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in addition ownership permit still slightly more work for nsw buyers since the nsw b709 form required for importation has more requirements then the qld counterpart, mainly that it needs a license firearms dealer to be nominated and pick up for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raider
Never thought I'd say this but living in WA has its bonuses. Just get a B709 form approved and away you go.
It's way too early, but if TT Megs is coming I'll see if I can grab a couple.
its always a hassle when one wants to do things by the book ;-)
The price we pay to well...not end up like the US :D
Whenever it comes to a toy of a character who has been made before officaly or by 3rd party, (in MP Megs case both) I personally never understand the mentatlity of 'I'm glad I never bought the other similar toy from a few years ago' line we always get in these threads. To me it's like saying I'm glad I didn't see the previous movie in the series because the sequel was better. If the previous toy was good and gave hours of enjoyment then it did its job. if the previous toy sucked on the other hand (and MP Megs and Appolyon kinda do a bit) then I completely understand.
The collectors search for a definitive version will never be complete, lest theye stop being a collector.
But anyway, I'm still not 100% sure this is offical, parts of it look offical, but other parts seem more like an MMC toy.
Interesting points you make, I actualy ran across this pic after looking for pics of Maketoys Despotron which I was considering buying. This guys looks a bit more toon accurate than Despotron, but Despotron seems to have almost action figure like articulation, and knowing Maketoys will have a fun solid build. I imagine most people will go for an offical one, but it does seem like it would be harder to import. For that reason and the awesome articulation Depotron still tempts me.Quote:
Originally Posted by drifand
A lot of things on him give the official vibe, especially the head sculpt. I've never a 3P head remotely close to an official MP one, in terms of the character it brings out.
And think I've already spotted a potential Masterpiece moment:p. The trigger splits in two to make the crotch plate. Such simple and elegant solution for a part that almost always becomes kibble on 3P releases. MT's version hides the trigger in a very cool way but for an official product that would be over-engineering.
Oh and did anyone notice the stock can be used as a stand.
Like others said, even if this turns out to be yet another 3P attempt, it is still really tempting.
If you don't have a permit and your toy gets seized then you won't have a legal leg to stand on to claim it from Customs. Your Megatron will proceed on its way to oblivion.Quote:
Originally Posted by tron07
This trick may have worked up till 2007 but not anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ralph Wiggum
I've also never had my Gunformers checked, but I still obtained the permit and continue to abide by the standards for the permit. And I'm glad that I did because it gives me peace of mind in the event that I ever want to import another Gunformer, like say this new MP Megatron. I don't need to go through the whole circus acrobat act all over again. You just do it once and be done with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jazzman
^This. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ralph Wiggum
An internet sleuth thinks it's Hasui in the shots because of a shirt, watch and image on a computer monitor:
http://i.imgur.com/Phzw4Wa.jpg
Ur Singapore Malaysia Japan Hong Kong are not like us and they don't have all these paper work required. It's silly as if in US you probably can buy the real gun instead of a TT Megatron if you intent to rob anyone.
its all up to the society , as many in Hong Kong have air bb guns but they don't go round attempt to rob banks as the result could be fatal.
So you saying if I order a megatron and it gets seized I will then end up with a mp galvatron... Awesome!:pQuote:
Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime
Hehe don't think so.Quote:
Originally Posted by MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!
Hasui don't got chubby fingers :D
Also, he's not on the MP team.
I don't want this thread about 'ol Megs to derail into a conversation about gun control and gun culture, but I guess it's inevitable when we talk about bringing him into Australia.
Many Asian countries like Singapore, Hong Kong, Malaysia etc. simply don't have a gun culture or a need for guns..there's no hunting culture, or pest control like what we have. Real guns are very, very hard to obtain over there and the penalties are very severe. That's why things like airsoft is readily available in those countries; they're less likely to be used for crimes, and their culture don't consider guns to necessarily be a threat, because they're so uncommon.
