About the same from ebayQuote:
Originally Posted by Jenko21
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About the same from ebayQuote:
Originally Posted by Jenko21
Yeah I couldnt find any but I know tf direct had themQuote:
Originally Posted by kup
I just got my shipping notification. Should be interesting...
Might be best to refrain from naming particular sites here that sell knock-offs or replicas guys. The enthusiasm is great, but Griffin did bring this matter up earlier. If you really really really want to know, then best to do a private message to follow up....
We all freaked last month when tfw2005 went down that Hasbro was doing a crackdown on third party and KOs
Was that the actual reason it went down?
No. Mass hysteria from alot of people though. They were doing server maintenance or something.Quote:
Originally Posted by theshape
Got my Ratbat today!
Paint job on the cassette face is flawless and build quality seems on par with the other MP cassettes; maybe not quite as tight as the Laserbeak (but that's a good thing as kup will tell you!).
A couple faults that all seem to match with what people on TFW have said:
- one of the boosters on his back doesn't sit perfectly flush (90º) in bat mode. Doesn't bother me cause you can tilt the other one to match
- he has a tiny scuff on the black chest piece. No big deal, a black marker will cover it up
- a few tiny sprue marks that are probably no worse than the real one
All in all, very happy for the price, hope you guys get yours soon too!
I'm noticing those mold seams on pics people are posting.
Yeah mine are all in the same spots... i don't know what the real Ratbat is like in that regard, but i think if it bothered you, it's nothing a nail file couldn't clean up.
And here's a pic!
http://i.imgur.com/YdYNQZ0l.jpg
I received, opened and transformed back and forth my KO MP Ratbat.
Based on my previous experience with the official 'winged' tapes, this KO Ratbat has better quality control than the Hasbro/Tak-Tom releases. The plastic is of comparable quality and the odd paint flaws are no different than the ones you see in contemporary official toys.
Flaws: Some gold paint smear in the booster on the purple part - Easily fixed with some rubbing alcohol.
One booster does not sit at a perfect 90 degree angle but very close - Annoying but no where near as bad when compared with my Legit laserbeak/Buzzsaw experience.
This KO was a good investment and ended up with a superior satisfied experience than forking out the money for the official stuff that is broken and badly assembled.
Sad, sad times when the KO item is of superior quality and value than the legit article.
First time KO for me. I'm happy with the purchase, a great addition to the MP cassettes.
However.....
Having this in hand I can say that there is no way that it's worth buying Soundblaster just for Rattbat.
Nice try ;)
Finally received mine today just before heading off to work and could not have been more pleasantly surprised as to how good it was for a KO! Much like Kup's one of the boosters doesn't sit a perfect 90 degrees but it's barely noticeable and not worth shedding any tears over and the paint apps are absolutely spot on, no scuffs or over-painting to be seen anywhere! Overall a great little investment and a perfect edition to my (slow) growing MP collection.
Got mine on Sat. I agree with everything above 100% Really happy with mine.Quote:
Originally Posted by kup
dunno why I couldn't find this thread way back when I received mine. Wanted to post some pics so I ended up just posting them in the Acquisitions thread. Was surprised to receive it coz it came quite early and such a big box with a tiny tape figure in it hahahah. Brought it at the Parra fair but yeah not a lot of people there are interested in a KO figure ;p. It's good quality though and Im content with it rather than forking out $150 plus shipping then trying to figure out what to do with the SoundBlaster figure since I don't want that one , hahah. Good bang for my buck :D
My, how times have changed. It used to be 'KO = EVIL'. I never thought I'd read a thread like this.
but they are evil - evil decepticons hehehehehQuote:
Originally Posted by 5FDP
http://i1379.photobucket.com/albums/...psb336ca1c.jpg
http://i1379.photobucket.com/albums/...psdaf04e4f.jpg
Sign of our times..Quote:
Originally Posted by 5FDP
Hasbro/Tomy just became eviler.
This is my third experience with these KO masterpieces. I have mp12 and mp19 KO and real and as far as I can tell they have better paint apps than the original. I was more than happy to purchase the KO ratbat, and not to my surprise I'm happy with my purchase.
Yeah, same. I've gotten KO's when I've thought I've been ordering legit stuff and cracked it with the seller. This is the first time that I have knowingly and willingly bought a KO. Hopefully mine will arrive next week, looking forward to him :)Quote:
Originally Posted by King Atlas
Exactly, if they had made an official Ratbat available without having to fork out a fortune for another big MP just to get him as well I would have bought the official one. It's those kinds of practices that alleviate any guilt I would otherwise feel about this purchaseQuote:
Originally Posted by King Atlas
can some pm me a place to get this?
They still are. Some would consider them the 'lesser evil' now.Quote:
Originally Posted by 5FDP
Exactly. I got a PM from the admins saying "don't post KO acquisitions here, if at all - we do not condone them blah blah."Quote:
Originally Posted by 5FDP
But it definitely got me thinking about how KOs are slowly making their way up the ranks along side of the 3rd party stuff. Members here are definitely starting to become more and more interested in this stuff now because we're not getting what we want from Has/Tom.
KO Ratbat is no exception. Like many here, he is my first KO ever and I'm more than happy with the figure. If Has/Tom continue to try to make us pay for figures by paying for more expensive figures that we do not want - then i'll be sending more money to the KO manufacturers more often...
MP ratbat is definitely a figure I would have wanted a legit version of. But not at the cost of a Soundblaster that I am not interested in...
Got mine, agree with everybody here that it's awesome.
