I did not like Endgame much at all. Like most series, their hands are tied with where they can take the film, and Infinity War did this brilliantly. But this time I did not enjoy either the plot, the pacing, or maybe both.
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I did not like Endgame much at all. Like most series, their hands are tied with where they can take the film, and Infinity War did this brilliantly. But this time I did not enjoy either the plot, the pacing, or maybe both.
Except that Marvel didn't need saving. They had already put themselves in the black, released Iron Man and Incredible Hulk, with Iron Man 2 nearly completed.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime
As a side note, did the mouse actually activate the van, or did it happen to be there when Ant-Man came back? Because when talking to Tony, he does claim that he got himself back.
Just think about the poor bloke who moved on and re-married only for his wife to come back...Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetsuwan Convoy
I would have to re-watch, however I thought the whole ship was shrunk down with the stolen pym particles and was in Nebula's pocket or something?Quote:
Originally Posted by Autocon
My guess is that Thanos and his cronies managed to get an idea of how the time machine worked based on Nebula’s memories, and managed to reverse engineer the Pym particles they took from her, in order to transport the ship forward through time.
I loved both Endgame and Inifinity War for different reasons since they were obviously entirely different movies. Endgame had more emotive moments, I teared up numerous times. Whereas Infinity War was non-stop action and had the much better insight into Thanos as Trent mentioned.
Having seen Endgame twice now I have a feeling that Infinity War will prove more rewatchable for me personally since I'm usually looking for a good action movie to watch on a Friday night after a long week at work. I have a feeling the time travel concept in Endgame will end up losing its gimmicky appeal and I'll be impatiently waiting (or fast forwarding) to get to the 3rd act. Would be interested to hear what everyone else thinks about the rewatchability of these two films?
I always knew that Spider-Man Far From Home was going to take place after Endgame, but lots of people speculated that it was a prequel to Infinity War. The new Spider Man trailer proves that it is indeed after Endgame.
I've only re-watched Iron Man twice, Incredible Hulk twice, Iron Man 2, twice, GotG once.... and that's it.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaptoDog
Over all, Ii haven't really experienced the need to re-watch the Marvel MCU. Not sure if it's a, me getting older thing, or if it seems more like a TV show with so many instalments, where a re-watching in my mind feeling like a 22 movie mission?
Oh my son and I rewatch a lot of the Marvel movies, we have them all on Blu-ray. Guess it's something kids do and it's nice to watch them together. I remember as a kid recording movies off the TV and watching them over and over. Terminator 2, Aliens, White Men Can't Jump etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by KELPIE
I'd say the most rewatchable for us in the MCU in no particular order are Infinity War, Thor Ragnorak, Civil War, Black Panther and Guardians of the Galaxy 2 (he is going to watch the 1st one this weekend with me for the first time so I'd say this will be added).
*on screen high five*Quote:
Originally Posted by DaptoDog
I do the same with my daughter. She's actually watched Infinity War many more times than I have! :D
Her ardent wish is for Marvel and DC characters to team up.
Great movie, not a five star one but easily a solid four. It set out what it needed to do in a great way, slow pacing at times gave certain situations the gravitas they deserved.
I love that Scarlet Witch got to showcase her power albeit towards the end, I think Hemsworth stole the show and the ending to Stark was so well done, to be honest I didn't expect it and it made it all the more I'm not crying you're crying.
I wont go watch it again due to its run time but will definitely get it on BR and enjoy it properly in the comfort of my own home with close proximity to tissues and toilet. :D:D
Lots and lots of tributes to Tony Stark popping up on YouTube lately. Most notable is the one featuring Queen's The Show Must Go On and the one with Daft Punk's Robot Rock (that awesome tune from the Iron Man vs War Machine scene of Iron Man 2.....love it).
Since the infinity stones had to be returned so that the original timeline isn't affected, how is Thanos able to go thru both timelines?
Where is Loki now since he escaped? Did he really escape whether or not the tesseract was stolen?
It's kind of HP/Hermione going back in time and seeing themselves and that their future selves are really supposed to be there. :)
Theres now a new time line where thanos leaves through a time tunnel and never returns so events do not unfold from that point on.
How does Cap. A travel back to this time line?
One theory I've heard is that future movies might reveal this. It's essentially rebooted Loki's timeline allowing him to potentially appear in Phase IV movies, and this time he's still a complete bad guy. The heroic Loki who was killed by Thanos remains dead. It allows the story to have Loki back as a villain without undoing the incredible character development done with Loki Prime.Quote:
Originally Posted by jazzcomp
Cap.A went back in time and stopped loki from escaping while returning the stones. If he escapes it starts a new time line.
If events do not unfold as he died leaving thru the time tunnel, then he never collected the stones in the original timeline.Quote:
Originally Posted by Autocon
Cap didn't travel back. :D He just let time pass and live from the 1950's (or whichever decade) and that's why he's old now.
Just puts a wrench in the whole timeline as two tesseracts now exist at the same time. One with Loki and one that was returned.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime
Starts a new timeline and changes the timeline where he was returned to Asgard and was killed by Thanos later on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Autocon
So basically, they messed up the timeline even if they returned the stones and the effects/changes to the new timeline is unknown.
Really funny references to all the time travel movies but doesn't really explain how their time travel logic works as it may also affect them.