Australia on the other hand, has a long and distinguished history of gun possession, harking back to the days of colonial times when the early settlers used them for culling pests, hunting and other stuff I won't mention. Guns in Australia aren't uncommon by any stretch (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-04-2...arthur/7365790), and really not that hard to obtain if you think about it. The sad truth is that they're here, they do get used for crimes, and we have tough laws because of it.
As for the U.S. of A., well no further comment needed really. But they get a orange plug shoved in their Megs so at least we don't have that.
Like Gok said, get a permit, and you won't have any trouble importing one. For most States/Territories, it's free and all it will cost you is a bit of time. There really is no excuse not to do things the right way. And truth to be told,I wouldn't want my fellow forumers to break the law over a toy.
Yeah, the connections are a bit tenuous, and until we get better pics it could be anyone. That said, the figure could be a Hasui design -- i'm quite sure there are a number of old and unfinished prototypes hanging around TT HQ just waiting to be greenlit.Quote:
Originally Posted by doublespy
If he doesn't suffer from cosmic rust like MP05, then I'll bite.
Don't worry it's all plastic, you be lucky if we have silver paint. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by 5FDP
If that's the case, might as well just let Customs incinerate it! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by drifand
Some more goss (via SunSon Son):
Above is a translation, with the original text as follows:Quote:
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Originally Posted by 5FDP
This is why I feel the 3p ones may still win over in some ways as we know they are not cutting cost in making the toy whereas TT on the other hand will just skip on something.Quote:
Originally Posted by MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!
I felt his scope was a bit short.
Looking over the 3p ones, I just don't like the aesthetics of them, so none of them suit my needs even if they have better build quality.
Of course, given the BS paperwork we need just to get a feckin' toy, it may not even be worth the hassle...
There was an interview with Hatsui ages ago where he said he had done the design work for all of the '84 bots. That would just be sketches though. It also mentioned that there were around ten designs for Condor/Laserbeak.Quote:
Originally Posted by MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!
There was another rumor going around a few months ago that MP Galvatron was being designed but became unworkable. :(
I wonder who leaked this because he is obviously a TT rep
Next up orange cap lol
Man I really want a good MP Megatron to go with my MP10 Optimus, but I also don't want to go through all the trouble and money of getting a permit in Victoria.
I wouldn't bother with a permit. Presumably it will be packed in robot mode, and may/may not have a barrel plug. Customs should have no reason to sieze it if its clearly a toy. Yes I know a pallette of MP05's got siezed. But it had a big photo of a Walther on the box and the idiot bringing it in clearly didn't do the paperwork.
I serously doubt many Australian owners of Mp05 (like me), G1 Megatron (me also) or any of the 3p megs actually have a replica firearms license. Certainly the law in Vic states that if its clearly a toy then no license is needed. Just keep it in 'bot mode and you should be fine. An xray of a boxed Megs in bot mode is not going to raise any flags.
Ideally buy it from an Aus supplier. That way customs doesn't factor in from your point of view.
So wait, is this confirmed yet?
That's weird given Takaratomy were willing to compromise on MP Hotrod, so why not Galvatron, third parties have proven it can be done.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tober
Would love to see some of these leftover designs, including why they weren't chosen or couldn't be realised.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tober
That is not true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chevron Action Flash
First, it was individual toys that were being seized, as people on here were noting it at the time of MP5's release.
There may or may not have been a bulk lot seized as well, but no one in Australia would have imported a pallet of them... or even more than half a dozen at once, as we didn't have any (significant) online toy stores in Australia back then. Bulk imports were just done by fans on behalf of other fans as group orders.
Secondly, Customs are not opening up anything to see the image of the alt-mode on the box. They are x-raying random packages in the mail and recognising the robot mode on the monitor. I know this because my MP-5G was seized at the end of 2014, and when I went to collect it (with the Federal import form), the outer packaging was untouched.
That experience prompted me to research the process for all states of Australia and post up this information topic.... building on from an earlier project that was created by a veteran lawyer, who would know a lot more about the law than you or me.
Thirdly, it is not a good idea to publicly recommend breaking Federal and State laws, as you could be prosecuted by both State Police and Federal police for soliciting (serious) firearm offences.
Even if no one here had the permits, it is still our requirement to recommend (not force) getting them IF you want to avoid future issues or prosecution if found to be owning one in a state that requires a permit.
Telling people to not follow the law is irresponsible, because if they were to get into trouble, would you step in to take the blame and the prison sentence on their behalf?
Criminal codes do specifically include toys in their descriptions of replica weapons. Speculating that they don't will only lead to confusion for others who might believe what you are saying.Quote:
I serously doubt many Australian owners of Mp05 (like me), G1 Megatron (me also) or any of the 3p megs actually have a replica firearms license. Certainly the law in Vic states that if its clearly a toy then no license is needed. Just keep it in 'bot mode and you should be fine. An xray of a boxed Megs in bot mode is not going to raise any flags.
And as noted above, Megatron in Bot Mode is not going to stop them from seeing it. Most might get through, but that's only because they only x-ray scan a small percentage of parcels entering the country.... not because they don't see a gun-mode Megatron.
Yes, that is the best course of action to eliminate your requirement to meet the needs of one of the two layers of gun-control in Australia... but if you are in a state that requires a permit, it is still up to the buyer to decide for themselves if they want to get one. They shouldn't be discouraged from getting one, if their state requires one.Quote:
Ideally buy it from an Aus supplier. That way customs doesn't factor in from your point of view.
That'd make a nice coffee table book! haha ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!
There are plenty of law-abiding collectors who hold permits (obviously except for SA & WA residents). I'm one of them. Here's what my permit looks like...
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y22...tronpermit.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y22...ronpermitt.jpg
Apologies, my intent is not to persude individuals one way or another. I was just voicing an opinion. Ideally, yes, people should follow the legal procedure and adhere to the law, albeit a ridiculous application of the law in this instance. I'll certainly look into the requirements for obtaining a license as I'd like to nab a 2.0 Megs hassle free. Although technically I've been breaking the law since 85 when I first got Megatron. And then I became a recidivist when I scored MP 05.Quote:
Originally Posted by griffin
I don't know the VIC requirements but it is really not that hard in NSW and it's renewed, free of charge, every 5 years. Honestly it seems that a lot of people don't obtain it due to being lazy or ignorant.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chevron Action Flash
FYI I am not casting either aspersion on you, just voicing an observation. Whilst I'm not sure about G1 megs, they have specifically stated you need one for MP5 so I wouldnt expect 2.0 megs to be any different. Either way I have the permit so no issue for me.
Interestingly, picked up MP5G recently and wasn't caught by customs.
G1 Megs can shoot real pellets in gun mode! And more realistic size (?).Quote:
Originally Posted by Raider
G1 Megs is still by far the most accurate Walther P38 transformer ever produced.
The only Megatron I have ever owned is the recent Tank alt mode Combiner Wars version. So I will do whatever it takes in terms of licensing to finally get a G1 style gun version after 30 odd years of Transformers collecting.
Absolutely. That bot mode though... *cough penis trigger*Quote:
Originally Posted by Trent
Robot chicken did it perfectly :p:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Ralph Wiggum
Penis trigger
I was under the impression you had to pay to get these permits renewed? I wonder if its only free in NSW?Quote:
Originally Posted by Raider
If the renewal of the permit is free in Victoria, then I'll definitely get one once Megatron 2.0 is offically confirmed by Takara.
Really my biggest gripe was having to pay $188.20 every three years for a damn toy robot
Only the reissues. The original G1 Megatron doesn't shoot anything. Also the turret that's formed by the snipering accessories can also shoot bullets too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Megatran
I see your Megatron and raise you an Astro Magnum. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ralph Wiggum
The Microman originals could fire bullets.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime
True. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by gamblor916
Had to share this incredible painted artwork based on the prototype, by Cosmitron75 on TFW. Could easily pass as the collectors card art!
http://i.imgur.com/m9a3jQR.jpg