Looks nice. Probably way more expensive than I would ever pay for yet another MP Starscream.
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Looks nice. Probably way more expensive than I would ever pay for yet another MP Starscream.
Gorgeous. Now this is the Starscream I know and grew up with. I can?t wait for Skywarp and Thundercracker. I?m in for 2 of each.
You may be right. I'm seeing something that looks like it could be a piece of the rear fuselage and vertical stabiliser of the F-15 on Starscream's back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulbot
There seems to be a double joint on the wings, visible in the profile and rear drawings, which looks like it connects two layers of the wing. It looks like part of the transformation involves getting the ventral surface (underside) of the wing, flipping it down, swinging up the tail so it lies along the wing, and flipping the lower layer back up to cover it.
Looking at the legs and feet, it looks like the exhaust nozzles shift backwards to form the heels - this, combined with the bigger front of the foot, should give more stability when standing up straight than MP-3.
That thing looks like it is going to have one heck of a backpack, of all the jet parts that aren't robot parts. There looks to be several layers of kibble on the back.
Looks like someone at TakaraTomy agreed with what I was thinking, as this one is being called version 2.Quote:
Originally Posted by griffin
Still not a fan of the "x.0" gimmick. If they never have any other number after the decimal point, it is redundant, and a lame throwback to a concept that doesn't get used much in common vernacular these days anyway.
The backpack is actually quite unexpected, despite the recent complicated panel MPs with huge ones. I would have thought they could still pull off the seeker look while keeping it clean. The front looks nice and proportions a little less awkward than the MP-11 and MP-3 (I can’t stand MO-3, he looks bad).
It’s probably gonna be a tough sell for many, given they just completed the coneheads on the MP-11 version (itself a rework of MP-3) and many would have invested also in the Thundercracker, Skywarp and Sunstorm made in the past decade. The price definitely won’t help. MPs have definitely gone out of a price range that is reasonable to me (despite only having a few from the line).
No interest for me. good for those who just started. I dont care for it, I have my 6. I hope these tank and realise many have moved on.
The full-size scans from the Figure King hobby magazine that had the Starscream reveal.Quote:
Originally Posted by High_Q
It notes 2021 in one of the paragraphs, which is likely to be when it gets released. That doesn't give them much time to do up prototypes and production, but usually in the past, the concept images are only released after a prototype is produced to make sure it can work... so I expect a prototype revealed in the next few months, as they put it through its tests before production.
This is strange. The first images that were revealed the other day showed the book noting on its cover that this new Starscream is version 2, but the paragraph inside the book next to the Starscream image (was too small to read in the quoted link), notes "version 3"... so maybe the publisher got it wrong somewhere, and we still have no official word on what TakaraTomy are calling this toy.
The problem with buying a new Starscream is buying the other 5 (or more) seekers to match. No thanks, I will stick with my current set, I like both my kidneys where they are.
If your reference was to the text to the bottom left hand of the frontal image of MP SS, then the text says "Convoy Ver. 3.0", with 'Convoy' in Japanese characters, if i'm not mistaken.Quote:
Originally Posted by griffin
Ah thanks. If I had had more time I would have translated it to be sure.
Grey prototype images of Starscream have appeared. Enjoy.
https://www.seibertron.com/transform...sion-20/45163/
Enjoyed. :) It looks very poseable and I like the animation model proportions. Its backpack is larger than MP SS v1.5's but the presence of wings make the backpack appear less bulky.Quote:
Originally Posted by DELTAprime
I still don't see any pics showing sideways waist rotation on this figure; maybe he doesn't articulate this way.
Guess V1.5 for MP-11 is a thing. I was saying that in a group chat last night too.Quote:
Originally Posted by High_Q
I could say I don't want to do MP seekers all over again but chances are I'd cave at some point, so may as well get on board now. Does look quite nice so far!
The images look to be from one of the main Japanese hobby magazines, so we should get some clearer scans soon.
http://www.toycollectors.com.au/news/2020/082501.jpg
http://www.toycollectors.com.au/news/2020/082502.jpg
http://www.toycollectors.com.au/news/2020/082503.jpg
http://www.toycollectors.com.au/news/2020/082504.jpg
http://www.toycollectors.com.au/news/2020/082505.jpg
http://www.toycollectors.com.au/news/2020/082506.jpg
http://www.toycollectors.com.au/news/2020/082507.jpg
Couldn't be any more less interested in this version of Starscream & another set of Seekers.