RE: Time travel plotholes
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/he...rgiven-1206333
Yeah, that's why I said it must be an age thing, when I was younger I'd re-watch everything. Now a bit older and no kids of my own, time is harder to come by and when I have it, I want to spend it on other things.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaptoDog
Yup and that timeline is screwed. Without a Gamora in that timeline, Ego the living planet should be successful in basically performing genocide on the whole universe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Autocon
He can't just live through to where they are now. That's not how "time travel" works in these movies. Unfortunately it was a bit of a goof.Quote:
Originally Posted by jazzcomp
The Directors in an interview have said that Cap used the watch to travel back at some point later in life from his alternate timeline. This all conveniently happened off screen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Autocon
Nope, still one Tesseract and Loki has it. The one that was returned was returned earlier on in that same timeline.Quote:
Originally Posted by jazzcomp
Yeah, sure is messed up :PQuote:
Originally Posted by jazzcomp
Also, an annoying thing to think about is - Nice of Cap to return the stones to their original spots... but he only took the stones back. How exactly is putting them back going to work?
The tesseract was crushed leaving only the stone inside, the staff with the mind stone was left behind, the orb for the power stone is also missing and the reality stone should be umm, liquefied and injected back into Jane Foster somehow?
Saw another reply that he time travelled to this time to give the shield. :) Anything's possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by KELPIE
Ok. My mistake. :D I forgot about going back further since they lost it to Loki.Quote:
Nope, still one Tesseract and Loki has it. The one that was returned was returned earlier on in that same timeline.
I enjoyed the movie despite plot holes.
Nabula actually felt like one of the main heroes she changed to a better character.
I for one actually didn’t feel iron man needed to snap his fingers. Scarlet witch and marvel could definitely take Thanos down for good. You could use a few stones and especially you have time stone, play it the way you want.
The female moment should not have happened, wasn’t needed and should be a mix team effort.
Makes you wonder if Loki is actually dead also.
You all realise that there a major plot holes with every conceivable time travel story ever told right? Terminator was no less garbage in that regard.
Yep absolutely. I just prefer to not worry with that stuff and just enjoy the movie for what it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trent
I was actually surprised that Iron man snapped his figures vanishing Thanos and his forces. It wasn’t his first choice, the battle just played out that way. Captain Marvel almost stopped Thanos but was blasted away with the power stone in a tricky move. At that point Iron man was close by and needed to act.Quote:
Originally Posted by drifand
The female moment ‘she is not alone’ was a reference to infinity war when black widow and two others were fighting Proxima, the same phrase was spoken. Its silly because all the female heroes line up, I would of preferred a proper fight scene. Maybe there was just don’t remember it. That last battle felt short and over quickly.
Don’t think Loki is dead, he is the god of Mischief, a Trickster, almost anything is possible.
yeah but this one is annoying when they go to lengths to actually explain in the movie how it will work for them but then go against that by having captain america grow old and live in the same timeline.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trent
Thought the movie was an excellent conclusion to phase 3. Was worried about the length but it had so much action the way through to keep it entertaining. Look forward to the next batch of Marvel movies although its going to be strange without Cap & Ironman.
This is how I’m able to sit back and enjoy the movie :D
https://youtu.be/x8w95xIdH4o?t=26
But literally any explanation they came up with would have had at least 1 glaring hole in it. I’m just glad that Endgame tried something different with a frankly cliched and boring idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by philby
That about sums it up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ralph Wiggum
Pretty true, although a few rare stories like The Time Machine and Interstellar do a better job than others. Also, Avengers is a story with a talking raccoon, so... :p ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Trent
In Honesty when I watched it the first time I was feeling meh.... about it but I have rewatched about twice now and I felt it was quite well done.
Overall I am not disappointed. Sure we can always say it could have been better, but it is good enough.
When it's only comparison / competition is the Justice League movie, this is a masterpiece :pQuote:
Originally Posted by jazzcomp
^ this.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaptoDog
Yay I can now comment. Finally saw the movie today and loved it. Some minor grievances but overall really enjoyed it. The funeral for Tony got me in the feels. I don't think I've ever shed a tear at a movie before but i did for this. When seeing his daughter at the funeral just got me as a parent.
Must say overall I enjoyed the plot. It was not what I expected but it didn't pull that subverting expectation crap (cough TLJ cough). I wish they hadn't used time travel but otherwise was very pleased. Did Tony call Thor Lebowski? If so that was brilliant.
He did. And it was.:D:D:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Raider
Saw it a second time. Saw more in the final battle. Will get it on blu ray just to pause through the battle scenes.
Do you think spider man goes to the other earth with mysterio and that allows sony to make its own universe without interfering with the mcu, and then they can bring back spidey in the future.
When pausing through the action scenes... look for the oops moment with Antman.
Antman in the van waiting for the gauntlet. Black Panther running the gauntlet to him with..... Antman (in giant form) in the background punching a monster.
If there's going to be a continuation of Iron Man then Harley Keener (the kid) will be the key. Furthermore, if you've seen the All Hail The King short movie then you'll know that Aldrich Killian is not the real Mandarin and therefore Iron Man's nemesis is still out there.
Will have to look.Quote:
Originally Posted by KELPIE
Where do you view the hail the king short?
All Hail The King is on YouTube.Quote:
Originally Posted by Autocon
May as well watch: "A funny thing happened on the way to Thor's hammer" while you're there.Quote:
Originally Posted by shockNwave
I watched it and I find it's not even worth calling it a cheap thrill. I wish it had more substance.:(Quote:
Originally Posted by KELPIE
Wow, hard task master.Quote:
Originally Posted by shockNwave
Considering it was one of the first and meant as a nice bit of fun connecting Iron Man 2, to Thor, I thought it was great.
I won't ask you to watch the others then ;)
The Consultant
A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to Thor's Hammer
Item 47
Agent Carter
All Hail the King