hard to say, they may still make the movie as I read on its just been delayed.Quote:
Originally Posted by CBratron
Leonardo Di C had interest playing the role. (just by googling)
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hard to say, they may still make the movie as I read on its just been delayed.Quote:
Originally Posted by CBratron
Leonardo Di C had interest playing the role. (just by googling)
I've also heard Tobey McGuire has expressed interest in playing Rick Fokker. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by drifand
Isnt that Roy Folker and Rick Hunter? Oh whatever.....Then I guess HG will reboot the movie every 10 years.
Any potential star wanting to act in their movies probably ran off after smelling HG's stink from 100 miles away. Pity that there are still Robotech fans that wouldn't hesitate at throwing money at them.
Oops. Meant Rick Hunter. Brain stopped working. :oQuote:
Originally Posted by drifand
Yep..Quote:
Originally Posted by drifand
http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/2...ersmyballs.jpg
HG is a private company. The owners are not likely to sell for anywhere close to a fair price otherwise it would have been done already.Quote:
Originally Posted by CBratron
Sad thing is a lot of people will watch the movie and support it. Hell my wife already sold by Leonardo here. :(
Don't deny it, so are you :pQuote:
Originally Posted by drifand
I don't mind the cast, what I do mind is HG's ethics. So what I normally will watch in Cinemas, I can rent this movie instead.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sinnertwin
Well looks like 8 more years their license will run out in 2021. :)
Sweet, they would probably take 15 years to come out with a movie.Quote:
Originally Posted by drifand
In honesty it can be sorted out if they humble themselves and decided to co-op and throw the selfish HG that they are now.
Nice!Quote:
Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime
Indeed! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Lint
Did anyone here get a set of the SDCC Joe/transformer crossovers?
A GI Joe Skystriker isn't a Valkyrie either, yet they are suing on one but not the other. They both look like Robotech jets.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime
Just say it was based on a F14 Tomcat, and see what HG will do.
Sue Grumman for IP infringement?Quote:
Originally Posted by drifand
While they're at it they can try their hand at suing the US Navy & Iranian Air Force who were Grumman's F14 customers. See how that goes for them :D
And then there's this :rolleyes:
but is he in prison? If he is surely some nut job is doing the movie for him to pay off debt. lol
No, I'm pretty sure he's suing his accountant... :pQuote:
Originally Posted by drifand
And I'd imagine that's exactly the sort of argument Hasbro's lawyers will be using. It's pretty much how IP law works.Quote:
Originally Posted by DELTAprime
Could just pick any toy collector and ask to differentiate which is a valk and which is Jetfire.
Probably you find out that it would piss HG more because some expert just starts saying that's not even a valkrie, that HG robotech. A valkrie is from Macross. lol
Harmony Gold bought the rights to rape our childhoods back in 1983. Thirty years later they still haven't bothered to do it, they just want the option of suing Michael Bay.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime
Playing devil's advocate for a second - the rocket boosters are unique to Robotech, which is an IP Harmony Gold currently have rights to in America. The jet on its own, wouldn't be, which is why they wouldn't have a claim over any F-14 toy, unless it was painted to replicate a Robotech veratech pattern. And probably why Hasbro (apparently) sought permission for the Classics homage of Jetfire to have the rocket boosters.
A MP "Skyfire" would be possible, based on the cartoon model, as the rocket booster was completely unique to Hasbro. It amazes me that after 28 years, Hasbro have never created one based on the cartoon, which they wouldn't have to pay any rights to.
EDIT - I was just trying to look for the fan-made one that was on display back in BotCon 2000-ish, which was fully transformable, and looked like the cartoon model, so is very do-able.
Unfortunately, I couldn't find it... but came across quite a lot of "erotic artwork" of Jetfire with Starscream, which I never realised there was such a significant interest in that pairing. (I've seen/heard of other popular pairings, but never those two)
See that's why you should never turn GoogleSafeSearch off ;PQuote:
Originally Posted by griffin
I recall the custom you're talking about, and thought I might have a copy in my archives but no.Quote:
Originally Posted by griffin
And the Skyfire and Starscream coupling makes perfect sense, afterall they explored the universe together, separated for millions of years, and on being reunited Skyfire trusted Starscream's word and joined him at his side as a Decepticon. ;)
I thought that Classics Jetfire's boosters, combined with the design of the toy itself, was different enough that it wouldn't fall under being classified as an IP infringement. I can see that Hasbro's added small wings on the sides of the boosters which does make it a bit different from the original Valkyrie design, but the rest of the boosters look too similar, and probably combined with the Skystriker and Valkyrie both being based on the F14 Tomcat making it look even more similar. (-_-)
Some dude's custom MP Skyfire
And another meme poking fun at HG :rolleyes:
This is 3rd Party, but I thought it relevant ;):cool::
http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/...pseac01493.jpg
Revealed earlier today via TFCon 2013's 3rd Party Panel, by an as of yet unnamed group. :cool:
(Is Harmony Gold to now take on 3rd Party groups? :p:D)
^ Love that Not-Skyfire. Wow...
Was it this one? BotCon 1996Quote:
Originally Posted by griffin
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http://www.reocities.com/starshdw/images/bc963.jpg
It's possible. The one I saw was out of packaging, in both modes... and I think a photo board of its transformation. But there are certainly a few of them out there, as it appears to be simple enough to engineer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sinnertwin
Why? It has to resemble the distinct designs they "own", and the Skyfire design and rocket booster is nothing like Robotech designs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hursticon
Hasbro on the other hand, has grounds to sue third-parties for profiteering off their character & toy designs, but cant because they are produced in China. (and it isn't worth the expense to sue the people in America that are selling them... based on what one of the Hasbro people at BotCon was saying about the situation)
Just a joke really, as what you said is exactly correct - Skyfire looks nothing at all like Jetfire. ;):)Quote:
Originally Posted by griffin
That is interesting to learn and somewhat not too surprising either. :cool:Quote:
Hasbro on the other hand, has grounds to sue third-parties for profiteering off their character & toy designs, but cant because they are produced in China. (and it isn't worth the expense to sue the people in America that are selling them... based on what one of the Hasbro people at BotCon was saying about the situation)
Can you elaborate further? It has always interested me all this 3P stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by griffin
If Hasbro wants to be rid of 3rd parties then they should pick up their game and do what they do and at the same level and by that I don't mean complexity. Several 3rd party toys are no more complex than Hasbro toys, just more thoughtfully built and getting the 'fan' appeal right. They are a big corporation so the 'Can't do it' it's just them being too set in their ways to see beyond their tunnel vision business plan.
Exactly. Pursuing legal avenues would just lose their fanbase. The ideal way to win is to making toys that the fans want at the same level of quality (or better) and at the cheaper price that their experience at production and logistics can provide.Quote:
Originally Posted by kup
Ditto, and don't be like stupid HG. Just produce good stuff and know your market.
That's the mistake that Takara made 13 years ago which basically killed off BotCon Japan and seriously damaged relations between Takara and Japanese TF fans. Takara and key fans have worked hard to repair that relationship since; e.g. collaborating on eHobby exclusives, Binaltech et al. Characters like Tigertrack are a by product of this effort to rebuild burnt bridges, and it's thankfully worked for Takara.Quote:
Originally Posted by CBratron
But of course prevention would be better than cure and it'd be preferable for Hasbro to just not even go down that ugly path. I totally agree with what you guys are saying -- Hasbro would be much better off proactively combating third party toy manufacturers by just making the damn products themselves.