animated ratchet, it sucked BALLS! i cant believe i chose to buy that instead of watching star wars the clone wars, silly kuzzy, silly kuzzy indead
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animated ratchet, it sucked BALLS! i cant believe i chose to buy that instead of watching star wars the clone wars, silly kuzzy, silly kuzzy indead
I agree that Fuzors would have been better if they were mythological beasts. While Silverbolt has little bit of griffin in him, he's a wolf not a lion, Flamefeather is a better Griffin. :D A modern mythical beast line would rock, all we ge these days are Dragons, A transformer basilisk, cockatrice, or manticore would rock.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime
I do kinda like Torca though, (but he is out of scale).
I agree somewhat, at least ravage has front paws, much better than Rumble or mr no hands. The guy doesn't even have any elbows, he needs a helper monkeybot just to feed him energon.Quote:
Originally Posted by heroic_decepticon
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Originally Posted by MV75
I see it more of a Macross toy, but that's just me. :D
I didn't say I don't want it, just that I hate it. I have a pretty crappy condition one, simply so I can say I have it.Quote:
Originally Posted by MV75
There are toys I dislike more (the Bumper Battlers are awful, as are the G2 Firecons), but I went with Jetfire because I personally dislike him and it's nice and controversial :)
I did say "mythological like" :)Quote:
Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime
You didn't miss anything good, trust meQuote:
Originally Posted by kuzzy
I can't believe i shelled out $13 to see that crap
g1 wheelie
The biggest dissappointment I had was Unicron, I saw pictures of the Japanese version and thought that is magnificent then what do they do, release the U.S one which doesn't even hold a candle to it BOOOOoooooo:p:D
and yes I consider it craptacular for that reason;)
ultimate bumblebee... he should have been called "lump of non posable car parts with retarded song snipets built in"
Don't have anything non G1, so my vote has to go to Broadside. Got this guy recently - extremely underwhelming compared to the behemoth that took on two decepticon combiner teams in the original animated series. Plus mines missing the damn blue canopy. I've noticed this is the case with heaps of loose broadsides out there on the market.
I was going to put my vote in with the damned for wheelie, but his car mode aint so bad :D
Wheelie is bad mostly due to reputation than bad toy - However his robot mode isn't exactly great either.
Wheelie is an underwhelming toy, even compared to other Autobot minicars.
HD: Alternator Ravage's feline mode is technically his robot mode. But I know what you mean by him having the only non-humanoid robot mode. :) But in spite of this I still consider him to be the most disappointing of the Alternators.
Technically you're right Zed. That mould was originally released for Macross and _never_ by Harmony Gold for Robotech. One thing that has vexed Robotech fans is that they never released any transforming Veritech toys during the 1980s so some kids bought Jetfire to compensate (I know one guy who repainted his Jetfire into the colours of Skull-1; you know this person too Zed ;)).Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord_Zed
i just accquired broadside myself, while the robot is crap, the concept is very good one i believe and be further developed from the original robot to make it more poseable, as with octane, i would like to see hasbro further developing this guy.:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by heroic_decepticon
oh by the way....... worst robot ever, TFA 2 Pack Megatron - Junk that transforms back into Junk
I actually like G1 Jetfire myself too! Mine is in pretty good condition, and I've also got a few Macross versions... the VF-1S and the VF-1J being my favourites!
I love the Chunky Monkies! :D
REALLY!!!? That redeems this ridiculous toy 100% to me! *merrily Plays with Classics two-pack Optimus Prime*Quote:
Originally Posted by snaketales
What..Toys we hated? Hmmm.....Beast Machines. I loved Beast Wars. So much. Then they went and stuffed it all up. I had purchased the Beast Machines toys before I ever saw the cartoon and enjoyed them, but after I wathced the cartoon, saw what they did I got rid of them. I could nop longer bear to look at Characters i loved being ruined like that. I hated that show so much I sold Transformers toys, something abominable to me!
Wait...that's more hating a show than toys isn't it? Damn.
hes not that bad once you get to know him. As demonstrated here, he can do all sorts of poses and has a pretty cool tommy gun!!Quote:
Originally Posted by snaketalesIf you pull the black tab on his back it should lock his torso into place so he stops spinning.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1AZRAEL1
From tfwiki: Pressing the button "unlocks" the spinning mechanism; pull hard on the button, and you can lock the torso back into place.
I was fiddling with my Legends figures yesterday and realised something... I actively dislike the Cybertron Soundwave figure, even the Legends version and the Blaster redeco.
I can never get the jet nose into what I deem to be acceptable shape. And It doesn't even look like Soundwave/Blaster, apart from the coloured chest piece.
