Thanks Zed & Tibby. I'll take it back and swap it this week.
I couldn't agree more. Pardon the cheesy phrase, but it's such a revolution as opposed to an evolution.
I can't wait to put them behind glass.
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Check out the Lockdown review by peaugh on youtube (i can't link atm), he details how you can fix the QC issue - seems pretty simple.
Awesome. I've seen it (and all his reviews), but I'll go back and look.
I love his reviews because they're so concise. There's another reviewer that starts each review with the matrix, prime helmet and some stupid quote and he just waffles for 10 minutes every time. I can't take it.
Yes, but at least from my experience with Lockdown, there not actualy anymore articulated than my favourte Movie or Classic toys. They do have a action figure look in bot mode though, but If I was after an action figure Id rather buy one based on a character I like.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tiby
As for the line itself, I was looking at the bot modes and thought: "These are really cool action figures. They actually look like they can do things, without any obvious "block" parts to stop them".
Like I said My main problem with Animated is the cartoon series, the toys themselves are fine I don't think there any better or worse than the last 2 years of TF's, I just don't have a huge impulse to buy them all cause I haven't gotten into the show.
Nonetheless I want to get a few samples. ;)
As you guys have mentioned, The hands of my Lockdown don't want to swing the full 180 degrees either - 150 degrees or so is all they'll go :rolleyes:.
Oh well, If his hands don't wanna swing open the full way - I'm not gonna force them. :p
Oh yes, I hate that joe too. Can't stand him
Courtesy of Paulbot, I was fortunate enough to have a play with Deluxe BB today. He -is- an amazingly good figure. They really amaze me from a technical point of view. I do agree his paint apps are poor though. Heck, the Activator BB that Paulbot today had better paint apps then him.
Though I'm getting more excited about TFA, I must concede I do hope they stay away for a few more weeks so I can sought out a few necessities.
Played with Bumblebee the 2 pack figures and Lockdown last night, and I am overa-ll very impressed. The transformations are simply, yet not overly so.
Bumblebee is the weakest of the line thus far, and I think he will remain there. The feet, stingers and paint apps are not up to par with the rest of the figures I have.
Bulkhead is still my favourite though, but 2 pack Prime is mighty spiffy, only that stupid rotating waist gimmick ruins him, but twisting him around a few times seems to unlock the punch action. Same with Megatron. His Cybertronian mode is very weak, but he is a very nice looking figure otherwise.
So has anyone figured out what the traffic light with Prowl is all about?
So far I have only seen the "premiere" of the show. I just haven't managed to view the rest yet. But I really like the toys in themselves. Now I am worried that the rest of the show may put me off :(
Oh well, if I can cope with Headmasters and Masterforce (just barely), I'm sure I can cope with the weird storylines in Animated I have heard about.
I think the point of the traffic light with Prowl is that he is able to use anything as a weapon, with his mastery of Circuit-Su
The storylines in Animated aren't exactly weird, they're just different from previous TF series. It's not like it's the TF version of Neon Genesis Evangelion. :p
Oh, that guy. I watch his reviews, since he has some stuff that peaugh doesn't have (like Snarl) but he just sounds so pathetic. Especially "What up Transformer fans". No-one SAYS 'What Up' anymore (except him).
I love voyager bulk head and starscream so far,
haven't opened cybertron mode voyager megs though.. don't think i will.
I don't know why you guys don't like starscream, he's ace! love his robot mode. His alt mode is a bit strange, but I like how they even added the automorph feature in starscream still. love :)
gripe: wish he had show accurate arm cannons :(
One thing i love about both: Not that many twisty ties!!! Yaaaay
I really like Starscream too - i happened to notice this Macross PLUS 1/60 YF-19 looks very similar in the legs, and if the chest folded up on Starscream, it'd look similar there too! Perhaps SS was partly inspired by this toy?
And also... while he certainly has faults, Voyager Megs does have good points too, but yes, almost all of them in robot mode. His alt mode can look like a bucket of bolts, but at the same time, the little flaps at the back, and on the sides, can move around into different positions. You may find there's a position that makes him look better to you than the official pics. I could imagine some younger kids having fun 'using their imagination' with the moving pieces, moreso than Starscream, who's quite static in his alt mode.
Probably just to make up extra bulk in the pack with it being a smaller toy than the rest of the deluxes. Hasbro said they did that with Cybertron Scattorshot (the basic sized one) by adding the extra large backpack to bring it up to similar volume/mass to the basic range.
The traffic lights are pretty meaningless and is just a block of plastic, but could be what is substituted for the armour in the next release.
Is it possible to align Cybertron Prime w/out the gaps? I've tried and tried but have no hope it seems.
Align what? The back legs? You need the gap for the axe. Or do you mean the cockpit? Should be no gaps there. Be specific.
Sorry, gaps for the cockpit/front b/n the front windscreen and the arms. .
It can indeed be done gap free. However, with all the recent QC complaints, this might be a specific issue for you. Bring your figure on Sunday.
Well I have all the first wave apart from BB and the twin pack and I think they're all mostly good.
Only thing that really p's me off is that lack of attention to scale (which is consistent with mostly all TF lines).
