ahh just you waitQuote:
Originally Posted by STL
not only do i have to save for all the figures now, i also have to save for all the paint im going to need :P
My headmaster army will be a formidable adversary my friend
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ahh just you waitQuote:
Originally Posted by STL
not only do i have to save for all the figures now, i also have to save for all the paint im going to need :P
My headmaster army will be a formidable adversary my friend
All talk, Jennifer. All talk.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackie
i maximum dare one of you customerisers to repaint Beast cybertron or 10th Anniversary Megatron into Maximum Dinobots Grimlock
the toy looks like the IDW grimlock to me
The latest issue looked like it has some Purple Sunstreaker (Dia)Clones. :)
Pretty good issue too and the best fiction version of the characters Grimlock called for help I've ever seen. I found the sixth Eureka robot's final comment to Skywatch very funny.
But I was also shocked by the violence in this. See what Grimlock does to one Clone! :eek: I've never seen an Autobot do something like that to a human (outside of the mind control in Dreamwave's first series which doesn't really count). Woah! Hardcore!
I just got #3 today, and I have to say that I am loving this series. Grimlock's 'reinforcements' were totally off-the-wall in their choice, and I think that is awesome.
Could not agree more, those three never got much love in any previous media, and they were not whom I was expecting!Quote:
Originally Posted by SilverDragon
The art by Roche is getting better and better, his work on HR in particular really rook me back to the G2 in terms of damage shown to the robots, great stuff.
Story didnt move heaps, but it did something not yet seen in AHM, some character development, these Dynobots are not Cardboard cut-outs.
And nice to get some closure on other characters who I assume would have had bigger roles had not AHM come along.
I did a bit of re-reading today, and I'm finding the gags (all two of them) regarding Grimlock's speech pattern in the cartoon to be quite funny. It's good that they're not overdone-that keeps them from getting stale.
This has gotten me interested in reading more of the IDWverse comics (not AHM, since that apparently drops the stealth aspect of the other comics-which is what interests me-to have the 'cons blow stuff up). Where would I be able to find the trade paperbacks?
TFAW is where I get my comics from. In US dollars but it ends up being much cheaper than the local stores (although maybe not so much now that the aussie dollar is so crap).
Anyway, they seem to have all the TPBs still. Infiltration, Stormbringer, Escalation, Devastation, Revelation, the 3 Spotlights and AHM.
http://www.tfaw.com/Search/_results_...t_at_search=30
Failing TFAW, you can try Amazon, whose prices are reasonable, and even though the $AU is down the gurgler after shipping prices are still competitive.
Some of the chain book stores like Borders and Angus and Robertson will order them in for you, but their prices are steep.
Kings Comics in Sydney also do nationwide shipping, but stock from those guys can be iffy, and prices are similar to Borders and co.
I have read Maximum Dinobots up to issue 3.
I am very much enjoying this series a lot more than AHM and I_amtrunks is absolutely right, there is a lot more story in these few issues than the whole run of AHM so far. This is the sort of Transformer comic I want to read, something that has an intriguing story, good action and unexpected appeareances from G1 characters beyond 84-86.
I do agree with people who don't like the Dinobots' new designs. I like Grimlock's but Snarl's and Swoop's are pretty shocking. They could have modernized the Dinosaur Altmode without impacting the robot mode as much, they did it for Grimlock so its possible.
When it comes to the story, I actually thought Swoop had left since traditionally he is the more 'emo' of the bunch and it showed here. The Dinobots received a lot more character development in these few issues than the 19 years since the end of Marvel G1.
The Monsterbots appearance blew me away and shows that Furman is still willing to give obscure or lesser known characters the spotlight without always dwelling on the 84-86 bunch. It is also good to see that as far as 'what came before' is concerned, this book has a good hold in continuity and does not appear to be breaking from it anytime soon.
I have a feeling that Furman is following his own story continuity with Maximum Dinobots and may not end up connecting it with AHM at all making the said comic series within a continuity Bubble of its own as it should have been from the start.
I expected Maximum Dinobots to start off with 'continuity damage control' but instead its gone to tell its own story following the previous 'Furman' continuity.