The only redeeming feature for me is the little transformable dude.
yep that Universe Blaster is one of my least favourite figures. I have a MISB one, but I flogged off a loose one on Ebay. Kind of looks like a psychadelic chicken and I'm not fan of robots with chicken legs.Quote:
Originally Posted by snaketales
Favourite Universe figure would probably be Onslaught.
I'm surprised your favourite Classics/Universe toy isn't Jetfire. He's pretty awesome. :) I don't like any of the Universe toys that are just repaints of pre-existing moulds like Blaster. The only ones I have are Dirge and Roadbuster which I got out of "necessity" rather than "choice" (i.e.: I couldn't get BotCon or Gentei Dirge so I settled for Universe Dirge, and of course he comes w/ Roadbuster).
Suicide Attack Laserbeak. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by snaketales
My favourite Classics toy is definitely Jetfire. I like how he has the option of wearing the Macross helmet or without for a more accurate G1 inspired look.
He is the toy we should have received 25 years ago.
Technically you are wrong because they did release transforming veritech toys for Robotech - the Veritech Hovertank and Veritech Alpha Fighter, though these were from the Southern Cross and Mospeada parts of Robotech respectively rather than Macross part. Sucks to be anal doesn't it?Quote:
Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime
Pretty good nomination there, pretty woeful transformer, and the price they asked for it was ridiculous too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Prime_217
Same could be said for most of the Movie toys though.
Not really. It was my own fault for not specifying the Macross Saga; I'd forgotten that the Hovertanks and fighters in the Southern Cross and New Generation (not MOSPEADA; that was the original animé's name but it was called "New Generation" whenQuote:
Originally Posted by Fungal Infection
bastardisedadapted for Robotech) sagas were also called "Veritechs." It's 'cos I'm not a fan of Robotech, although I do like Macross (which I'm actually watching right now as I'm typing this) and I've seen Genesis Climber MOSPEADA and some of Super Dimensional Cavalry Southern Cross. But considering that the discussion was in the context of Robotech I should have been more careful in using the term "Veritech." :)
If you didn't want Roadbuster, I can take him off your hands? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime
Oh and thanks heaps Snaketales for the info with the black tab, it makes the figure slightly more bearable :p Now I need to figure out a new hated figure haha
I have a loose TreadBolt and a MISB Classics Jetfire.. I do like this mold. But Onslaught is cool, I like his colours and S.W.A.T shield.
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Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime
are you speaking of the price??? or the woeful-ness of the transformers? cos if you are speaking of the price i agree. of the woefulness i dissagreeQuote:
Originally Posted by i_amtrunks
+1Quote:
Originally Posted by Prime_217
That's the problem with these worst of threads, everyones worst toy is usualy someones favourte. Or vice versa.
Take the afforementioned Classics Jetfire. Loved by all, except me! While I wouldn't call it one of my worst TF's It's definately not a favourte of mine. Sure it's a tribute but the blend of F14/ Valkyrie and square nosed cartoon Jetfire just looks half arsed to me. Unaerodynamic and bulky I only like to display that toy in bot mode.
Worst toy in general- Stretch Armstrong (just popped into my head...):confused:
Worst Transformer in my opinion- uuuummmm -
cant think now , will reveal later...:rolleyes:
worst Transformer toy of all time...
I'd probably say Supreme Cheetor, can't speak from personal experience as I didn't follow Beast Machines (didn't get into it, and probably would have left TFs were it not for RiD) but that toy failed on so many levels.
Probably characterised by the fact that I once went into one of the Toys R Us near where I live looking for Energon figures, and there were still one or two Supreme Cheetors sitting on the bottom shelf.
I just browsed through everyone's nominations and G1 Broadside seems to have copped the most nominations more than any other!Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord_Zed
Here's what I think of what people have nominated so far...
+ RPMs: If we're to include non-action figures, then yes, I would agree with this.
+ G1 Jetfire: disagree.
+ Cassie/Wolf: This was my nomination, so I absolutely think this is the worst TF ever!
+ G1 dirge: disagree.
+ entire Armada: disagree. There were some pretty crappy toys in Armada (I'm looking at you, Scavenger), but there were some pretty good ones too (e.g.: Air Defence Team Mini-Cons, Unicron etc.).
+ Combiner Class Devastator: Considering the original RRP for this toy... then yes, I would agree with this one. It's by far the worst ROTF toy.
+ Titanium Series "G.I. Joe" Megatron: It's the worst of the Titanium Series Transformers, and the Ti Series TFs are pretty scheissenhausen.
+ Refute: Worst of the Mini-Cons, but not the worst TF ever.
+ Universe Galvatron: Disagree. I don't think he's a great toy, but I don't think he's awful either.
