At least it's not a AOE-deco Galvatron (mostly likely will come out anyways as a TFCC/Botcon exclusive).Quote:
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But you will have an incomplete set of collector cards... :pQuote:
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But you will have an incomplete set of collector cards... :pQuote:
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I think I'm going to opt out of these two now.
The comics will probably make me regret that later on, but I think the funds saved may go toward some 3P figures instead.
Images of Dragstrip in-hand have surfaced, so these toys appear to be in production already... which isn't surprising if sources were true in claiming that they were being released at the turn of the year.
Images of another first wave Deluxe - Alpha Bravo, the helicopter replacement for Slingshot.
hmmm. I wonder whose decision was it to name that figure as such.... kinda lame :p
Why is Dragstrip consistently crying tears of blood?
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Could have been worse, I could've been Wheelie :p
The name thing really shi*s me sometimes - I don't see why they couldn't have 'Aerialbot Slingshot ' and 'Stunticon Wildrider' the same way they did 'Decepticon Brawl' and 'Autobot Ratchet'. It seems Hasbro could find ways around name copyright if they tried
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The next toy to show up in a gallery is Firefly (Fireflight).
Interesting that Hasbro lost the trademark to Fireflight but is able to use the far more populous and popular name of Firefly. I guess it's a generic enough word that it is unable to be trademarked? But then you get things like 'Autobot Jazz'Quote:
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Oops, solved. Just remembered Firefly is a GIJoe trademark.
Amazon listings for some of the 2015 Generations toys.
Legends Huffer and Blackjack (Huffer is a redeco of Optimus with new head, Blackjack is new and combines with the Stunticons).
And for those that missed it on the RID news posting, also on Amazon are Voyager Optimus, Voyager Silverbolt and Deluxe Skydive.
The fourth and final first-wave deluxe has been shown off - Skydive.
Actually dont mind that head now that i look closer, but still, as soon as air raid comes he'll be a limb forever, cant wait for these, wouldve been nice if they had hit the shelves for xmas, then i could tell my family what to get.Quote:
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Sky Dive is probably my favourite besides Air Raid (which we have yet to see pictures of in hand) and Silverbolt. Weird too, because he was my least favourite Aerialbot. I still love them as much as I did when I was tiny (though I didn't know they combined).
For those collecting the official images, or bookmarking future Amazon listings, the remaining first wave Deluxes are now listed as place-holders (not in stock or for pre-order).
That's all six of the first wave Deluxes and Voyagers now listed.
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Wow. I thought the one-step changers were just an AOE thing.
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The transformation of the Combiner Wars figure looks at least as complex as the Ultra class toy from six years ago
What they should do is design him in such a way that you can separate the jet and robot halves, and advertise it as a "2-in-1" toy.:p
How much is a Voyager-sized toy from an Aussie retailer these days? $45-$50?
Yep, usually around $50. You could say Silverbolt is slavishly G1 toy accurate with the transformation. :D
I really want to see what Takara's Combiner Wars line is going to look like so I can decide on preordering the Hasbro versions or wait for TT.
Interesting to see if Takara will end up releasing Alpha Bravo and Offroad, or just skip them and retool Wildrider and Slingshot from the other moulds.Quote:
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In-hand images of Silverbolt, from the same source as the others it seems... so someone somewhere (who isn't Hasbro) already has the first wave.
At a Singapore event, a display case of the first wave of Legends, Deluxe and Voyagers were shown off... again suggesting that these toys are VERY close to being released.
TFW2005 has in-hand images of Superion.
He's beautiful, absolutely beautiful. Between the Dinobots Unleashed and Superion, this is shaping up to being one of the best Christmas' ever.
So, people are 'ok' with paying $50 for a seemingly simplistic toy, just because he combines?Quote:
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Well yes. He's always been like that and it's simply the flaw of his alt-mode. Look at RotF Jetfire, he had the same problems.Quote:
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Hasbro have come a long way in designing TFs, but are yet to make a jet with a neat undercarriage? Can't they take a leaf out of the Masterpiece Seeker design?
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Not everyone's ok with it. While I understand the price restrictions that the final product had to no doubt comply to, I don't these are worth the money. The alt and combined modes look like arse.Quote:
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F-15 is easy to do, it's a box with wings. Other planes are different.Quote:
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If you want to pay over $100 for a voyager that you will almost never display by himself, go petition to Hasbro for it.Quote:
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Superion looks superb. Really beautiful.
Wow - the production piece looks so much better than the prototype or promotional images. Now I'm off to buy one...
The current Hasbro strategy with Transformers changed last year to make the toys simpler and easier to transform, and therefore more playable by their target demographic.
Complexity was something that they recognised was giving them bad feedback and sales from parents, who's kids want the main size-classes (voyager and smaller) to be quick to play between the modes (with their friends or by themselves), leaving the larger sizes or collector figures to be the challenge toys.
Remember, the last two years of Hasbro presentations (like SDCC, BotCon and the quarterly investor reports) have stressed their dedicated divergent strategy of targeting three groups of demographics - young kids, pre-teen kids, and collectors.
Generations toys were for both Collectors and pre-teen kids, so it has to compromise to accommodate both as much as possible, without putting off the bigger of two customer groups (the younger ones).
The masterpiece and leader toys are the ones aimed at just collectors, so are the ones for us to demand higher standards, complexity and more realistic engineering. That leaves the smaller size toys to be "best they can get to being realistic" without putting off their main meal ticket of the younger kids and parents who buy most of their products.
When collectors become their largest customer base, then they'll dedicate the toyline's products to us instead of kids... similar to the purpose of Hasbro HK exclusives, FunPub characters and Matty Collector's MOTUC.
Realistically, when you know the factors involved in generating the most complex action figure toys on the market, for the budgets the toy designers are given, and the change in corporate direction from the one that wasn't selling enough product to their target demographic (creating significant shelfwarming), this is probably the best compromise at the moment, as they could just ignore collectors completely and just produce gimmick toys for the kiddies. They'd sell more of the high-profit, simple toys, and not have to listen to adult collectors who expect to be their primary focus.
I agree it'd be nice, but it would be delusional for me to think that they should spend more time and money making less toys (and less money) to have "perfect" toys, when these still look pretty good from at least one angle or mode for their intended purpose (being a triple-changer, because they have to combine).
Combiners and triple-changers are always more work, because more parts and joints need to be included that one or two modes don't use.
Was intedning to skip Superion, but that looks pretty cool!
I hope BlackJack is meant to be Micromaster Blackjack.
Dayum. Looking good. My wallet is weeping.
Well said, griffin :)
It's the unfortunate reality of the situation and I reckon we've got it pretty good with the 'collector' classes of TF's. The local pricing of those releases, on the other hand, is a matter for another debate!
All things considered they look a pretty good effort for Hasbro's current Generations line. I'm tempted by one or two, but not a full set strangely.
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just saw the pics of prime combined with various limbs... and it is hideous.
my first thought was 'HIIIISSSSS KILL IT WITH FIRE!!!!!!'
It looks like Prime is awkwardly standing on top of 2 other guys especially when you see the back view
im just gonna stay away from these.