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Originally Posted by drifand
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Originally Posted by drifand
I don't know how that works honestly.Quote:
Originally Posted by nsm034
Unsure that would be the way I would order one and assured one.
MP Cracker is the only one of the Seekers I'm missing but this seems just too expensive and just too much hassle to try and get - hoping one day they reissue the Hasbro version
I don't even know the price.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigTransformerTrev
As for hasbro it may come after they release skywarp next year.
Pretty sure hasbro has lined up Optimus for tru to release soon.
As posted in the previous posts Takara Tomy Mall price is approx. 165aud and indicated this will be released by Hasbro Asia as well.
I think the Takara Skywarp was more expensive ranging from 200aud to 300aud and seems more limited since it was only released in Asia.
As far as I am concerned starscream was around $189 on eBay so $169 is actually decent.
We can eventually wait for hasbro, I doubt is not going to happen
Yeah but this is the current (RRP) price for that toy, not the aftermarket price! :eek: MP Starscream's RRPs were:Quote:
Originally Posted by drifand
* MP3 = 10290JPY ($115)
* Hasbro's MP3 = $100
* MP11 = 13000JPY ($145) <---and that's w/ the extra bling (although no display stand? <--unsure :confused:)
I personally think that 14904JPY/$165 is rather expensive for an MP Seeker as a current retail price.
Although this wouldn't be the first time that TakaraTOMY's jacked up the price for a limited repaint; Gentei Skywarp and Thundercracker were freakin' $50 each. :(
In Hasbro's defence, it did happen. And it was released in Australia too. You can't seriously expect Hasbro or TakaraTOMY to just keep reissuing these toys year after year just to cater for the section of fans who missed out on the previous release. MP Thundercracker's been done twice already -- this one represents the third version of MP Thundercracker. There's been ample opportunity for people to get one if they really wanted one.Quote:
Originally Posted by drifand
I have no interest in any more redecos of existing MPs, I want new characters. As far as the Seekers are concerned, I want Coneheads. I wouldn't mind an MP Ion Storm either. Can't say I'd be massively interested in an MP Nova Storm, as I'm happy enough to repurpose my MP Sunstorm as that character as well. :p
When I am referring to hasbro I mean tru box edition, a lot of MPs did happen and is happening again. Just like mp-10 is going to be released by tru box style.
And if you are not seeing the trend like I do that every seeker has been released each year perhaps you see it now.
Nothing new until they milk milk milk till nothing left before going on.
What's next ? No stand no cape high prices? Yeah we all know that.
Then looking at tru starscream price and accessories? Wtf? Yeah we all know makes 0 sense.
The only thing exclusive is the high price guarantee you pay.
Huh? :confused: Hasbro did release MP Thundercracker here via TRU. And it was in a box. I don't think there is really a specific "TRU" box style per se, rather, Hasbro just designs the boxes and some of them happen to be TRU exclusives. Hasbro's MP Skywarp was released in a similar style box as Hasbro's MP Thundercracker and MP Starscream.Quote:
Originally Posted by drifand
*squints*Quote:
Originally Posted by drifand
2004 = No Seekers
2005 = No Seekers
2006 = MP3 Starscream
2007 = MP6 Skywarp, Hasbro's Starscream
2008 = MP7 Thundercracker, MP Starscream USA Edition
2009 = Hasbro's Skywarp
2010 = No Seekers
2011 = No Seekers
2012 = MP11 Starscream, MP11S Sunstorm, Hasbro's Thundercracker
2013 = Acid Storm
2014 = Hasbro's Sunstorm
2015 = MP11SW Skywarp, Hasbro's MP Starscream, MP11T Thundercracker
Not each year.
:confused: TRU Starscream sold here for about $100, which I was happy to pay. And that toy sold fast! It came with the stand, although no coronation bling (however a 3rd party did release an accessory kit). If you're talking about the Hasbro version of MP11 that's coming out later, then isn't it too early to determine (let alone judge) what TRU's price will be? :confused: It could turn out to be similar to Acid Storm; lacking the coronation kit, but includes the stand and selling for about $100 -- Acid Storm sold like hot cakes under such conditions, I'm certain Starscream would as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by drifand
Now I'm not saying that TRU are guaranteed to honour that price point; after all we saw how they hiked the price of MP Bluestreak compared their price for MP Prowl just last year. I just think it's too early to judge is all.
Not in the damn new sequence box which I am referring. Sigh...I don't give a damn about old releases even in mp-11 mould, they are not of the new batch.
I am talking about the "reboot " numbering masterpiece sequence and if I am not wrong skywarp and thundercracker will make its way to this new style box just as the LATEST starscream mp. Simply put, since acid storm, each year is another seeker nothing new to me the pattern is there.
Collectors of this age are going by the new sequence and that's what hasbro is banging on hence the reboot and re-intro of some oldies like grimlock. I bet my mp-10 that Optimus and the rest of the seekers will just turn up in this new format box.
Ffs look at your seeker sequence from 2013 by hasbro is a steady pattern. If you seriously didn't understand my guesstimate in the coming year, forget it, I am just going to say "I told you so" and not that I am saying it as if I know it, is just too predictable that every year hasbro is just releasing a seeker decepticon if that not obvious enough for you. Very happy to be proven wrong as I don't mind seeing new MPs but I know that's not going to happen.
