I am gonna watch that youtube clip when there are less people in the office lol
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I am gonna watch that youtube clip when there are less people in the office lol
Heh, I guess faction symbols alone weren't enough. :p They did a similar thing in I, Robot too, only that the robots' torsoes would turn red if they were evil. Mmm... cheese fresh... :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Hot Rodimus
I prefer the blue personally, but that's mainly because I don't own a G1 Grimlock toy, and I'm too lazy to read the Marvel comics. :p I tried but gave up after the first four issues I think it was. So for me it's show-canon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hot Rodimus
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Originally Posted by Hot Rodimus
Blue-eyed Autobots and Red-eyed DecepticonsQuote:
Originally Posted by Hot Rodimus
Red, because it looks meaner, and blue is synonimus with mentaly challeneged Grimlock.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hot Rodimus
I prefer the eye color variations that we get in the toys and comics. All Transformers are divided by ideology not race so there is no reason why Autobots would have only blue eyes and Decepticons only red eyes.Quote:
Originally Posted by heroic_decepticon
Also some Decepticons do not consider themselves evil either (such as Carnivac or Catilla and even Thundercracker if he ever gets some characterisation) so there is no reason why their eyes should be red since they are not evil themselves .
isn't Catilla an Autobot (although he was in the Mayhem Attach Squad)?Quote:
Originally Posted by kup
I can agree with your view. And in that sense, saying that Autobots should have blue eyes and Decepticons should have red is almost like saying that there is only good and evil, black and white in the TF universe. It rules out the possibilities of grey.
Arguably, even Decepticons that may not be 'evil' all the time can/should have red eyes, unless they switch factions. Their starting point is that of a Decepticon and at the end of the day, they are still Decepticons even if they chose in particular moments not to be 'evil'. Just because Hitler "oversaw one of the greatest expansions of industrial production and civil improvement Germany had ever seen, mostly based on debt flotation and expansion of the military" does not mean he is less 'evil', and at the end of the day, he is still a nazi. He had chosen where he will stand and will be viewed as part of that collective notwithstanding the odd act that is inconsistent with the practices and ideaology of that faction.
What perhaps I'm lamenting most about is the gross lack of consistency in terms of eye colour. If bot X were to have colour Y eyes, then I'd hope that this would be consistent, at least across that particular field it appears in (ie: IDW comics). I feel something bordering on exasperation when there are wildly inconsistent eye colours say within the Dreamwave universe or even the IDW one.
But I think I must end with saying that where TF eye colour is concerned, it is very much a thing of personal preference, and my preference being such does not mean that it is any more right than another preference.
Here, here! Now lets all get drunk and play ping pong!
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Poor Thrust must be so confused...
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:)
According to Marvel G1 fiction: Catilla is a Decepticon who was willing to give up his Decepticon ideals and join the Autobots. Something that Catilla's friend, Carnivac was not ready to do despite joining the surviving Autobots after the Time Wars.Quote:
Originally Posted by heroic_decepticon
Also according to that G1 cartoon episode, their eyes don't change at will but rather changed because the Autobot themselves became evil so according to cartoon canon, eye color is not exactly a cosmetic change but something that manifests if the Transformer is evil or good.
As far as the comics were concerned, Catilla was a Decepticon with the heart of an Autobot. Carnivac was a Decepticon who, like Thundercracker should have been, doubted the Decepticon cause and ended up losing faith in it. Both Catilla and Carnivac allied themselves with the surviving Autobot members of the Wreckers (forming the Survivors) but Carnivac always steadfastly remained a Decepticon despite being allied with Autobots - a lot like how Blackarachnia insisted on remaining a Predacon for a long time despite being allied with Maximals.
Anyway, I think it's great that TakaraTOMY are going to so much effort into taking both the fans of the G1 cartoon and comics into account. Just set the eye colour to whichever your preference is. :)
Discriminating against red eyed Transformers is racist damnit.
Anyways based on the cartoon theory neutral Transfomers should have purple eyes.
Since this discussion is still continuing, (no one wanted to get drunk and play ping pong :() remember how when Skyfire and Starscream were friends? They were both scientists but Screamer still had red eyes. Maybe he's been evil all along!
Autobots who don't have blue eyes & Decepticons who don't have red eyes in the G1 cartoon. :)
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Outback has no eyes!
"Crikey, I'm blind drunk here"!
Oh yeh, READING posts seesm to help a lot dunnit?Quote:
Originally Posted by griffin
As for the eye debate. I am going for "Mood eyes" When I am agnry red all the way, when not angry, blue.
Now I just have to carry grimlock around with me everywhere and hand out little cards to people explaining the system...:p
Skyfire has to be the worlds smallest decepticon for a time, length of alliance not height you fool:pQuote:
Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime
Skyfire's career as a Decepticon lasted longer than Crosscut's. :p And remember that he (Jetfire) started off as a Decepticon in the G1 comics too. :)