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Do like the jet-cone back kibble! Aerialbots just won't be the same without it!
god these look good! my wallet is still bleeding from hercules, oh well ima gettin this guy too!Quote:
Originally Posted by Trent
Interesting how a lot of discussion on other forums has centred around what scale TFC will use. Same as Herc or a shift toward the Giant scale. From the look of that hand my guess is that they're sticking with their Herc scale. It looks way to big to be any smaller.
Could be wrong though.
Looking really good here :)
Hopefully not GIANT or HERCULES prices :(
That's looking pretty damn nice. I'd still rather a Superion in Giant / FP Bruticus scale but if one isn't announced before this becomes reality, I may well bite.
The jet modes in particular look really nice (I'm sure the underside is a mess) and a real departure from the blocky and uncharismatic vehicles of Hercules. Nice little details like seats etc go a long way for me.
You can see their undersides in their limb modes. Looks like the robots will collapses into a more or less flat brick that will sit on the underside of their plane modes just like the Classics line Seekers. Overall not that bad and certainly not messy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sutton
Looks good. Its going to cost me. Wondering what they will do with Silverbolt. He is larger so what will he cost.
Using the screw holes in the legs as a scale, these figs would be at least deluxe size. If Silverbolt is to scale with the limbs, then he's likely to be voyager sized? Looks like slimmer chances of TFC Superion being to scale with FP Bruticus :(:(Quote:
Originally Posted by VERT
First of all, it would be LUDICROUS for TFC to make a combiner out of scale with their own product.Quote:
Originally Posted by SuspectimusPrime
FP Bruticus is bigger than his Scout/Deluxe combination suggests he should be. Certainly much larger than his original Bruticus Maximus configuration. Maketoys Giant isn't really in scale with FP Bruticus either - he's a fair bit bigger and bulkier, if not a lot taller. TFC Hercules isn't astronomically bigger than MT Giant either. So scales are all over the place. Superion is generally a more 'thin' combiner than Devs as well.
Personally, my Autobots are in one display while my Cons are on another - the only time they generally come together is when my kids are playing with them, which is obviously not something I'd let them do with my expensive 3rd party toys.
Other collectors like their toy's alt modes to be comparable in scale. Because of the mass shifting involved with combiners, this is usually a bit of an issue (Blast-off and Groove can GTFO), but FP employed genius in using an unmanned drone for their Blast-off. Meanwhile Superion being all made up of planes, he should be bigger than Devs and Bruticus.
As much as I like things to scale well on the shelf, the main reason I went with Giant over Hercules was the aesthetic of the individual bots and vehicles - they're worth displaying in all three modes, while Herc's components were very boring bricks. These guys look a lot more interesting and well done than Herc's components though, so this guy could definitely end up in my collection.
Very interested to see what they do with Silverbolt. Hopefully they ditch the Concorde and go with something a little more military. Hopefully not something completely left field (like a B52 or a Chinook etc).
Giant does not seem to be that much bigger than FP Bruticus, they are still within the same scale as one another from the comparison pics we have seen. Hercules on the other hand, looks out of place with FP Bruticus as his proportions are much blockier and that bit of extra height does take him out of scale from Bruticus.
It's not so much scale that makes Hercules loom bigger it's his more blocky look as Kup pointed out, his bulkier body makes him look bigger and aesthetically different to Crossfire and Giant.
I'm not to concerned anyway about the scale and all that. While I would like him to be in scale with my existing toys getting to fixated on scale with transforming toys can only lead to disappointment. So I'll judge this product by its own merits. And most important for me will be can the toys stand on their own as individual toys.
Based on TFC StarQ prototype(which is a 5 bot combiner), Not-Superion might be the same size as MT Giant.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...88973228_n.jpg
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/...ireflight1.jpg
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/...4/airraid2.jpg
Some pretty awesome colour mockups put together by Necio of tfw2005.
Hopefully the actual colours look more like these than the teasers they released.
What is this starQ????Quote:
Originally Posted by ispayks
It's the 'other' combiner that TFC is planning on rolling out, and perhaps getting a Protectobot repaint. Based off an actual animation called Star Cat Rescue Team, who's combiner members resemble futuristic Protectobots.Quote:
Originally Posted by KalEl
Looks nice, but the final product will no doubt look nothing like that :(Quote:
Originally Posted by nofacej
Seems like a completely new creation to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by SuspectimusPrime
We'll see. There isn't a whole lot of detailing in those mockups so it's possible the real thing will resemble them pretty well but, like you, I also have my doubts given how bland the Hercules figures are.Quote:
Originally Posted by canofwhoopass_87
ahhhQuote:
Originally Posted by SuspectimusPrime
Indeed, if those mock-ups are even remotely close to the end result that would be 1. Amazing! :eek:, and 2. A damn recipe for success - They'd sell like hotcakes IMO but I'm still curious to see if they'll stick to their Hercules-established scale or if they'll downsize it for development cost reasons?... ;):cool:
They are pretty expensive when you compare to the FP Stunticons which are set to go for around $50.