They seem pretty solid. Would have liked Lockdown's grey parts to be in chrome though.
Just took 10 minutes to type up my thoughts on each of the Wave 1 toys but the board has already logged me out (so quick) and I'vé lost all my typing. :o
A good browser shouldn't lose that when hitting the back button. Perhaps a browser upgrade is in order?
Did you put a link in it & forgot to take out the "http"?
I've done that before, clicked on preview, gotten the error screen, clicked on back & found that what I've written is vanished... :rolleyes:
Damn these freakin' bugs...
:l
I'm wondering if any of the [currently] three of us who voted, "Refuse to buy them." have given in yet? Anyone care to admit or deny?
Yeah I bought Prowl. No plans to buy any others.
Yes :o, the Naysayer that was Pulse has Lockdown, BB, Blackarachnia & will have Jazz in his posession on Monday (My BBTS package has cleared customs :)) but those 4 will do me.
I've picked up three so far and think Lockdown is a completely brilliant toy, awesome car mode and such an impressively sized and unique bot folds out of it. I'm happy with Starscream too, despite a lot of visible robot parts in plane mode. It's certainly an interesting plane design. Bumblebee, however, is a huge disappointment, terrible paint, annoying transformation, bot proportions all wrong, stingers won't retract properly. Two out of three ain't bad I guess.
I find it funny Lockdown has a deluxe size vehicle mode but an impressive "voyager size" robot mode, while Bulkhead has a voyager size vehicle mode but only deluxe size robot mode... (well in terms of height anyway) :p
Yeah, scale is a regular bone of contention with collectors, but I think Hasbro scales based on the mode products are shipped in. If, say like Henkei, Animated shipped in Robot mode, Lockdown and Bulkhead's classes would probably be swapped.
I’ve had the all the individual figures from the first wave a couple of weeks and I really, really like them.
I got the 2 pack the other day and I like that too. I did have a problem with a cracked arm on bumble bee but exchanged it and I like the figure a bit more now. I’ll be trying my best to afford them all as more are released.
I think I like starscream the most and probably bumble bee the least, I think I'll like him more when I get Voyager prime and some bigger Autobots. Scale isn't that much of an issue with me usually but he just seems to solid in build compared to the others I have.
I am really digging them at the moment. I love the mat colouring in both paint and plastic. Some very interesting transformations going on too. Blackarachnia is my second favourite spider (next to TM Tarantulus) as she looks great for a ckikky-bot. Lockdown is well done and Prowl has some great articulation! Scale doesn't bother me so much, if they were more in scale, Bumblebee would be too fiddly for my adult sized hands.
Oh forgot to add, they have some great lightpiping going on in their eyes! Love IT!
Still haven't recieved my Voyagers yet... Customs seem to want to play with them...:mad: They can get their own!
I finally figured out what I was doing wrong with Bumblebee: not lifting the bottom of his boot up before transforming him into robot mode makes turning him back into car mode difficult. With it raised before transforming I no longer have trouble getting his legs back in the right place for car mode.
Nice one. I noticed the same thing today. Additionally, even if you forgot to fold it on the way to robot mode, when going back to car mode, with the bumper out of site, you can flick the lever on the opposing side to get it into position.
I -hate- Animated Starscream with a vengeance. Absolutely. The goddamn legs never stop falling off and it makes poseability which is a pain to begin with even worse b/c the legs are so hopelessly loose. I've developed the ability to meticulously transform him such that the legs don't fall off but when that type of precaution has to be taken it ruins the fun of the toy and the transformation sequence.
About the transformation sequence, pretty damn easy. The automorph is very cool but it takes out a lot of steps and makes the rest of the transformation absolutely boring. The arms can also fall off at the elbow in transformation too and then there are those two clips at the back. A very irritating "Transformer" if u want to call it that. You might as well treat it like Omega Supreme. Rip him apart and stick him back together for robot mode! Voila! :rolleyes: Problem is, Omega holds together 100 times better than Starscream ever will.
Articulation in the arms is great but the legs are crap, the head doesn't even rotate. Nice lightpiping but this is the first TF since Armada toys/moulds that I've bought that doesn't have that point of articulation. Bleeping lazy. But that could've been overlooked if he doesn't crumble apart so easily. As much as I look forward to completing the Seekers here as I always do, it'll only be b/c they're Seekers. It's going to be a pain.
This is a terrible TF. Sure, BB's yellow is fugly and those blades don't go in, but Starscream takes the cake for being a sh*t toy. For everything I've seen in Animated so far this toy drops the ball on so many levels.
Activator Starscream is quite nice though. Collect the seekers in that size?
I'll buy them either regardless. :D
I shld mention I just discovered the head articulation. My bad. Still a terrible toy though.
Can anyone explain to me the cannon gimmicks again where the arm panels pop out? I remember Jaydisc showing them to me and thinking neat but now I'm just asking myself WTF?
Found a great pose here while looking for how dodgy they generally are or if it's just mine:
http://forums.tformers.com/talk/inde...post&p=1244513
But mine falls flat on its face as soon as I try it. :rolleyes: