WWE/WWF/TNA/Wrestling discussion thread - (may contain spoilers!!!)

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RAW was awesome tonight.

Vince vs Horny and Finlay KO's Vince with his Stick [Cage match next week, Vince vs Horny]

The new English guy that has been floating around comes out with his HOT HOT HOT sister and takes Kendrick apart.

Stupid Girl match [don't watch these]

JB vs Jherico [Finaly no DQ's and was a good match]

THEN OMG!

Jeff Hardy vs Shawn Michaels

It was like Kurt Angle vs ChrisBenoit

Honestly one of the greatest pairings of styles ever. It kept going and going and there were reversals and finishers left right and centre.....

Awesome awesome match!!!!

Damn I didn't get to see the Hardy/Michaels match. It was that good was it? I'll have to watch raw on sat to catch it.

Yeah I'm happy to see Burchill back in WWE. Shame he dropped the pirate gimmick though. That was always ggod for a laugh. But like you said Warps his sister is smokin so thats a positive:)

Overall I thought it was a good episode. (what I saw anyway)

Is Triple H going to be in the elimination chamber at No Way Out? since he hasn't been around on raw as Scattershot pointed out

By the way did anyone else think Burchill and his sister acted a bit too "close"?

Yes yes they did!

Well i though the Hardy HBK match was amazing.

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Originally Posted by Bartrim

By the way did anyone else think Burchill and his sister acted a bit too "close"?

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yeah it was a bit weird but she is hot so who cares :D

love that curb stomp he used on Kendrick too that was nasty

shame Burchill didn't use his usual C4 finisher that move PWNS!!
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/8...hillwwehn6.gif

I preferred it when Burchill was a pirate.

Hell no not me, i hope he gets a fan base this time and hangs around. I think he is a good wrestler with potential. But then again so was the big show but people never really got into it so he got bugger all titles.

My brother was telling me that Burchill left last time for knee reconstruction surgery. Apparently it happened using that C4 finisher which I agree totally rocks.:D

If you want to talk about kick ass finishers try and find footage of Survivor Series 96. I have it on video and the move Phil LaFon uses to pin Leif Cassidy in the first match is one of the most wicked moves I've ever seen.

Holy moly that is an awesome finisher. never seen it. Unbelievable and ppl say that wrestling is a load of crap. How much freaking skill does tht take!

HHH will be back for No way out. Stephs preggos again so I'd say thats why he was missing the last 2 weeks.

Oh yeah and raw was pretty damn.... i mean DAMN!!!...good....lol

Yeah I hate when people say wrestling is a load of crap. They are amazing athletes.

Back on the topic of awesome finishers have any of you guys seen "the pounce" that Marcus Cor Von uses. That move rocks.

I missed Smackdown last night, i managed to see a good match between Batista and MVP.
I'll catch the replay on Sunday.

bah it's my cousins 21st tonight so I'm going to have to tape No Way Out. I'll avoid the thread so I don't read any spoilers.

Booooooooooooooooo

I was at the range until 10pm

I MISSED IT!

I don't know if I'm like you guys but I have to find out the results to Raw live in the US to decide whether or not i'm going to watch the show on Wednesday here. For the past month or so, I've decided not to watch Raw on Fox8 as the show (in my opinion) was below average.

But yesterday's PPV proved Vince & his stooges don't listen to the marks at all. Who did the kids in the crowd at his shows want to see headline Mania? Jeff Hardy Don't they realise that by giving the marks what they want will encourage the marks to come back for more? But what do they do, they have Jeff winning clean over Main Eventers on Raw but PPV's see him being jobbed out - Rumble (loses to Orton) & NWO (lose to the "Golden Child" Paul Levesque McMahon himself. What a farce!!!!!