Seems to be obvious choice if you don't want Soundblaster.
Anakin Skywalker started out innocent enough. We all know where the dark side led him. ;):p
Is that really necessary to post a private message between you & another forum member. *shakes head*Quote:
Originally Posted by ITZTRU
It's known to most members here that KO's are not condoned here and he was just reminding me. I was pointing out and agreeing with others that people here are starting to be more and more interested in KO's when there was a time that it wasn't nearly the case. And I didn't mention anyone's name to embarrass them or single them out. Stop trying to suck up admin's ass. *Shakes head*? Please.Quote:
Originally Posted by Megatran
Yeah in one of the most nonsensical and mediocre character arcs ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Megatran
I can only dream that one day, Disney would erase Episodes I-III from existence.
I like eps 123 :(
And in other non related new the teaser trailer for 7 is this weekend. Did I say I love high end KOs :)
Does this qualify as a 'High End' KO?Quote:
Originally Posted by VERT
Seems more like some clever chinese person taking advantage of Has-Tak's abysmal decisions.
I believe this is due to you posting it in the monthly acquisitions thread dedicated for official toy/item acquisitions... there is a dedicated thread for the 3rd party (and KOs ;p) acquisitions. Had you prolly posted it there then no pm reminder would've been given.Quote:
Originally Posted by ITZTRU
Yes, that's because Hasbro could choose to sue the person who runs this site (and pays for it, I might add) or the individual making the posting.Quote:
Originally Posted by ITZTRU
Whether Hasbro are doing a good job or a poor job is ... debatable. We all know the realities of the KO market - but that doesn't change the fact that KOs are an intellectual property violation and one that'd be very hard if not impossible to defend in court.
I've recently seen (on another forum) an example of a multinational do something similar to an individual just recently; it was bullying & very much overkill but the IP laws favour the company, not the individual. The sum involved was peanuts to the company but a massive slug to the guy involved. It wasn't the site owner that they went after, either - it was the guy who made a posting.
OzFormer's limited tolerance of KOs is the to protect all of us & not to spoil the fun; just keep that in mind, guys.
Yeh, liege - I gathered that :PQuote:
Originally Posted by liegeprime
Don't get me wrong. I understand the reason behind the PM. But whether I post in one section, or another - I don't see the difference. The admins are allowing the members of this forum to post their KO acquisitions regardless. I don't think posting acquisitions of a KO are going to matter to those who want to sue us as to whether we post our KO acquisitions in one section or another if protecting us is what you're trying to do (which I'm sure we all appreciate, I'm sure :o)Quote:
Originally Posted by dirge
Me mentioning the PM in the first place was just in reference to how I am agreeing with some of the members here who say that KO's are slowly being accepted in the community.
What I will defend myself over however is Megatran's "shake head" comment, like I did something wrong. That's what my gripe is about.
I'm not entirely thrilled about the idea of this type of topic on a site that is closer to Hasbro than most other fansites... but too much demand was there for me to waste time removing posts popping up in multiple topics, so a single topic was created and moved into this section.Quote:
Originally Posted by 5FDP
It won't be a precedent for people to post up about any or all KO toys. Just this one, at this time. :)
You appear worked up. This was not my intention and regrettable.Quote:
Originally Posted by ITZTRU
The point I was making was Person A communicated to you via Private Messaging system to be discrete. You posted the content (or part thereof) on the forum with the intent to make your point and/or argue in the negative. Omitting names does not make it any better. This was poor form / etiquette. You still could have achieved your point without the need to include the private comms.
If you still feel aggrieved, send me a PM. Hopefully we can smooth things out. :)
Trust me, the admins of this site are aware of the acceptance. But if Hasbro in the US or AU decide to get litigious, we'd rather there be no ambivalence about the genuineness of products & that this board doesn't condone those products.Quote:
Originally Posted by ITZTRU
As I said, I recently saw an individual get smacked down on another forum. Dude was basically bribed by the company not to be taken to court. He was selling (privately) an unlicensed item - we're not talking a KO here, more like a 3rd party merchandising item. He didn't manufacture the item, but they still decided to go after him. That's why I PMed you; I don't wanna see anyone here get into that sort of mess.
+1Quote:
Originally Posted by kup
There has not been a high end ko of any, they have not done better in material wise and have only sort cheap ways to get you.
there have been KOs where the paint is better.Quote:
Originally Posted by drifand
and to be honest the KO mp12g (gold lambor) has amazing gold plastic with no signs of gold plastic syndrome.
that said the knees are terrible, the head doesn't shut, the hands couldn't hold anything let alone the gun
this is same as KO mp 10 the toy isn't any much better, and only added paint apps.Quote:
Originally Posted by CoRDS
I can see the pros and the cons, but looking at the photos posted, I can't see a clear difference between the original and ko version.... and that is bad for those who are buying these in the future, and want (for whatever reason) a genuine one, or to support Takara.
I guess we'll have to wait for a Hasbro version, if it is ever released
Well if they ever release a two pack one, Ill be up for it... hopefully they pair it with say a red /red rumble - Enemy... or make it a 2 bat pack - with an orange version - Wingthing :D. The possibilities are there, if they want they can do the Cobalt sentry to reuse the old molds... although the Ravage mould is the worst of the cassettes IMO. Unfortunately these possibilities while it makes sense doesn't happen as the decision making in HASTAKTOM takes a lot of processes and must pass the $$$$ test of the higher ups :p;):(Quote:
Originally Posted by reillyd