I think MP Megatron had a second release, and TakaraTomy would be factoring in the extra sales/demand from outside of Japan of MP Megatron to determine it's value overall.
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I think MP Megatron had a second release, and TakaraTomy would be factoring in the extra sales/demand from outside of Japan of MP Megatron to determine it's value overall.
While I am happy with a MP Wheeljack, I am surprised that it isnt Jazz just because of the amount of repaints that could come from it.
The only other repaint of Wheeljack will be Slicer (unless anyone else can think of one). Which if it does happen I will be buying it, as I am a bit of an MP whore :p
I'd buy Slicer over Wheeljack. I think they'd do a Marlboor Diaclone retool, since it's the equivalent of Tigertrack.Quote:
Originally Posted by MayzaPrime
They make an MP Megatron 2.0 half of the world will be mad cause we can't get our hands on it, but if they don't make it, the whole world'll be mad cause what's the point of an MP line without Megatron?:pQuote:
Originally Posted by Sky Shadow
Wheeljack will do alright, and Bumblebee as well!
I don't really think there a lot of choice for repaints for Wheeljack, but that doesn't matter. So hopefully they can move onto other things. Just going through some of the suggestions we have Slicer and a Diaclone homage. I remember seeing somewhere Cat mentioned using Sunstreaker. Ok so obviously different cars, but seems doable as the robot modes are similar. Following with this sentiment how about Runamuck and Roundabout, but again different car (Lotus Esprit) but robot mode transformation is similar. Im suggesting these could be exclusives, similar to how Tigertrack, Sunstorm and Nemesis Prime were. Runamuck and Roundabout would only work as 2 pack though.
Also touching on the Megatron Debate. I have a theory that they may do a G2 version of Megatron as a tank instead. A first release in G1 Colours first, then a 2nd release sometime later in green camouflage. Its a possible scenario, given that they are doing a G2 Sideswipe. To me it would be awesome, because I love tanks. Also it would cast aside that problem of having Megatron represented as a gun, whilst accurate has its setbacks.
Sorry this was a pretty long post :o
Technically TakaraTOMY aren't supposed to factor in demand from outside their market as per a contract they have with Hasbro where each party aren't allowed to "cross contaminate" each other's market. So they wouldn't be taking out-of-market demand into account (at least in theory).
I personally wouldn't want to see another MP Megatron because we already have one. And I personally don't need an MP Megatron to be in scale w/ the newer range. The main reason that I got Hasbro MP10 was because it came with the trailer and Roller (and Spike) and was considerably cheaper than the TakTOM version. Had it just been the cab/robot, even as a whole new mould, I would've skipped it. Same reason why I skipped the significantly retooled MP Starscream and Thundercracker... I don't see the need to "double up" on the same characters as MPs really. The only time I did that was with Starscream, because the Hasbro version's colours were that much better than Takara's (and I found it at RRP at TRU, and it turned out that they used better plastic too).
I might consider a new MP Megatron if it came with the gun extensions; but also depending on what price I could get him for. I doubt I'd pay full RRP for it. :/
Sorry, but a new MP Megatron is essential to me! The first version is really not very good in robot form. They need to produce a more solid/stable version without chicken legs that actually looks more like his cartoon counterpart. I'm hoping they can learn from the 3rd party versions that have been released in the past couple of years, even if it means sacrificing the gun mode's "realism"... we already have 2 realistic guns for people - time for a cartoon/comic accurate robot version!
MP10 is so much better than the first MP Prime (imo) so I'd like to see Megs get the same treatment!
I too want a new MP Megs. I never bothered to buy MP-05 simply because it's crap. Add the fact that it now looks silly and stands out like the proverbial against other MPs (particularly the Autobot cars), as well as the obvious demand and direction of the MP line, I'd be surprised if we don't see him.
Maybe they can redo some characters like Megatron after we've gotten MPs of the rest of the more iconic G1 characters? I'd rather see the MP line focus on giving us new characters who've never had the MP treatment before.