+ CYB Runamuck: Okay, if you're gonna hate this base mould then you really should be nominating Armada Sideswipe. If you're buying Runamuck then you have to accept the flaws that come with the Sideswipe mould. So I can't really see what's wrong with this toy other than the fact that it's a retool/repaint of a crap mould in the first place. i.e.: what makes this toy any better or worse than Sideswipe? If anything, I think it looks better than Sideswipe. Can't stand the name though, but apparently Hasbro couldn't secure the rights for Runabout. Bleh.
+ G1 Broadside: Awww, poor Broadside. I can see how he would be the worst of the G1 Triple Changers... but he's not the worst G1 toy ever; he has better articulation than a Battlecharger or Throttlebot, isn't made from gold plastic and while his alt modes may be grossly out of scale with each other, at least they're clearly identifiable as what they're intended to be unlike some of the 1988 Pretenders. So I disagree with this one.
+ Ultimate Battle Optimus Prime (Special Edition): Again, what makes this toy worse than the original UB Optimus Prime? If anything the colours are an improvement and comes in a nicer box.
+ Ultimate Battle Megatron (Special Edition): see above.
+ Universe Silverbolt: I like the toy, but I hate the Universe colours (hence why I got the USA Edition one :))
+ Injector: He is indeed the worst Fuzor ever. Worst Beast Wars Transformer ever? I dunno... at least he has a robot mode (even if it is fugly) unlike the Mutant Beasts. That was a really WEIRD move from Hasbro.
+ Alternators (especially Jazz): While I think that Alternators suck compared to Binaltechs, I don't think they're the worst Transformers ever. And the Jazz mould is one I quite like. My least favourite is the Ravage XK mould.
+ Alternators Optimus/Nemesis Prime. Disagree. I don't think it's great, but I hate Ravage more. :)
+ Alternators Ravage (XK): My own nomination so obviously I'm in agreement with it. :p
+ Animated Ratchet: Disagree. Not a great toy, but not the worst TF ever.
+ G1 Wheelie: Haha, I agree that this is a dreadfully AWFUL toy. As I said before it's the worst of the G1 mini-bots.
+ Unicron: Wha?! No way!!
+ Ultimate Bumblebee: I've never seen this toy outside of its box IRL and I have interest too either. So I'm gonna agree.
+ Cybertron Soundwave/Universe Blaster: Hmmm... disagree.
+ Supreme Cheetor: Definitely the worst Beast Machines Transformer. Nightscream sucks hard too. As does Megatron. And Silverbolt... at least Cheetor looks like a cheetah... Silverbolt does NOT look like a condor. Although Silverbolt didn't cost you $100 either! And Silverbolt must've sold cos I had trouble finding him! Cheetor was a Supreme Shelfwarmer.
Whenever there is a japanese version and there is a US version, I hate the US version. They are always worse quality, less accurate paint!
Oh the US classic rodimus's chest does not have autobot symbol!!! why why why is so hard to paint a symbol on the chest??
In general I agree with you, but tbh there are some instances where the Hasbro version is comparable or arguably better than the Japanese version, or in some cases excusable.Quote:
Originally Posted by 浪子欣欣
e.g.:
+ Some Beast Wars colour differences; e.g.: Blackarachnia, Tigatron, Transmetals etc.; Hasbro's versions were released _before_ the cartoon whereas the Japanese versions were done after, hence Takara had the luxury of painting some of their BW toys in more show-like colours. But it's not Hasbro's fault that their Tigatron isn't snow white like Takara's... they can't be expected to see the future. What is less forgivable is the stupid cheap brown plastic Hasbro used on Transmetal Megatron. Grrr. :(
+ Masterpiece Starscream: Hasbro's version featured more G1-accurate colours and was also made of better and more durable plastic compared to Takara's MP-3.
+ Universe/Henkei Cyclonus: I personally prefer the darker purple on Hasbro's as opposed to the light purple on Takara's. I will admit that the mismatched greys on Hasbro's do suck though. :( The chrome on the Henkei does nothing for me. But really both versions have their own merits; Takara's is good for people wanting Cyclonus in G1 cartoon colours whereas Hasbro's is more closer to the original G1 toy and comics (well, except for those odd moments when Cyclonus was coloured blue... weird)
Yeah but none of the Classics had tampoed insignias, they had rub signs instead. And before we criticise Hasbro for opting to have rub signs over stickers or tampographed logos, remember that Takara gave their Car Robot Spychangers heat-activated insignias whereas Hasbro's RiD Spychangers had tampographed logos instead. It's a matter of personal preference which is "better."Quote:
Originally Posted by 浪子欣欣
e.g.: RiD Hot Shot vs. CR Artfire; you can see that Hot Shot has a tampoed logo whereas Artfire's is heat activated.
