Just don't ever try connected a G1 Predator Jet with MW Starscream's scope. It works just fine on Skyquake, but for some reason MW Starscream's is just way too tight. I haven't been game to try it on King Atlas. :o
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Just don't ever try connected a G1 Predator Jet with MW Starscream's scope. It works just fine on Skyquake, but for some reason MW Starscream's is just way too tight. I haven't been game to try it on King Atlas. :o
Dark of the Moon Guzzle could pass off as a CHUG G1 Guzzle. The resemblance is uncanny.
"Decepticon" basically translates as "You are being deceived" - Megatron's call to arms. :eek:
"Decepticon" itself is obviously an invented word that comes from 'deception.' But 'deception' comes from the Old French word decepcion, which looks and sounds more like "Decepticon." And "decepcion" comes from the Latin word dēcipiō ("to mislead").
For those who may not know, Latin words transform in order to denote variations in meaning. We call these different modes "declensions." Dēcipiō is the Third Conjugation of the word "dēceptus" (deceived, cheated). But of course, Megatron isn't saying that people have been deceived, he's saying that they are being deceived, and for this we need to look at the second-person plural present passive imperative form of dēcipiō, which is DECIPIMINI. Translation: "You are being deceived." :eek:
Now I'm under no illusion that Bob Budiansky had any of this in mind when he made the word "Decepticon" back in 1984. They're deceptive Evil Decepticons(TM), boo! And obviously "Autobot" was simply a portmanteau of "automobile" and "robot" (since all the first year Autobots were automobiles), but of course in the IDW universe it initially was a shortening of "automaton robots," then "autonomous robots." But I think it is cool that current continuity has given these names far greater depth in their meaning than initially intended. :)
I disagree with your interpretation. (Who is doing the deceiving and who is being deceived?) There are other possible interpretations for the word "Decepticon" that haven't even been considered yet (also for "Autobot"). It's not important what those other possibilities are at this time so I won't mention them here, as my only intention is to point out that your translation is not final or absolute, though you make it sound like you have authority on the issue, when you do not.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime
I'm only talking about the definitions of "Autobot" and "Decepticon" as explicitly stated in the IDW comics. I realise that other continuities do not share this definition, which I also explicitly disclaimed.
References:
Chaos Theory, Part 2
Shadowplay, Part 1: Post Hoc
IDW's G1 continuity has no relation to any other continuity. It is not a retcon.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime
Setting aside the more recent retcons, Bob Budiansky is an authority, for creating the original names and story, and I recall somewhere (probably BotCon) him saying that Autobot was derived from automobile, and Decepticon was derived from deception. Which was why they were also labelled as "heroic" and "evil", and characters like Megatron were given negative or evil sounding names (remember the story about Hasbro wanting Bob to rename Megatron because they thought it sounded too evil for a kids toyline and cartoon).Quote:
Originally Posted by Megatron
And as we also know, Bob loved to use Latin and Greek with his Transformers names and places. I remember writing an essay back in the 90s about all the names of Greek and Latin origin in an attempt to solve the debate (at that time) of the spelling of Elita-1.
I am unfamiliar with this debate. Were you right?Quote:
Originally Posted by griffin
Elita is obviously taken from the word "elite" which is actually French (élite) but descendant from the Latin word 'eligere,' which - to make a long story short - is a variation of the word 'electum' (to choose or elect).
But yeah, Budiansky certainly did have a penchant for Greek-Latin names...
Cybertron, Auto(bot), Decepticon, Optimus Prime, Megatron, (Wind)charger, Trail(breaker), Barr(age), Shrapnel, Mir(age), Inferno, Perceptor, Metroplex et al. And it's a trend which IDW have followed as well with names like Caminus, Aequitas, conjunx amicus/amica, conjunx endura, empurata, Pyra Magna, Victori(on), Pharma et al.
Dem fighting words. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Megatron
Come to think of it, I've never thought of the name Megatron as a negative or evil sounding name. To me, it ilicits a figure of strong & immense stature such as a leader.Quote:
Originally Posted by griffin
Negatron, on the other hand, does sound very negative. And fortunately Negatron only appears very briefly ... in an episode of Family Guy.
Back when the internet was new for Transformers fans (mid 90s) and there was little or no access/interaction with official sources (or resources like the Original Series Bible), the online fandom would debate topics, like the colour of Rumble and Frenzy, where does Optimus' trailer go when he transforms, and what is the spelling of Elita-1.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raider
Because in the Original series cartoon, her name was pronounced two different ways, depending on the voice actor and what vowels are emphasised. Either it was Elita/Eleeta (pronounced as "elite" at the start of the name, but was said by Starscream with heavy sarcasm, leading many to believe that it wasn't her actual name), or Aleta/Alita (pronounced with "ah" on the front, which was the majority of the times it was spoken in the cartoon).