I hope they don't end up as blocky and awkward looking like Hercules.
While I really want these guys, I will wait until the 2nd run/gisftset comes out. It seems that the people that preorder these are the test mules to work out any QC issues, which then get fixed for the 2nd run. Seems like the TFC business model.Quote:
Originally Posted by ispayks
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Originally Posted by kup
From what we've seem so far they look pretty good in Gestalt mode. However it will all hinge on how they make Silverbolt work.
Agreed, they're asking for FP Steel Core prices at this range.Quote:
Originally Posted by kup
I would like to see a height comparison for these two with normal deluxes. If the limb components are deluxe or larger, then Silverbolt would likely be the size of Universe Silverbolt.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trent
Which realistically is what they have to do to get the torso large enough. Remember that Herc and Giant torso is made up of 2 cons. Silverbolt has to be big enough to do it all on his own.Quote:
Originally Posted by SuspectimusPrime
All in good time.
I don't think it'll be blocky like Herc. Hard to do with pointy jets :DQuote:
Originally Posted by kup
The $80 pricetag ain't gona budge I reckon. At that rate, going to have to give this fella a miss. Prob end up costing some $450-$500 for this set.
Hmmm, how much were the Hercules Constrcuticons again? Seems like they are a little cheaper, still big ask if they are smaller than deluxe.
Oddly enough I'm still quite a bit tempted. I'm a sucker for jet robots, but I want to see a few more pics, and some coloured prototypes please TFC.
Hercules is still around $500-550 for the set. The individual bots are still $80 on RK and $90ish on eBay.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord_Zed
My value perception will depend on how these figs feel in-hand. People that attended TFCON have mentioned that FP Assaulter feels quite heavy. As Steel Core was asking for $70, then Assaulter may be between $70-100 considering his size. If TFC is asking for roughly the same for Silverbolt, then they should be delivering similar quality standards.
I think these may look better than my current Superion with the add-on kit from Fansproject, but I will give these a pass.
Need to save money for Menasor!
Indeed I now have a conundrum on my hands. Menasor will be mine. No question there. But how do I go about Superion??? I was gonna hold off and get the TFC one, but now I'm wondering which one will likely go better with the FP stunticons?? Scale wise TFC's might be a bit to big, Menasor might look better next to DOTM w/FP add on Superion.
:confused:
He'd be cheaper too. You see my dilemma.
I am on 'Wait and see' mode when it comes to TFC Superion. It's not a factor until we have more information in regards to size and sculpt style. This will determine if they can fit with classics or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trent
At this point, I am sticking to my FP upgraded Superion but if TFC's makes more reveals and it looks really good, then the game plan will change.
Out of curiousity, how tall is FP upgraded Superion? Menasor is gonna come in at 11.5 inches. From what ican gather superions a little shorter?
Comparison pics via Seibertron :):
http://www.seibertron.com/images/toy...0100417_63.jpg
I imagine Menasor probably will look more at home next to the upgraded Superion as they (the upgrade set and Menasor) will both be FP products.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trent
I feel pretty certain that TFC's Superion will be a bit bigger and the design aesthetic a little different to FP's.
Oddly enough this doesn't bother me so much as if the individual bots are good then I will get them, and so far it is looking good.
While I like the DOTM FP upgrade Superion, the individual robot components are all pretty terrible (except the A10ish one), so I'd rather a combiner composed oh cool looking robots hence why I chose Maketoys Giant over Hercules.
It seems like TFC may have increased their attention to detail on the individual robot toys compared to Hercules, we'll see though. if so though then I will be happy even if Superion is a bit bigger. He is made of jets and will need the extra heft as he will likely be out numbered 3 to one. :D
Hehe, I could totally replicate that shot... :p:DQuote:
Originally Posted by SuspectimusPrime
6 members? Crap. :(
Where does it say that?
http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/t...92162583_n.jpg
Apparently the writing on the board says he will be made up of six members...
Could it be a typo? - As I don't know how that'd even work, engineering-wise. :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sutton
Also, I think that is the 1st official photo of this upcoming set that has had actual coloured examples rather than the grey prototypes! :eek: