Masterpiece Blackarachnia

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Originally Posted by bowspearer

I wouldn't disregard them that much. Bumblebee is on preorder for $137.90+GST - less than $15 less than Cordon ex-GST. I'd count on this figure being far closer to $300 than $200 on preorder.

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Their price for Bumblebee is accurate because the rest of the US stores have revealed their price and they have followed suit:

https://tfsource.com/masterpiece/mp-45-bumblebee/

https://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Produ...nDetails/87983

https://www.thechosenprime.com/MP45BumblebeeV2

https://www.toydojo.com/transformers...e-version-2-0/

https://collecticontoys.com/collecti...p-45-bumblebee

As I said in my original post, Collecticon Toys also jumped the gun with MP-44 and set his price at an insane amount -- I think it was $1000.

They subsequently dialled this price back and in-line with the rest of the US stores.

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Originally Posted by MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!

Their price for Bumblebee is accurate because the rest of the US stores have revealed their price and they have followed suit:

https://tfsource.com/masterpiece/mp-45-bumblebee/

https://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Produ...nDetails/87983

https://www.thechosenprime.com/MP45BumblebeeV2

https://www.toydojo.com/transformers...e-version-2-0/

https://collecticontoys.com/collecti...p-45-bumblebee

As I said in my original post, Collecticon Toys also jumped the gun with MP-44 and set his price at an insane amount -- I think it was $1000.

They subsequently dialled this price back and in-line with the rest of the US stores.

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I'm not denying any of that - I'm simply saying that a price closer to $300 than 200 definitely fits the pricing trend. After all lest we forget that Cheetor was less than $100 and this new bumblebee is close to 2.5x the price of MP-21.

Until we have a better source (and I acknowledge after MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!'s comments that my earlier source is not credible) there's no point playing guessing games.

Some pics of Blackarachnia in proper deco have surfaced. :D
Source: https://hobby.dengeki.com/event/7556...EgmilQzLjo18GY

https://i.ibb.co/K7MsM7w/59924441-79...62590720-n.png
https://i.ibb.co/0M7g00M/59948665-86...99591168-o.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/RPz5kG5/59689200-79...14540544-n.png

Give me beast mode!!

Robot mode looks great

How in the name of my great aunt Arcee is she going to turn into a spider...

I can't wait to see it

Totally j!ZZtacul&r.

Cant wait for this.

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Originally Posted by Tha_Phantom

https://i.ibb.co/RPz5kG5/59689200-79...14540544-n.png

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MP-46 BLACK WIDOW (BEAST WARS)
On Sale This Autumn

But it's autumn now~! :p :D ;)

justshutupandtakemymoney.jpg

So today's grain of salt rumour is that she will cost 15,000yen, which seems fair.

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Originally Posted by Shirokaze

So today's grain of salt rumour is that she will cost 15,000yen, which seems fair.

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Hmmmm... nearly $200AU, might put her out of my reach

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Originally Posted by Shirokaze

So today's grain of salt rumour is that she will cost 15,000yen, which seems fair.

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Originally Posted by BigTransformerTrev

Hmmmm... nearly $200AU, might put her out of my reach

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Yes but remember that's the RRP. With pre-order discounts this would come down to ~10,000 Yen (A$130) before shipping if purchased from one of the Japanese retailers. The person that posted the price claims to be a TT employee and has been on the money with other MP stuff so I expect this to be accurate. So that's quite reasonable compared to other recent MPs (MP-44, MP45 etc).

I'm super tempted but don't know if I'd pay 200 smackers for it. Might wait for a cheaper LMIB to surface later as I did with MP Cordon and as someone else I know recently did with MP43 Beast Meggie (these toys are in mint condition but the box has been opened so the price is nearly half RRP)

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Originally Posted by DaptoDog

Yes but remember that's the RRP. With pre-order discounts this would come down to ~10,000 Yen (A$130) before shipping if purchased from one of the Japanese retailers. The person that posted the price claims to be a TT employee and has been on the money with other MP stuff so I expect this to be accurate. So that's quite reasonable compared to other recent MPs (MP-44, MP45 etc).

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$130 seems a lot more reasonable, I'd be willing to pay that. Spose the price is still speculation at this point though. If she ends up super expensive then I'll have to bypass and save my money for Seige Jetfire and Omega.

If she is going to be cheaper with pre-orders, I can see them selling out fast. I never can navigate TTmall so I can just hope I log onto HLJ in the right timeframe to nab one.

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Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime

I'm super tempted but don't know if I'd pay 200 smackers for it. Might wait for a cheaper LMIB to surface later as I did with MP Cordon and as someone else I know recently did with MP43 Beast Meggie (these toys are in mint condition but the box has been opened so the price is nearly half RRP)

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What does LMIB stand for? Less than Mint in Box or something?

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Originally Posted by BigTransformerTrev

$130 seems a lot more reasonable, I'd be willing to pay that. Spose the price is still speculation at this point though. If she ends up super expensive then I'll have to bypass and save my money for Seige Jetfire and Omega.

If she is going to be cheaper with pre-orders, I can see them selling out fast. I never can navigate TTmall so I can just hope I log onto HLJ in the right timeframe to nab one.

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I pre-order from Nippon-Yasan and they leave them open for months, they don't close quick. Anime-Export does sell out quick though but their pricing is no better than NY and at least with NY you don't have to pay up front. You can also choose to combine pre-orders before payment to save shipping. HLJ and AmiAmi are also good pre-order options.

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Originally Posted by BigTransformerTrev

What does LMIB stand for? Less than Mint in Box or something?

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I'm thinking Loose Mint In Box.

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Originally Posted by UltraMarginal

I'm thinking Loose Mint In Box.

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Loose mint in box sounds like a contradiction to me, it's either loose or it's in the box, can't be both. MIB (mint in box) or BIB (back in box) makes more sense.

Well, I guess I need to reconsider my plan of forgoing G1 MPs and just getting BW MPs. At this rate I might never buy another MP.

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Originally Posted by Tha_Phantom

Loose mint in box sounds like a contradiction to me, it's either loose or it's in the box, can't be both. MIB (mint in box) or BIB (back in box) makes more sense.

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I know right? Met someone selling misb but clearly it’s opened! People are not using the correct term correctly.

An unconfirmed list of accessories for Blackarachnia posted on TFW...

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• Retail price : Yen 15000
• Release date: November
• Package size : 165 mm × 85 mm x 240 mm
• 1x Black Widow (Blacrachnia’s Japanese name) Body
• 1x Smile Parts
• 1x Screaming face parts
• 1x Poison Anchor
• 1x Anchor Missile
• 1x Visor
• 1x Visor cable
• 1x Cord
• 4x Spider Web Parts
• 1x TF power Base
• 1x ARM
• 1x Adapter A
• 1x Adapter B
• 1x Character card
• 1x User manual

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Welp, looks like I'm sticking with my slightly-modded LG one then. That's a pricey meatball!

So I saw these, I knew the beast mode would be borked, hoping something went wrong here though because this is a little hard to swallow
https://scontent.fmel5-1.fna.fbcdn.n...59&oe=5D2A8579
https://scontent.fmel5-1.fna.fbcdn.n...d7&oe=5D573FE8

Takara did their best. Thankfully, and much like Dinobot, I prefer robot modes.

On the other hand $200 is too much for what is essentially Cheetor size.

*looks at skinny robot body*
*looks at fat spider*
*looks at skinny robot body*
*looks at fat spider*

To be honest, I'm impressed at how they've shifted the mass around. Beastformers aren't an easy thing, so I'm willing to be more forgiving of them if their beast modes aren't perfect. I'm happy that they prioritised the bot mode over spider and am in for this 100%. Now give! :D

Gotta admit, I reckon that’s the coolest looking Transformer spider I’ve ever seen

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Originally Posted by griffin

An unconfirmed list of accessories for Blackarachnia posted on TFW...

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that's alot of accessories. I knew that spider web+ stand would bump up the price.

She is more substantial than Cheetor, so i'm ok with this i guess. Cheetor's r.r.p is ~7k yen so she's twice that plus the accessories and more complex engineering.

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Originally Posted by griffin

An unconfirmed list of accessories for Blackarachnia posted on TFW...

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Do not tempt me Frodo, for I do not know the grip she will have on me.:eek:

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Originally Posted by BigTransformerTrev

What does LMIB stand for? Less than Mint in Box or something?

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Replied here

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Originally Posted by UltraMarginal

I'm thinking Loose Mint In Box.

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Cheers mate

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Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime

Replied here

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Why did you link to a whole other thread just to say ‘yeah, what UltraMarginal said’? :confused:

If I do get Blackarachnia, which at this point is a big if, I won't be too worried about the spider mode looking bad because the robot mode is amazing and I display in robot mode.

I want the spider web. Stuff the figure.:)

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Originally Posted by BigTransformerTrev

Cheers mate



Why did you link to a whole other thread just to say ‘yeah, what UltraMarginal said’? :confused:

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I assumed it was to avoid derailing this thread. Best to continue the LMIB discussion over there.

I cannot think of too many repaint potentials for this mould other than a Hasbro toy-accurate redeco. Appeal for the Japanese market would be limited as they never had this deco in their market (original JP Black Widow had a more cartoon-like colour scheme so may be too similar to the standard version)
https://i.ibb.co/x2mQdz8/temp.jpg

Official Blackarachnia pics

So.... have TakaraTomy sacrificed potential remoulds of Tarantulas and Tigatron just to make Blackarachnia and Cheetor more screen-accurate (for fans to spend hundreds of dollars on a toy that is more for display, than play).
It seems that the alt mode of Cheetor and both modes of Blackarchnia (the main body, not the legs, which could be easily swapped out for thicker tarantula legs), might not be able to support the engineering of transformation. Maybe that's why the BW Masterpieces are so much more expensive, because they can't factor in profit from redecos and remoulds like they could with most of the Gen1 MPs.

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Originally Posted by Tober

Official Blackarachnia pics

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http://www.toycollectors.com.au/news/2019/052101.jpg
http://www.toycollectors.com.au/news/2019/052102.jpg


http://www.toycollectors.com.au/news/2019/052103.jpg
http://www.toycollectors.com.au/news/2019/052104.jpg
http://www.toycollectors.com.au/news/2019/052105.jpg


http://www.toycollectors.com.au/news/2019/052106.jpg


They are definitely highlighting it's poseability in robot mode, and I guess if the toy didn't do all those feminine poses and moves like in the cartoon, it wouldn't feel "real" as the ultimate (Masterpiece) Blackarachnia toy.

Also a promo video from TakaraTomy on youtube.

Continuing the trend of recent MPs being released in America (with an extra outer "English" box for the American market), it looks like Blackarachnia (Blackwidow) will get an American release as well... which means it could come here (if somewhere like Zing are interested).

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Originally Posted by griffin

So.... have TakaraTomy sacrificed potential remoulds of Tarantulas and Tigatron just to make Blackarachnia and Cheetor more screen-accurate (for fans to spend hundreds of dollars on a toy that is more for display, than play).
It seems that the alt mode of Cheetor and both modes of Blackarchnia (the main body, not the legs, which could be easily swapped out for thicker tarantula legs), might not be able to support the engineering of transformation. Maybe that's why the BW Masterpieces are so much more expensive, because they can't factor in profit from redecos and remoulds like they could with most of the Gen1 MPs.

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You'd think they could go for a transmetals look with minor mods.

This toy will not be big, so those arachnid legs are probably about as thin as they can be,

lol at that product description. I sense Google Translate at play. :D