Why you be like that. I'm already looking forward to V3.14159265358979Quote:
Originally Posted by Sinnertwin
Boy, TT are really going for the ?bugger the rear look? approach aren?t they? I mean the older designs weren?t 100% perfect but at least they looked decent from all angles.
i dig it. the back looks pretty neat imo. I just hope there's no electronics to bump up the price..
You kinda accept another refinement of say Optimus Prime - he is the figurehead of the toyline and will always be one for maximum optimisation (and sales), and he is a unique mold so you buy him and you're done for that mold character wise, repaints are just for profiteering. But Starscream generates a MINIMUM of 5 genuine repaints/retools for the other primary G1 toon characters - and they've already released them all once before. It just speaks volumes of them knowing they can milk collectors imo.
Chest looks too boxy, the toon version drawings had nice rounded corners on the chest. No waist articulation again is a bummer, there is ab crunch though, all the mass is shifted to the backpack for tail wings, seen this done on 3rd party SS.
Hard to get excited for this, been really happy with wfc stuff lately, I don't feel like replacing my MP11 set and we know this is going to be pricey.
Looking at how the wings open up, it looks like there's a panel that covers the tail fins, which fold up towards the back, and then twist sideways to hide beneath the lifted panel.
If that's true, it just speaks to my current dissatisfaction with the current direction of the MP line, which seems to be overengineering the figure and sacrificing playability and in order to get maximum likeness.
It's partly what has had me go pretty much all in on Siege and Earthrise as Shogo Hasui is now leading the engineering for those figures, and they now seem to have the same balance of character accuracy and engineering that made the MP-10 era of figures that he designed so satisfying.
Right with you there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seraphim Prime
I dunno... I guess the thought of taking two and a half g's and parking it on a shelf just didn't appeal to me this time...Quote:
Originally Posted by Unicran
I think it looks alright, but not sufficiently amazing from the previous seeker mold to justify getting a whole set, even less so compared to the third party one Maketoys released.
I may get one though, as I do enjoy complex engineering if done well.
I am very curious to see the final product for Starscream. So far the pictures seem to show him as being a lot more smooth and dynamic than past versions.
Whether this actually puts a lot of collectors over the line is yet to be seen. So many bought the many various versions of MP-11 which was from a time of the not super duper expensive MPs. Recently we've gone into that super expensive territory, probably beginning with Sunstreaker. If this new one has that uber expensive price for not much improvement, I see potentially a lot more people being turned off. Gone are the days of good deals on figures like Ultra Magnus.
As expected, clear scans of the Figure King magazine have been posted up, showing off Starscream.
Who is the two headed orange figure? What does it transform into?
Thundercracker is a very light pale blue that ive never seen before
Doublecrosser.Quote:
Originally Posted by Autocon
Ramp/Shield
I'll probably get Starscream, Thundercracker and Skywarp (not really a coneheads fan). I only have MP-07 Starscream and missed all the MP-11s. This version is perhaps the definitive cartoon Starscream like MP-36 and MP-44 were from Megatron and Optimus. But too bad they can't make a straight air intake become gently curved.
If Starscream comes out in 2021, how long before Thundercracker and Skywarp come along do you think?
Scans from a new Figure King Magazine in Japan, showing off more of the Starscream figure (grey prototype).
TFSource has preorders up for MP-52 Starscream v2.0, at USD275 ea. There are blurred coloured images of this item too.
Wow, that's about AUD$400. This will really have to be the definitive version for that price. And even then...Quote:
Originally Posted by High_Q
So that’s $2400 for the main 6.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skyfire
Lol.
Coloured images!
https://news.tfw2005.com/2020/10/08/...-421503#images
It's a yes from me!
I'm really happy for those who will pick up this one...he looks really nice.
But it's a no for me based on already have the seeker set and price.
Seeing the in colour images shows the drastic improvement this is over MP-11. I was thinking I might just grab Screamer but put me down for the trio.
Does anyone else think that the vertical tail fins are simply removed rather than part of the transformation? The figure looks great in bot mode but there are some decent design compromises for the F-15.
Ya know, it does look like the tail fins are simply removed. Well, that kinda sucks a bit. But if it's AU$400+, a definite no. Even it's half that I'd only consider it. Engineering aside, I think I've been priced out of collecting MP.
Nah, they're inside the robot mode wings. You can just see them in the 5th pic but you can kinda tell how they store in the gerwalk mode.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetfire in the sky
Oh yea, now I can see it. Must have some interesting transformation then.