The third party Not-Megatron may have a more bulky robot mode, but it also has a bulky gun mode. But I suppose that if they were to make a new MP Megatron, then it would make sense for them to bulk up the robot mode more even if it may sacrifice the look of the gun mode; though hopefully no where near as badly as on Not-Megatron. Maybe somewhere in between MP Megatron and Not-Megatron (i.e. bulkier than MP Megs but not as bulky as Not-Meg... a sort of 'happy medium'). And to top things off perhaps they could include the barrel extension and stock, and have all the accessories combine into the gun emplacement. And I wouldn't necessarily want it to come with all the same extra accessories that the original MP Megatron came w/... just make the toy backward-compatible with the previous MP Megatron's accessories (e.g. can hold the same weapons, flail can be attached etc.) -- I'd like to see him come with some new accessories, like MP versions of the original G1 toy's rifle and sword.
I agree that there are other characters that should be done first, like Ultra Magnus:D. And the way the line is now I believe that Megatron would come with the U.N.C.L.E parts. But I doubt backwards compatibility for the fact that it assumes ownership of MP-05. Are MP-01/04 parts compatible with MP-10? I've never looked.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime
Hasui felt the same that's why we haven't seen Megs yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime
I'd really love to see Hasui's interpretation of MP Megatron. He perfectly followed through with the same cartoon-and-toy-accurate "Masterpiece" aesthetic Kobayashi had created and also managed to blend in his design style. Kobayashi was brilliant (what a talent! his first full-on design work with Takara after just graduating collage was Car Robot Speedbreaker, 'nuff said:eek:) but personally I prefer Hasui's style better now and I think he is perfect for the new MP direction. Looking at the differences between MP01 and MP10, I guess he will do whatever he can to give us a comlplete gun mode with all the beef-up parts. And with the new scale this time we may get a P-38 only slightly bigger than the G1 toy/real thing.
MP 01's gun's nearly as long as MP 10's leg :D You can however get MP10 to hold MP01's gun with a bit of manouvering, but it can be done, albeit very loosely. Looks great though with a great big honking gun!Quote:
Originally Posted by Trent
MP01's axe accessory on the other hand may prove slightly more difficult though as it operates on a clip system designed for the dimensions of MP01. Its about ~2mm short
Im hoping this to come true.... on the other hand it'll be a real B$@$$# getting the toy here as with the new smaller size, it is going to be a more accurate replica gun than MP05 was....:(:(:(Quote:
Originally Posted by doublespy
I hate Megatrons alt mode being a gun.
You'd have a whole bunch of cool vehicles sitting next to a gun bigger than they are.
They need to ditch the gun mode, and give us something else...the g2 tank perhaps.
I can live with that!!. It is simply less difficult to obtain the figure if it were of different altmode, but as the MP line is going for G1 accuracy , sigh. Im torn :p:o:(Quote:
Originally Posted by Demonac
It wouldn't be impossible to own an Megatron if he were to be released again. Granted in NSW for instance there'd be all the legal ownership issues to deal with, but it is achievable. If TT do decide on a G2 version i'd be happy with that also.Quote:
Originally Posted by liegeprime
Megatron is better off as a tank. Fact.