Then they say "Let's sucker in those marks (kids) again" by putting him in the MITB ladder match at Mania. Even when Jeff retrieves the briefcase in that, his chance at the belt won't mean squat. :mad:

& Kennedy (my favourite current rassler by far) is stuck in some drivel match against that dried-up prune in Flair where he'll just be forced to job out again (just as he did at NWO yesterday). Kennedy won the MITB match last Mania & what did that lead to? Nothing :mad: (Damn Ken Anderson getting done for roids)

Kennedy & Jeff Hardy should be your champions Vince. Neither of them are going to win a title this upcoming Mania - why is that Vince? You don't wanna turn your storylines into a farce (just like TNA have) Listen to your Marks, give them what they want & they'll keep fattening up your wallets (I said wallets - not wallet). Otherwise, I can definitely see the marks heading in the direction of your competition. No not TNA, but Dana & his buddies over at UFC.

The writing's on the wall Vince, but you have to clean that fogged-up mirror to see it. Do you see how WCW kept you fresh & on your toes, but now that you've swallowed all your other competition up (TNA is not even close to being called competition) where are the creative ideas/good storylines going to originate from next?

Okay having finally caught up on my wrestling I have this to say about Raw tonight.

Jericho and Hardy had a fantastic match.

I was dissapointed to see D.H Smith job to Umanga. The Kid has greatness in his bloodlines.

I'm interested to see how far they will push Burchill.

I'm glad to see that they have chosen HBK to retire Flair. I was scared some git like MVP.

I actually picked HHH to retire Flair at Mania but HBK is just as good as choice.

I honestly thought they were going to give the title to Hardy at Mania, who knows mabe he still will. He wins the MITB match and uses it straight away after the main event to beat Cena, HHH or Orton. Who knows.

Jeff Hardy has been suspended for 60 days for substance abuse... surprise surprise.

That being said I enjoyed Raw alot even if it was painful to watch one of my favourite teams as a kid (The Great American Express) come out looking very old.

yeh thats a shame cause he was getting a big push atm. Not anymore, Y2j is the new IC champ....BREAK THE WALLS DOWN!!! Thats cool. Wasnt a bad Raw. Cant wait for next week with Triple H is charge. Looks like Mayweather really did hurt his elbow too. Thats no good.

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Originally Posted by Bartrim

Jeff Hardy has been suspended for 60 days for substance abuse... surprise surprise.

That being said I enjoyed Raw alot even if it was painful to watch one of my favourite teams as a kid (The Great American Express) come out looking very old.

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Man i go away for 2 weeks....

I don't know how many rasslin' sites you guys regularly check out but one I luv is http://www.worldwrestlinginsanity.com/index1.shtml

It puts a light-hearted spin on rubbish angles & at times, can be a great read. My fav columnist would have to be Zah http://www.worldwrestlinginsanity.co...AH/index.shtml His columns seem to speak my mind & are a excellent change from the editorial-approach other websites seem to take in reporting the same news.
As I previously mentioned, Mallory Mahling's coverage of Raw http://www.worldwrestlinginsanity.co..._1/index.shtml makes me decide whether I want to watch it here on Fox8 or not.

Compared to PWtorch (Too many ads) & WWE's site (good for vids but that's about it), World Wrestling Insanity seems to be in a class of it's own. :)

Damn, I can't wait til Monday. Mania is the only PPV I get every year & after finding out what happened on today's Raw, it's gotten me psyched for a big one. How about we have some predictions about

A/ What the results will probably be? &

B/ What the results should be?

Here's the card so far:
Triple Threat for WWE Belt - Orton v HHH v Cena
World Heavyweight Belt - Edge v Taker
Big Show v Mayweather
Flair v Michaels
MITB - Nitro v Punk v Carlito v Shelton v Kennedy v MVP v Jericho

Fillers
Batista v Umaga
24 Man Battle Royal
Finlay v Bradshaw
Woman's match

Okay,
We all know Cena, Taker & Mayweather will win. Not sure about Flair v Michaels & MITB (Jeff Hardy was a given before he got done).

But what if Kennedy won the MITB & cashed it in immediately after Cena won the 3-way, Kennedy takes the WWE Title & the place goes wild!

