Death's Head of Transformers UK fame is back! (spoiler alert)

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Originally Posted by Sky Shadow

Death's Head was a non-transforming, non-Transformer robot from the future who was blown up to Cybertronian size and became a bounty hunter. He was then sent to 2007ish by The Doctor. (From Doctor Who. No, really.) Death's Head then timetravelled back to 1987 to hunt for Galvatron but was prematurely sent back to 2007 by Wreck-Gar. He then hunted Rodimus Prime, but Prime paid Death's Head more to hunt Cyclonus and Scourge instead. Death's head then defeated Unicron (with a bit of help) and travelled through time again. He met The Doctor again, who shrank him back down to human size using The Master's Tissue Compression Eliminator and sent him to 8162. Where he did lots of stuff with lots of people, none of it directly related to Transformers.

Death's Head II was originally Minion, a cyborg from 2020 who was an amalgamation of personalities owing to him sucking the skills out of a variety of people, but when he tried to do it to Death's Head, DH's personality became the dominant one. (Supposedly, although he stopped liking money and bounty hunting and became a hero instead. He didn't have anything to do with Transformers. Well... only very indirectly... like... he did some uncanonical stuff with Spider-Man just like Gears and Megatron did some uncanonical stuff with Spider-Man.)

Death's Head III is a cyborg from the 22nd century who allegedly precedes Death's Head (I). He didn't hang around with Transformers.

And there's even more time travel involved than just the bits I mentioned.

(Oh - and S.W.O.R.D. is an awesome comic - Kieron Gillen is a legend.)

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Death's Head was all sorts of awesome in the Marvel UK-verse. :D

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Originally Posted by Seraphim Prime

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Originally Posted by Sky Shadow

Well... only very indirectly... like... he did some uncanonical stuff with Spider-Man just like Gears and Megatron did some uncanonical stuff with Spider-Man.

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They all regretted it the next morning...

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Eww.

Technically it is in continuity. Transformers was originally intended to occur in Marvel's Earth-616 (the "main" Marvel universe at the time) but after #3 it became apparent that it wasn't; especially because of Nick Fury's refusal to battle Godzilla. Transformers occurs in Marvel's Earth-91274 and Earth-120185, both of which, as far as Transformers continuity is concerned, are really the same universe. The two universes exist simply because Marvel US created Earth-91274 whereas Marvel UK created Earth-120185, but as we all know, the Marvel UK Transformers stories are really an expansion of the Marvel US stories (just like how the Clone Wars series is an expansion of the Star Wars movies and not a separate reality). At first one could have argued that Earth-91274 was G1 _without_ all the extra events that occured on Earth-120185, but that would've all been retconned after #56 when Simon Furman took over from Bob Budiansky in writing the Marvel US Transformers comics, after which he essentially fused Marvel US continuity with Marvel UK (e.g. the Matrix Quest could not have occured on Earth-91274 if not for events that occured on Earth-120185 (e.g.: Deathbringer)). And certain contradictions between the two (e.g.: Earthforce Saga) have since been retconned as being in alternate realities.

I personally consider Earths 91274 and 120185 as being the same universe anyway. Oh yeah, and G.I. Joe also exists in this universe(s) (although in Earth-120185 they're called Action Force, which is what Hasbro marketed G.I. Joe as in the UK).

Could we merge this thread with the one I started? My thread didn't include the character's name because it was a spoiler for the S.W.O.R.D. comic but that comic has been out for a while now.

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Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime

especially because of Nick Fury's refusal to battle Godzilla.

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Also Godzilla does exist in 616 you just can't say the name anymore. IIRC Nick Fury, in Transformers #3, was complaining that if Godzilla was back he didn't want to have to deal with it again.

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Originally Posted by Sky Shadow

Death's Head was a non-transforming, non-Transformer robot from the future who was blown up to Cybertronian size and became a bounty hunter. He was then sent to 2007ish by The Doctor. (From Doctor Who. No, really.) Death's Head then timetravelled back to 1987 to hunt for Galvatron but was prematurely sent back to 2007 by Wreck-Gar. He then hunted Rodimus Prime, but Prime paid Death's Head more to hunt Cyclonus and Scourge instead. Death's head then defeated Unicron (with a bit of help) and travelled through time again. He met The Doctor again, who shrank him back down to human size using The Master's Tissue Compression Eliminator and sent him to 8162. Where he did lots of stuff with lots of people, none of it directly related to Transformers.

Death's Head II was originally Minion, a cyborg from 2020 who was an amalgamation of personalities owing to him sucking the skills out of a variety of people, but when he tried to do it to Death's Head, DH's personality became the dominant one. (Supposedly, although he stopped liking money and bounty hunting and became a hero instead. He didn't have anything to do with Transformers. Well... only very indirectly... like... he did some uncanonical stuff with Spider-Man just like Gears and Megatron did some uncanonical stuff with Spider-Man.)

Death's Head III is a cyborg from the 22nd century who allegedly precedes Death's Head (I). He didn't hang around with Transformers.

And there's even more time travel involved than just the bits I mentioned.

(Oh - and S.W.O.R.D. is an awesome comic - Kieron Gillen is a legend.)

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My head hurts now just from reading that......

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Originally Posted by Paulbot

Also Godzilla does exist in 616 you just can't say the name anymore. IIRC Nick Fury, in Transformers #3, was complaining that if Godzilla was back he didn't want to have to deal with it again.

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I thought that's what I'd said. :/ At any rate, it's what I meant. Apologies if it came across otherwise.

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Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime

especially because of Nick Fury's refusal to battle Godzilla.

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"If that big green, fire-snortin' lizard is loose again, I quit!" - Nick Fury (Transformers, "Prisoner of War!")

This series is well and truly one of Marvel's best comics. I just had a couple of thoughts.

1.) since S.W.O.R.D. is set in the present (2009-2010) amusingly, from a liner time perspective, it occurs after all his 'future' stories in Transformers UK (2007-2008).

2.) but Death's Head is a time-and-dimension-traveller. He's really big in this story (thus it must predate Doctor Who Magazine #135 when he was shrunk down) and Beast suggests that instead of 'Bounty Hunter' or 'Personal Recovery Specialist', Death's Head should call himself a 'Freelance Peacekeeping Agent'. And Death's Head likes the name. At first I thought this was a mistake. But... I think this is a 'Casino Royale' for Death's Head - for him it occurs before his stories in Transformers UK.

Which is pretty cool.

Oh, I completely missed out of this and only became aware of it now :(

I hope the comic is still available someplace.

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Originally Posted by kup

Oh, I completely missed out of this and only became aware of it now :(

I hope the comic is still available someplace.

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Issue #4 just came out and unfortunately #5 is the last issue, so you could either get them as singles or hope for a trade. Either way it's worth getting as a Death's Head fan - it's not just a cameo, he's pretty much the third-main character in the series.

Thanks for the information.

I will wait for the trade. As a Marvel UK Death's Head fan - This is a must buy.

A preview of #5:

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?p...607&disp=table

And an editorial/interview about the end of the series:

http://comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=25050