I'd be happy simply with a Grey/Silver iteration of a Tank (His G2 Alt-mode), much like Megatron is depicted in the 'Transformers: Legends' mobile game:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sinnertwin
http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/...ps80f55f27.jpg
I realise what works on a canvas doesn't necessarily translate to a 3 dimensional, tangible assembly of plastic - But if Hasui's work with the Transformers: Animated line is anything to go by, I think this look is totally achievable; the Bot mode looks almost exactly like the G1 show model and the Alt mode avoids an immense amount of legal hurdles. ;)
(Not to mention a whole list of other positives over a hand-gun)
Sure Takara aren't 'Supposed to consider foreign marketability due to contractual pollination clauses', but as if Hasbro and Takara aren't seriously considering this option? - Especially Hasbro, as they would definitely want a Masterpiece Megatron to market domestically. :cool:
(Especially factoring in the '30th Anniversary' marketing no-brainer :D)
...and let's face it, there is FAR greater repaint potential for a Tank-based MP Megatron than there ever would be for a Walther P-38 - Unless you guys REALLY want a chrome Orange & Blue oversized pistol in your collections? :p
A smaller size wouldn't make it any easier/harder to obtain than it already is. The law (and permit) covers all kinds of replica gun Transformers, regardless of size. G1 Megatron, Browning, eHobby Megaplex, MP Megatron etc. are all equally prohibited, and you only need the one permit that covers all those toys.Quote:
Originally Posted by liegeprime
IMO the original G1 Megatron toy is already pretty much perfect for the gun mode anyway. Any MP Megatron is gonna be oversized in gun mode anyway. I'd definitely take a G2 tank Megatron over another G1 gun Megatron for sure. :) He could come with a small Dr. Biggles-Jones figurine, similar to how MP10 came with Spike. TakaraTOMY don't seem adverse toward making Anglophone continuity references in some of their MP toys; e.g. crown for Grimlock, although admittedly that was a limited edition variant. Hmm...Quote:
Originally Posted by Demonac
I too love that design! Such brilliant use of some of the iconic G1 Megatron body parts to re-assemble as a tank. Especially like the chest panel as front of tank and the curved shin armors becoming sides of the turret. The transformation scheme is half way there and I bet some third party company is making this as we speak.:pQuote:
Originally Posted by Hursticon
Guess Megatron being a gun is a nostalgia thing. As pointed out in this thread the whole point of Masterpiece 2.0 is toon accuracy. G1 Megatron was indeed a hell of a faithful gun mode but the robot didn't look like Megs in the cartoon at all. I'd like to see a definite toon-accurate G1 Megs toy (MP10 is that definitive G1 Prime, hands down. MP01? not even close imo) and I think this is the draw of MP to many fans. And I'm really interested to see how Hasui pull it off when the time comes.
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Originally Posted by liegeprime
Omg, thank you. How are people still not getting that the Masterpiece line is all about G1? Yes, there are other figures released under the masterpiece line which represent other universes. But they are all repaints from the original mold used to represent the G1 character in the first place (eg: MP G2 Lambor.)Quote:
Originally Posted by doublespy
TT didn't release the figure with the intention of marketing it first as a G2 representation of itself. Having said all that, as nice as it might be, I highly doubt they will release a "G2" version of Megs and market it as a replacement for an original G1 representation of him. And if they do, then you can tell me to stick it :)
by the way, I'm aware they also released a couple of movie figures under the masterpiece line, but they were sub-headed with an "M" before the designated number - separating them from the main masterpiece line - and they were released by Hasbro first AFAIK, not TT.
(I probably should have put this in the vent thread lol)
Don't see why so many people are knocking MP5 Megs for it's time it's a very ambitious MP and goes great with MP1/4. The waist up is perfect sure the legs could be thicker but that's hard to pull off being the gun handle. The one thing I don't like about MP5 is the material his feet are made of. I've seen 5xMP5's and all of them have a discoloration on the feet one so bad it's going green.
Personally I'd love a new MP Megs in the same scale as MP20 Prime and it should be a gun with UNCLE attachments. G2 Tank would look so out of place with my current MP's. Besides we almost have all the S1 Decepticons baring Megs, Shockwave and Reflector. Would also like updated Skywarp/Thundercracker (I don't like the Hasbro TC). But I guess they want to do all the S1 cars before they do more Decepticons.
That's the point. His size is all wrong compared to all but 1 other MP (granted MP-01 was repainted a bazillion times but that's beside the point). He has chicken legs and rusts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nevac
So why would I pay an exorberant amount of money for this MP when it's almost a given that another, updated version will come out down the track?
Or Galvatron. Considering the current MP lines roster isnt sticking to the mantra of Season 1 characters first - Red Alert & Smokescreen are both '85 cast members - why can't TT give MP09 Rodimus Prime a counterpart? We've seen how MP10 Optimus and MP09 Rodimus, not Hot Rod, Rodimus Prime scale together, i doubt a Galvatron will create an issue in that respect.