To me, it seems that AHM is in continuity with I/S/D/MD only because IDW as a business says so not because there is actual narrative in the books making it so unless something is radically forced in a single issue. So far there is nothing concrete in the narrative telling us that there is a conscious effort to amend these two 'continuities' into one and we are already late in the game.
It's like G1's Earthforce saga all over again! :D :)
Visually the main thing that bugs me about the Dynobots' design is Grimlock's red hands. What's with that?! Perhaps the Dynobots could be transported back to Cybertron if Grimlock claps his hands three times and says, "There's no place like home, there's no place like home, there's no place like home..." That crazy Wizard! ;)
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Originally Posted by kup
As did I.Quote:
Originally Posted by kup
I have an inkling that Max Dino's was all but completed storywise before IDW went and pulled the rug out from under Furman's feet, meaning that it ties into his own "-tion" stories perfectly without trying to lower itself to the level of AHM.
I truly want to see what is going to happen in Max Dino's, I have ideas and theories but I am still intrigued by it.
With AHM I find myself not caring what happens, as it all seems so irrelevant, as it's obvious as to whats going to happen regarding Prime and the Witwicky kid, and all the other plot points that have been brought up will be ignored.
From a lot of comments regarding AHM and how it shows disregard for the established IDWverse in favour of having the Deceptions blow stuff up and the cast all from 84-86 (sans Drift), I think the only real way it can fit is through being a micro-continuaty of its own, rather than tying into everything else.Quote:
Originally Posted by kup
any idea when the next dinobots is coming out?
Next week.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackie
There is a 4 page preview (they forgot to add a page) at Comics Continuum.
Loving the Repugnus cover.
Those are both really nice covers, although the Repugnus-riding-Sludge cover does it for me simply because IT IS AWESOME.
Despite my dislike of the Dinobot designs, Maximum Dinos does seem to be the most rewarding of IDW's comics of late. Those Monsterbots were an awesome suprise.
Its kinda a shame it will all end soon to tie in with AHM cause I really like the idea of Scorpinoks Machination its nice to see Humans working with a Decepticon for a change rather than the more common sterotypes of hapless inoccents caught in the war. Reminds me a lot of RAAT. Despite his somewhat questionable writting I did rather like Budianskys perchant for using human characters who were shades of grey.
I can't help but always wonder where the monsterbots get their alternative forms. (Same with the Terrorcons for that matter but I can think of plenty of theorys that make alot sence for them)
From inside their closets. ;)
Maybe they picked up Earth television broadcasts of old sword and sandal movies and though "Hey! Cool!" at the creatures, so they reformatted their alternate modes to appear like the monsters.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zahhak
I've been wondering why such monsters were branded Autobots in the first place. Did Hasbro see all the monster Pretenders and Headmasters (who were nearly all Decepticons) shelfwarming and wonder how well monster Transformers would sell if they were Autobots?
they got there monster modes after visiting a planet that had creatures like that, hence they look like monsters to the people of earth and Hasbro marketing
That would make the most sence I guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by roller
I always reasoned the Terrorcons were used as fear inducing troops hence their alt modes but it never made as much sence for the monsterbots..but then again They are renegades.
Repugnus old info said he was kicked out of the autobots more then once....speaking of which, In spotlight Arcee isin't he locked away in a spark prison?
Maybe they broke him out. At this point it doesn't directly contradict Furman canon as time has passed since then but it also smells like a continuity error as in 'I forgot'.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zahhak
They could have escaped when Garrus-9 was overrun, the holding facility did sustain large amounts of damage.Quote:
Originally Posted by kup
I think they might answer that in the next issue. After all, Repugnus did say that the Monsterbots were outcasts-which could imply that they're escaped prisoners in this continuaty.
Incidentally, looking back at the issue when Grimlock sends out the message to the Monsterbots, there was a clue to their appearence in the form of three of the symbols on the screen being insignia-like renditions of their monster mode heads.
These arent your G1 Cartoon Dinobots.
These Dinobots are smarter, they know Grimlock has been less than truthful with them about a number of things, yet they also know they prefer to be with the big lug than not, so they still follow him, even if it is to their deaths.
Not much of the Monsterbots in this issue, but we do get a cameo from someone who will be playing a much larger part in issue #5.
Scorponok is a pretty sneaky guy, and intelligent too. Would have made a decent main villain had Max Dino's been given an ongoing series.
Max Dino's 5 has alot of ground to cover to wrap things up nicely (personally I think it will be too much ground), not only do you have the Headmaster angle, but also the Grimlock/Shockwave story, Soundwave's story and some continuation from another spotlight (same fellow as the cameo mention above).
So like Revelations, Max Dino's may have been much better had AHM not been released.
I agree overall Max Dinos has given us much more in 4 issues than the 9 issues of AHM, only in the past 3 issues has AHM begun to get somewhere. Max Dino's overall story is also much more interesting as we don't know where its going specifically even if Sunstreaker's fate is now revealed while AHM appears to be on rails.Quote:
Originally Posted by i_amtrunks
I will be sad to see it end as its a nice mini-series.
It was also interesting seeing James Raiz make a return to doing TF art... kinda strange seeing Neo-G1 characters drawn in a style that I personally associated with Transformers Armada. I was almost waiting for Mini-Cons to appear! :)
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Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime
Seemed a little darker than his old Armada art, I really liked it actualy it reminded me of some of the old UK artists and made Swoop look less dumb.
Ravage and Laserbeak are sort of Mini-cons, though Rumble is 3 stories high for some reason.
anyone got an issue 2 they dont want anymore?
cant find it anywhere and the shops dont want to order it in
Issue #2 was ordered in very very low numbers so your best bet is to order it in I'll have a look for u but if I post from Melb, it'll cost u at least $10-$12 to get their safely.Quote:
Originally Posted by roller
greatQuote:
Originally Posted by STL
thanks
LOL! Thoze toiz look nothink like the charactuz frum Maximom Dinobotz. What iz Hasbor thinkink?Quote:
Originally Posted by kup
:p
The different artists clashed a bit for me. While I liked the scene in which Ravage and Laserbeak stole Soundwave, it just fell apart somewhat with continued sequences flipping from one art style to the other.
Holy crap, 5 is going to be one hell of a read.
I liked that at least an attempt was made to keep the line work close so that the styles wern't too jarring. That said James Raiz has come a long way since his Armada days.Quote:
Originally Posted by SilverDragon
Two thumbs waay up :)
Worst. Comic-accuracy. Ever. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by kup
Grimlock's overall 'engineering' remains identical even if 'kibble' has been changed to represent the corrected T-Rex shape.Quote:
Originally Posted by SilverDragon
Snarl is pretty much 'What the hell?' as he is completly redone from scratch which I find it odd as he didn't really have to be.
The same goes for Swoop and Slag (although to a lesser degree than Swoop).
When it comes to Sludge, its hard to see him properly but it seems that he like Grimlock, may have kept his general 'engineering' without major change (although robot mode detailing is way different) and despite his G1 alt mode becoming obsolete, he still passes as an Apatosaurus as the general shape of the dinosaur remains the same.
When it comes to my pic, Despite their differences in look and design, they are still Dinobots and identifiable. I am basically tributing a comic which focuses on the 5 characters that in comic form, have more or less remained the same as a group and individual characters particularly when it comes to Grimlock and Swoop.
Read issues 4 and 5 today. I think the story was let down by very sudden shifts in art style in both issues, almost page to page at times. The conclusion still makes me think that despite the events in AHM, spoiler Sunstreaker will live on, just like in the Furman Mosaic, as Hunter's just repressed the Sunstreaker part of his mind.
One thing I didn't expect was the spoiler appearance of Ultra Magnus. I liked the way this story gave closure to story elements from several Spotlights and the ongoing series.
#5 was one of the best written comics I have read in a long time.
The revelations comics suffered from their condensed nature, and I don't think even the die hard AHM fans (if they exist) could say that AHM has solid writing.
Wrapping up the character arcs for not only the title characters (and who they made their IDW debut with too) but another near half a dozen characters who have all recieved a decent amount of page time over the length of the IDW Furmanverse. The surprise addition of Hunter and Verity was nice, and somewhat needed since the truncated "-tions" series saw them removed altogether.
Will miss the scope and vastness of Furmans writing, especially when he signs off with such a strong issue.