I reckon the best way to do Flair v Michaels would be to have Flair win & at the next PPV, Flair beats Kennedy for the WWE Title. Ric then retires on his own accord, having reached the pinnacle & going out on top. That would be sweet. :)

I know Cena will win even though I hope Triple H does.

I think HBK will retire Flair. They will have a brutal match and nearly kill each other (The WWE is only big enough for one leathery old man!:p) Then have a teary hug and send off for Flair.

Taker will win. So will Mayweather.

No one really tickles my fancy for the MITB match. I'd be guessing it's a heel that wins since Taker and Cena will be champions at the end of the night. Probably Kennedy.

The others well... aside from the Battle Royal (always love them) nothing really excites me.

It seems like every time they have a non-rassler in a Mania match, that non-rassler has to win - you know, like a feel good moment.

But wouldn't heaps of people be totally stoked if Big Show smacked Mayweather around the ring & put him in his place? The fans would eat that up.

Did you hear about how Jeff Hardy's house burned down with his dog not being able to make it out alive? As a way of picking up Jeff's spirits, there's word floating around that he might be a suprise entrant in the MITB. Talk about throwing that 60 day suspension out the window.

Oh, & the Hornswoggle storyline is supposedly over. Good riddance!

Santino Marella stealing The King's subway on RAW was a crack up that dude is pure comedy gold

my Mania predictions:
Cena (BOOOO)
Taker by DQ (DOUBLE BOOO)
Michaels to retire Flair
Floyd 'The Microphone Train Wreck' Mayweather over Big Show
Kennedy or CM Punk wins MITB (Benjamin steals show as usual)
Finlay over JBL
Batista over Umaga (BOOOO AGAIN)
Kane to the win battle royal then wins ECW Title from chavo
Bunny Mania (who gives a rats ass hopefully Snoop will be entertaining cuz the match is gonna blow)

It's still 2 weeks away isn't it????

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It's still 2 weeks away isn't it????

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I guess it is :)

I guess Mania takes place at either the end of March or the beginning of April.

Oh, & I read in the Sydney Daily Telegraph Business Section today that Vince opened up their Asia-Pacific Office here in Sydney. Page 26 has a half page on it with a pic of Dave Batista slamming Umaga and I tried looking for the same story on the Tele's website (as a link) but there was nothing there.

Mania is March 30th. Week from today. BRING IT ON!!!

My Mania predictions:
Cena but HHH PLEASE WIN THIS!!!
Taker, surely they wont ruin his 16-0 streak for Edge
Michaels to retire Flair
MM over Show via some sorta bull crap
Kennedy for MITB I hope!
Finlay over JBL
Batista over Umaga (They always make smackdown 'seem' like the best brand
who knows for battle royale
Maria will win bunny bull crap but should go to jillian cause she has bigger boobies...lol

I'm going to go out on a limb and say HHH to win the title, otherwise Orton will keep it. I don't believe they'll put it back on Cena. I'm sure they haven't forgotten the hatred HHH generated when he wouldn't drop the title for so long, by the time Cena was injured he was generating the same amount of hatred.

Undertaker and Edge is a tough call. While everyone respects Taker's record, with Edge being so hot right now and definitely on his way to becoming a Hall of Famer himself I wouldn't be surprised to see Edge get the victory. However I still lean towards Undertaker winning and getting the title run he was set for before his last injury.

Michaels -vs- Flair seems a bit too predictable. With Flair being inducted into the HOF the night before all things point to him retiring at WM, that's why I would actually back Flair winning. I do like Pulse's idea of Flair winning then going on to capture the title. It'd be fitting ... but this is Vince's WWE.

Mayweather and Big Show is another predictable one. Sure, the $20 million paycheck may be part of the story line, but there's no way he would have signed for WM without guaranteeing he wins. Shame though, considering how they're building Big Show up at the moment.

Money in the Bank ... do we really care who wins? It'll be the match of the night. I expect Matt Hardy may step in to take Jeff's place.

All the rest I have little interest in. The battle royal sounds good, but it's going to have Big Daddy V and I simply cannot watch him, same with Batista, Umaga and JBL. They've becoming very boring to watch.

As for the Playboy Bunny match, normally you'd roll your eyes and use this match as a chance to grab a drink or nibblies. BUT ... Maria has actually come a long way since she started so it may actually be a match worth watching. At the end of the match though it'll be the eye candy of the moment (Maria), which is pretty much how the WWE books their Divas.

You want good women's matches? Watch TNA.

Now all I got to do is some how work out how to get an hour after next Monday afternoon so I can catch the replay ....

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Originally Posted by Burn

Money in the Bank ... do we really care who wins? It'll be the match of the night. I expect Matt Hardy may step in to take Jeff's place.

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Now that would actually work. There are currently 7 guys scheduled for it so Matt Hardy would make 8.

Matt Hardy wins it, has a 1 & a half month feud with MVP, Jeff returns & wins the MITB briefcase from Matt. It would brother v brother. But then again both Hardys' are in the doghouse so... yeah.

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I do like Pulse's idea of Flair winning then going on to capture the title. It'd be fitting ... but this is Vince's WWE.

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I honestly hope that Kennedy wins MITB & takes Cena's title from him immediately after the Triple Threat. http://www.wwe.com/content/media/vid...one=raw_videos Flair should also win & takes on Kennedy for the belt at the next PPV. Flair should win the title & immediately retire - going out on top.

I reckon we would do a helluva lot better job of booking feuds/storylines than the cronies Vince has writing them at the moment.

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Originally Posted by Pulse

I reckon we would do a helluva lot better job of booking feuds/storylines than the cronies Vince has writing them at the moment.

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Triple H is one of the bookers and I think it's good on him that he makes himself lose. Not like when Kevin Sullivan became a booker at WCW and all of a sudden he was indestructable.

HHH went through his "unbeatable" period a few years back when he wouldn't drop the title to anyone.

Think he learnt from that and how it was really hurting the business. Same Vince didn't learn and kept the title on Cena for so long.

But if you want to see bad booking, try TNA. The feuds are all over the place with that group, titles defended on an irregular basis. The only good thing about TNA is the women's division as these girls can actually put on good matches.

Plus Amazing Kong scares the begeebus out of me. :eek:

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HHH went through his "unbeatable" period a few years back when he wouldn't drop the title to anyone.

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Yeah but atleast Triple H was in good shape so it was kinda believable not like Kevin Sullivan a fat, balding 40 something slob beating guys at the peak of their careers.

Back on Raw. I'm pretty sure Flair will be retired at Wrestlemania. Making the champion submit in the main event on his final Raw is a good way to go out.

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Back on Raw. I'm pretty sure Flair will be retired at Wrestlemania. Making the champion submit in the main event on his final Raw is a good way to go out.

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IF he loses at WM I just hope he can appear on Raw to give a farewell speech and that no one interrupts him and if they do, break character (i'm talking Vince and Orton in particular) and just pay him the respect he deserves.

God i can't wait for this........

As a devoted Undertaker fan for the last 20 odd years..........

If work some how screws me i am going to loose it.

Less than 2 days to go!!!

I'm throwing a sickie on Monday - Guaran-damn-teed!

This is the only Rasslin' PPV I get every year so I sure as hell hope it's a good one.

I'm going to see the one on at 6pm

I'm not getting to see WM until thursday:(

I'm going to try real hard to go to a friends house and watch the 6pm replay one. If not I'll just have to D/L it.

Actually guys, replays are at 4:30pm and 9:30pm EDT.

I'm not gonna give any spoilers away/discuss it until every one of you guys have seen it (so as not to take anything away from your viewing experience).

Besides the Benoit thing, Rasslin also made the news today - for a positive reason. :D Unbelievable isn't it. I was watching Channel 10's news at 5pm & during the Sports section, they actually had video of Mayweather v Big Show. Wrestling on normal TV for a positive reason - I thought I'd never see the day...