Well if you were collecting Transformers then he was a must get. If you're just starting now he's a tough sell I guess but he is Megatron and still the most cartoon accurate Megatron available at the moment. Might be a long time before we get a version 2 with all the Autobot bias at the moment.
He's still one of my favourites. I remember back in 2007 thinking what a great figure he was, not i'll wait until 2012 for the new Optimus to come out and how well it may scale with that. And yes, we definitely need more Decepticons. It wasn't "Autobots wage their battle their to destroy the evil forces of the F15 repaints and a walkman, naaa na na na naaaa The Transformers"Quote:
Originally Posted by Nevac
But TakaraTOMY's Masterpiece Online survey explicitly lists "G2 Optimus Prime" as a character that you can vote for to be made into a future Masterpiece toy. I'm presuming they mean Laser Optimus Prime as opposed to just MP10 with purple-blue parts and a black trailer. :/Quote:
Originally Posted by ITZTRU
And the other Masterpiece survey includes Optimus Primal, Lio Convoy, Big Convoy, Super Fire Convoy, plus the Armada, Energon and Cybertron Primes. (Mix of Japanese and Occidental names for clarity). So the reason why "people still not getting that the Masterpiece line is all about G1" is because it's not.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime
If those "fan voted" figures are released with the title of MP-22 or MP-23 only and not something like MP-M01 Starscream (Movie line) or MP-12T Tigertrack (repaint of original G1 character Lambor), which separate them into sub classifications from the original Masterpiece line then I will stand corrected.
The only one who stands out is MP-02 Magnus. And yeah - I admit...I can't give explanations for that figure. But it's a blatant obvious repaint. And every other repaint after that has had another letter added to the characters MP title to separate them from the mainline which then set the new trend for sub line masterpiece figures.
TT's way of sucking up to fans for the 30th anniversay.:p
More variety in the MP line is obviously a good thing. But for some the fan vote characters scale may be a problem. Scale was the main reason they revamped the line to begin with and say if fans picked God Ginrai, Ginrai as the Godmaster that transforms into the engine block of the truck would be too big as a human with tech armor on. If MP10 and the potential MP God Ginrai are to be roughly the same size in truck mode, Ginrai would have to tower over Spike...(let alone God Ginrai could be a freaking expensive toy) Just my random geeky thoughts though:D
If scale is actually an issue and let's face it, scale and TFs rarely go hand in hand. They could cheat a little bit, make Ginrai in his armour only part of the engine block if need be and there ya go.Quote:
Originally Posted by doublespy
However, I suspect that Spike with MP 10 isn't in scale anyway so it may well just be a moot point.
God Ginrai would be a massive toy though. I'd still want one. But I bet the could probably give him an accurate look and keep the toy within reason with the other MPs.
The original Ultra Magnus was a repaint of Optimus Prime (well, the original Powered Convoy was a repaint of Battle Convoy), just with a different trailer that could also attach to become body armour. MP01 and MP02 were MP versions of only the cab robots, neither had the trailers. It's just that Ultra Magnus' trailer is more iconic as part of Ultra Magnus' look. But the original Ultra Magnus always was a white Optimus Prime.Quote:
Originally Posted by ITZTRU
...having said that, I skipped MP02, even when it was available here for $80 at Target. :p
Haha, sorry Gok - what I meant by not being able to explain the figure was why the MP-02 repaint was not given an extra letter on the end of it's MP title (eg: MP01-UM) just like the other repaints later in the MP line (eg: MP12-T, MP03-G), given that MP02 was a repaint of the Prime mold and NOT a depicted character in the G1 animated series as a "white" version of "OP" without his armor :)Quote:
Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime
Here's our first glimpse of MP-20 Wheeljack. It's just a silhouette but looks promising.
Awesome :)Quote:
Originally Posted by High_Q
Might have to buy a wheeljack
Who's theConvoy in the top of th image under Phase 1?Quote:
Originally Posted by High_Q
I wonder if we may see an encore G1 Wheeljack to match the Masterpiece version... :D
Think old Wheeljacks mould has been lost or destroyed. Like Sunstreaker and Mirage
Go! G26 Optimus Prime, the triple changer.Quote:
Originally Posted by reillyd