It is what it is for price, I never like price increases especially for a plastic toy.
I at least wanna see a retool for the Coneheads before they retire the MP Seeker mould
Don't mind that but that means is just more coneheads mp for decepticon for the next 5 years, nothing new like galvertron or insecticons or reflector etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigTransformerTrev
Something that Takara keeps doing. There seems to be nothing exciting about decepticon since sound wave. The excitement is solely autobot cars.
Can't wait for the next two years to pass to end the entire seekers line, it been a boring trip.
Hasbro Thundercracker cost me $80. With a stand :cool: I can't remember if it was reduced from $100 but even then, that's a good price for a MP seeker.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime
Who seriously gives a damn about the new box sequence? If you do your in for a disappointment at some stage if you expect Hasbro to be consistent with anything over a period of time anything longer than a few years.Quote:
Originally Posted by drifand
Wait and see? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Trent
How the arse did you think I could predicted starscream mp release?
And oh hasbro do care about the damn box not that I give two shits about it
I be extremely happy to be wrong though, if next year 0 seekers are released by hasbro. Mp-11 skywarp by hasbro is probably next.
If we want a chat about prices, coffee only cost $2.50 few years back, it is now $4.50
^Best. :cool: :D I honestly hadn't even noticed, as with the sole exception of Acid Storm, I haven't collected any Hasbro-boxed MPs after Acid Storm. And even if I did, what Trent said. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Trent
So, do you honestly want HasTak to reissue almost every MP in the new Generations style box and MP numbering, just so that collectors can purchase them all over again with a more consistent Hasbro box style? :eek: IMO, if having consistent looking boxes is your thing, just pre-order all the Takara(TOMY) versions. Advantages include:
* Absolutely more consistent box style. They haven't changed it since they released MP-1 in 2004 (well, Xmas of 2003, but it's effectively an '04 release; most people didn't receive theirs until Jan/Feb of '04 anyway :p) and are unlikely to change it in future.
* Smaller boxes. If you're going to be collecting boxes, then space is an issue (even if you flatten them!), and it's no secret that Hasbro's boxes are big space-wasters. Their MP Prowl & Bluestreak boxes are ridiculously huge, nearly double the volume of TakTOM's.
* No great loss if you can't read Japanese. TakTOM's boxes have all logos and names printed in English as well (unless you're a stickler for the Anglophone names, e.g. "Bluestreak" instead of "Streak"). Yes, the various blurbs on the back are in Japanese, but Hasbro's boxes don't really have much in the way of blurbs anyway, there's just a lot of blanks spaces. The Hasbro boxes won't translate any of that stuff anyway.
* You'll get the toys sooner. Hasbro's versions come out years (months at best) after TakaraTOMY's. At times not at all (e.g. Sideswipe, Ultra Magnus, Bumblebee, Wheeljack etc.); this is why Hasbro AU have resorted to directly importing Japanese MPs for our market, because they cbb to wait and see if Hasbro USA are going to do it. The sole exception to this is Acid Storm (who is the only Generations style boxed MP that I own).
* You'll probably get the toy cheaper. Especially if you pre-order and get an earlybird discount. The only exception has been Soundwave, whose AU RRP worked out even cheaper than discounted Japanese RRPs! And maybe Sunstorm too -- the TakTOM version was initially sold without any preorder discount (13650JPY/$151); how much is our local one again? :confused:
I suspect that only a small minority of collectors would honestly be willing to re-collect every MP re-issued with a new box. I don't think that the numbers would make it feasible for Hasbro to do it all again.
Up to you, man. If you want to sit around and wait and see if Hasbro releases all the MPs you want in that new Generations TRU style box, then go nuts. I'll stick with TakTOM. :)
Have preorders started?
If Hasbro had not re-released Starscream in the MP-11 mould I would say there was no chance of an MP-11 based Skywarp but now it must at least be some kind of possibility. However I don't see them re-releasing Thundercracker since they already did him in the MP-11 Mould. I am really hoping to pick Takara MP-11T but not sure if we will see a Takara MP-11SW any time soon since they probably wont have the extra head count from Hasbro Asia considering they already released MP-11SW as an exclusive. Mind you, Sideswipe seems to be getting another run...
yes, they haveQuote:
Originally Posted by DELTAprime
Beats me, it felt overly predictable and came to me as a no surprise when starscream mp was released this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kranix
Those here who are just thinking in terms of hasbro has done it before and won't be reissue the MPs again really need to look at the bigger picture.
I can guarantee an Optimus is bound to show up in hasbro new box line up and is no surprises there either. The so called Asia exclusive means exactly nothing in the transformers mp context as grimlock was a good example it reissued regardless. And yes wait for it, hasbro may decide to do a rodimus instead of hot rod. With a reboot of numbering people do care and do buy despite I wouldn't care about it.
I guess next year will be interesting as if my prediction is wrong I be most happy that hasbro had finally had enough of releasing a seeker each year since acid storm.
