamela Anderson who is a little shopworn who I can at least have fun playing with ;)

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Originally Posted by SkyWarp91

Who knew smoking on your toys could stain them with the smell

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Smoking stinks up everything - so naturally your toys would stink of tobacco too if the smoke touches them. Smokers may not be aware of them since... well let's face facts, their sense of smell isn't as acute. You might want to ask a non-smoker if they can smell any tobacco scent on your toys. ;)

The worse thing about tobacco smell is that you can't see it. I've heard many stories from people who've seen photos of toys that look like they're in great condition, but when they get them they stink of ciggies, and the seller doesn't mention it because they think a smelly toy doesn't count as devaluing it. I once heard someone say, "If you bought something that smells like dog $#!+, would you say it was in mint condition?"

Apparently there's ways to get rid of the smell, like sticking in the fridge with an open box of bicarb soda for several hours or days. But what a hassle!

Again - you don't get this problem when you buy your toys sealed! And buying toys sealed is affordable when you buy them when they're current! :cool:

It's a bit hard to buy the toys when they are current if when G1 was out you were sitting in your mothers womb, this doesn't of course include me:D but we do have a lot of collectors which were to young to have got them new off the shelf and are now having to use the second hand market;):)

MISB/MOSC is clearly much different value wise than MIB.

I often joke about that sticky tape, but it makes all the difference. MISB means the toy has never been "used" or removed from the packaging and that is straight from the factory. Very significant factor. I see it like driving a car off the lot. As soon as its driven off, it loses so much % value based on that factor, just like tearing that piece of tape on the box.

The only downside of MISB is where one cannot examine what is in the box, especially the condition, and whether there are any qc issues..I can just imagine buying some of the current hasbro figures 10 years down the line misb..unless you are keeping it misb, that broken wreckgar? good luck.

My idea of mint is that the figure, regardless of its removal or how it was treated, comes to me in mint form (there are varying degrees, but that is the main point). That means the joints are tight, no marks or scratches that a misb toy would not have, no wear or discolour.

MIB, imo is higher value than a loose fig, but depends on the figure. I couldn't give 2 craps about the current packaging of Hasbro stuff, i.e. universe voyagers... box or no box.. I don't care too much. Takara boxes, I value. The condition of the box is also a significant factor.

As for G1, this issue is not debatable. Boxes/inserts themselves cost money. Hell, even sticker sheets and paperworks are highly valued. Fort Max's sticker sheet alone is worth a pretty penny- not to mention the box. I remember reading on HD's blog that for a certain figure, a good and mint box was more expensive than the figure itself. And all these with good reason. To me, G1 figures are not only toys, they are pieces of art, and are incomplete without the box/paperworks. The supply/demand of minty g1 boxes skewered towards scarcity, only emphasizes the value of MIB vs loose. (From experience, the average kid tends to rip the packaging apart to get to the toy.)

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Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime

You might want to ask a non-smoker if they can smell any tobacco scent on your toys. ;)

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Wanna come over and sniff my toys :eek:

Note that some boxed toys don't have sticky tape - even when brand new. It's very rare, but happens sometimes. e.g. Shadow Striker and Roulette. Even though I got mine new mint in box, my Shadow Striker was missing her weapons because they must've fallen out because the box was never sealed. :(

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Originally Posted by 5FDP

Wanna come over and sniff my toys :eek:

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As long as I don't have to sniff your computer chair. ;)