On the whole I strongly agree with you, but there are exceptions and I don't think it's entirely accurate to say that the Japanese version is "always" better. I'd say they're _usually_ better, but not always. :)
I think that the problem with Hasbro's paint jobs its not just cheap paints but also a more marketing driven mentality. While the Japanese try to stick to character colors (generally not always), Hasbro tries to implement brighter more 'eye catchy' colors that would stand out on a peg or shelf so that the product is more appealing to the stores rather than the end consumer - Of course this isn't always the case as in some rare occations Hasbro will pull a totally bland and 'WTF?' color scheme such as Universe Powerglide or Silverbolt.Quote:
Originally Posted by 浪子欣欣
A recent example that I can think of is the horrible colors of Universe Dinobot.
Are you saying that that whole Alternators line suck compared to the Binaltechs? Not sure I'm following you there because for the most part, each Alternator figure has a Binaltech counterpart.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime
Or are you saying that you prefer the BT version to the ALT version if and when it is a release of the same character? If so, I'm still a little confused because I can't see how, for example, ALT Meister can suck (pretty strong language) compared with BT Meister. They are essentially the same toy with slightly different material compositions; very much akin to rub-signs and tampographed versions of toys you've mentioned.
Also, ALTs as a line have its merits by giving us the likes of Mirage, Rumble and (ahem) Ravage amongst other figures that BTs never released. ALTs also have the advantage of not being subject to paint wear. As an example, I cite the bonnet corners of BT Lambor, man, hard to transform without scruffing off the paint there.
I prefer BTs over ALTs when there is a release of the same character. To me they feel like a cheaper version of Binaltechs and are overpriced. Alternators retailed for about $45-55 (I know they got real cheap toward the end when stores like TRU slashed prices to clear stock, but the standard retail price was about $45-55) whereas Binaltechs retailed for about 4980JPY ($58) each. Yeah okay, you gotta pay for postage on top of that; but of course group orders helped make that cheap (:)).
I don't think that Alternators are absolutely devoid of merit, but given the choice I'd much prefer paying a bit extra for Binaltechs considering that they had:
+ die-cast metal
+ better paint apps (I really don't like that cheap blue on Alt Smokescreen and the dodgy white on Meister)
+ extra goodies (e.g.: tech specs card, nice booklet with instructions, photos and story)
+ Nicer packaging (IMO)
+ I can get the toy/character sooner (i.e. importing the toy when it comes out in Japan vs. waiting for Hasbro Australia to release the toy here).
Mirage is cool. Ravage I don't like... and Rumble I don't have but I haven't heard good things about it. Is it true that the robot mode doesn't have hands? i.e.: only piledriver pistons -- cos Galaxy Force Rumble (aka Cybertron Scrapmetal) has hands that can become piledrivers, and it's just a cheap little Scout Class toy. I'd be mighty disappointed if an Alternator couldn't at least match that. They also gave us Decepticharge which was quite ordinary to say the least (the core mould isn't bad, but the execution was poor IMO; don't even start me about the name).Quote:
Originally Posted by heroic_decepticon
I don't think Rumble came out here and I don't like Alternators enough to import any... I only got Ravage because I found him cheap while I was overseas. :p Anyway, I don't like Alternators compared to their Binaltech counterparts, hence they comparatively "suck" IMHO. And it is just my opinion. :)
Okay...I don't mean to jump on the Plastic Addict bandwagon but
Retrax:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4TJRqWklXY
&
Armada Sideswipe:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gymMG...eature=channel
look really awful...like a three day old piece of roadkill...
:eek:
Resurrecting the thread for a bit of fun.
Tough to beat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vector Prime
Robot Replicas is an honourable mention. I have one or two in my collection. :o
I dunno - I have 4 versions of Frenzy from the 2007 movie and I reckon my RR version is by far the best of the lotQuote:
Originally Posted by Megatran
Robot Relpicas were awful, I disagree on the RPMs though, I have (1) Soundwave and I think it's great :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Megatran
Simple, tough and fun!
My thoughts on Worst Transformer Ever would have to be Energon Swoop and grimlock. I still haven't come across anything that beats them yet. Although I have been avoiding buying Transformers I think are going to be bad (which included MOST of the 3rd movie toys).
RPMs were poor value for money considering that you could get a die-cast metal Matchbox or Hot Wheels car for less than their full RRP. Unless you think it's worth paying extra for having Cybertronian roadkill stuck on the underside of the vehicles. :p
I think alternators win mp cars. Mp cars are totally plastic and regardless what people are saying, die cast still outshines.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime
After looking at tracks mp25 I don't find it anywhere better as a toy.
The worst mp toy goes to mp-9 for me due to how weak the leg joints were rodimus couldn't hold the riffle, I mean did they actually test this or go with the "this will do" attitude?