So technically if They are correct there is 0 seekers left to be released in the coming years! We can finally get a new decepticon but where do I have this feeling this isn't so?
And goki this isn't about you, or me want. Is more like how hasbro is rebooting the mp products line. If you are saying it's been done before why bother to do a grimlock?
On a side note, is there any word on Takara doing an MP-11 reissue? I thought I saw a post a while back that indicated that MP-11 was being reissued along with MP-10 (which has occurred), MP-12 and MP-14.
That rumour turned out to be false as the given dates for all of them has been and gone. But I wouldn't give up hope of a reissue since MP-10 and MP-12 are both seeing reissues.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raider
drifand do you ever post anything that isn't negative or critical? Every piece of news announcement is meant to be exciting, but reading your posts really takes the fun out of it all
and Gok, can't tell ya how many threads there are where you post rrp comparisons (and state the ridiculousness) of the price difference between releases like MP-11 and MP-3. I mean, MP-3 was released nearly 10 years ago...
Reissue happened months ago Raider. Think RK had him for $139USD or so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raider
http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/p...70&mode=retail
How in the hell did I miss this... Thanks mate.Quote:
Originally Posted by canofwhoopass_87
But more recently released MP Seekers, like Acid Storm and Thundercracker, sold here at about the same price as MP3. It seems like a significant leap in such short a time frame. It feels the same as the price hike w/ Hasbro's TRU exclusive MP Bluestreak, having jumped to $130 compared to the $100 price tag on their MP Prowl just last year.Quote:
Originally Posted by canofwhoopass_87
This reminds me of TakaraTOMY's pricing w/ Gentei Thundercracker and Skywarp; both sold at premium prices for no apparent reason other than because they could. Of course, the difference was that there was - at the time - little other choice for collectors. I paid freakin' $50 each for my Gentei Thundercracker & Thrust because at the time a regular retail version of a Classicsverse Thundercracker & Thrust didn't exist. My only other option was to hunt down a BotCon Thundercracker & Thrust, which would've been even dearer. Then Hasbro released Generations Thundercracker & Thrust few years later; I bought them both to support Hasbro's decision to release these characters in regular retail. MP11T's a bit of a different story because this is the third release of this character in the MP line.
Annnnd sold out
Oh god...
You know why Apple is highly profitable and rest of the PC and mobile device industries are in the crapper? Because Apple makes higher quality products and builds reasonable profit margins into their price.
I feel like Takara Tomy is the Apple of Transformers. They are doing premium releases like the MP line and Legends line, hell even the TAV line has higher quality paint jobs, and they charge a higher, more profitable price.
It's called capitalism, if you have a problem with that then go live in the middle ages.
Though it is third release who can say is the same colour just as mp11 starscream by hasbro?
I'm only posting an observation of hasbro selling patterns for mp only. In no way i inplied i am correct , only that is beginning to be an obvious route. If you think my observation is negative then is just too bad. I guess i should shut up about skywarp being hasbro mp-09 or 10
Thoses who have bought for the box purposes have no choice but to buy this as you may not get a takara version in the end. I think it would be release at later stages.
Unless someone is working with hasbro can give a definate answer that no more seekers for the following two years. I am actually just expecting just that along with the other mp cars and if any luck they throw in their hasbro magnus eventuality.
Just remember this is a takara exclusive not a hasbro.
I also like to add, if hasbro is going to issue a next mp decepticon,
Who else is in the list? Lol
Exhuast which is banned? Or the remaining two seekers which are not released in this new style box?
I be surprised if anything comes out new from hasbro before takara. Acid storm was indeed a surprise.
Apple make better marketed products and maybe better looking products depending on your taste but better quality? They are usually the same bits underneath as a PC. Wow, does sound like Takara and Hasbro ��Quote:
Originally Posted by DELTAprime
Has PC already sold out or have their preorders not gone live yet?
Not yet soon, check their Facebook as they statedQuote:
Originally Posted by DELTAprime
It's there now but unable to pre order. $185
That is good i thought already sold out like people dont sleep these days ordering at night :DQuote:
Originally Posted by drifand
It's either the facebook page is right or their website is right? :D
Which one you'll find out tonight - unless PC confirms before then?
8:30 they said, I am grabing one for a friend, I think I risk it and pass.Quote:
Originally Posted by jazzcomp
Sorry had my question to PC in the wrong section.:)
If I wasn't getting public holiday pay tomorrow I wouldn't buy right now and actually take my chances with BBTS and the AUD to USD exchange rate. The only problem with PC is having to pay up front. If something comes out of nowhere like TC I have no time to save for it.
EDIT: Ordered!
Just ordered Thundercracker from PC. I normally avoid paying upfront but NY and Robot Kingdom both informed me today they are not carrying this one. So not much choice, PC is getting so big now the risk is reduced of something going wrong. Can't wait to get this one.:)
nippon-yasan not getting t-cracker?! :oQuote:
Originally Posted by DaptoDog
Crap i think i got one. Waiting for sorry email uhhh
quick it says add to cart again
I just pushed the button too.... :D really looking forward to getting him as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaptoDog
first time using PC, so hopefully no hiccups.
if you want him, now's the time people!