At the time, (and before the Bible had the name in print to end the debate), neither spelling seemed to be derived from anything that I thought made sense (based on her character traits and powers), so I looked for an alternative spelling... which I can't actually remember, but it meant something like a burst of power - something that her character did in one episode to stop time.
(this was all about 20 years ago now, so I'm guessing a lot of it now)
Suffice to say, my third spelling didn't get picked up by anyone, and within a few years we had the official spelling revealed/confirmed, ending all future debates on the matter.
I used to switch between Alita-1 and Elita-1 until 1996 when that Japanese garage kit came out and since then I've used Elita One.
Tokyo Disneyland's Western River Railroad ride is presented by TakaraTOMY. :eek:
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Thanks FunPub!!!
Once again I've gotten a "new" g1 figure and realised I had overlooked something fro day 1!!!
This time it's Grand Max's she'll related.... I never realised Grand could keep Gran in place when in the shell! Only realised when I grabbed Brave's head to have a look with TFSS Megs shell.
But in my Defense... I try not to play with Grand too much :p
MP36's plastic laser prop has a 5mm wide post (which plugs into the sword handle). Thus...
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Unfortunately it doesn't fit on CW Megatron because the raised thumb base gets in the way. Because the "handle" is quite short it only works on figures whose fists are fairly flat. I don't have TR Megatron, so would anyone care to try it?
TR Roadburn is a blend of Chase, Freeway and Searchlight. He has:
* Chase's colours (and coincidentally the larger grill/bumper makes the vehicle look more Chase-like)
* Freeway's face and helmet horns
* Searchlight's helmet crest and brow
So Roadburn mould could be potentially repainted as Freeway and Searchlight without any further retooling.
Actually, on closer inspection the head's "just" being show-accurate, and the Marvel/Sunbow head just coincidentally happens to have similar features to Freeway and Searchlight's toys. :oQuote:
Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime
AOE Junkheap is three robots with a shared alt mode, Reflector-style.
Apparently he does split into his three components in the movie. I didn't notice.
I never realised that as well, and I never noticed that on the TFWiki... I mustn't have ever gone to that page either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulbot
Now I'm gonna have go and look at the TF4 movie, to look for that scene...
I noticed it, but I don't blame you guys for not noticing it considering that weird "flying blocks" transformation that they used in the film. Guh. They should release a special edition of AoE where:
1/ All the Decepticons actually transform, not disintegrate and reintegrate as floating sugar cubes.
2/ Just delete 'that' scene. It's so freaking useless and won't be missed.
The last I heard, it was meant to evoke "megaton", as in atomic weaponry, which had negative connotations due to the Cold War being less than a generation old when the name was created.Quote:
Originally Posted by Megatran
Just looking at pictures of Legends Godbomber. My gosh, it has thumb and finger articulation!
Ten years of movie toys with hundreds of Bumblebees, and I only realise today that none are Voyagers.
Can we count the Human Alliance version as one? :p
TF2010 Deluxe Bumblebee was redecoed and released in Japan at the Voyager price point as AD08 Battle Blade Bumblebee. So technically speaking there has been a Voyager Movie Bumblebee as there was a toy released at the Voyager price point. And the AoE Flip-and-Change Bumblebee was Voyager-sized, but I'm assuming not Voyager priced (I don't pay attention to these figures). But as far as a Movie Bumblebee toy that ticks all of the following boxes:
□ Voyager size
□ Voyager price
□ Voyager-level design and engineering
No, I do not believe that there has been a movie Bumblebee that fulfills all of those criteria.
I was looking for a recent Voyager Bumblebee to photograph next to the Cyber series Bumblebees (for size/price comparisons), and just couldn't find one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sinnertwin
I saw the HA one, and thought about using it, but then thought that it would be hard to equate price-points, and it looks bigger than a Voyager anyway.
I was just amazed at the realisation that we've had 10 years of Movie toys, and the main feature character hasn't been released by Hasbro in Voyager class packaging/pricepoint by Hasbro in all that time.
They don't mind inundating us with endless Deluxe and gimmick Bumblebee toys, as well as one-off over-sized (and over-priced) large size toys, but one of the main price-points has not been utilised (yet).
There is a suggestion that there might be a Voyager Bumblebee for TF5, and if that happens, it would be the first... but still, you'd think that with so many Bumblebee Movie toys, there would be one of every size class by now.
I should do a count of the Movie Optimus and Bumblebee toys, to see who has the most over the last ten years.
I randomly watched Unicron death in the movie on youtube recently, and only on that viewing did I notice (for the first time ever) all of the autobots flying in space past Unicron's left shoulder after they exit his eye.
Gobsmacked I was :p
Heh... I'd never noticed that either. But there they are, floating away.Quote:
Originally Posted by Borgeman
I was always taken back by the sexy little reverse and peel Jazz does, even though there was nothing in front of him.
Jazz just looked like he chucked it in reverse instead of first, too much of a rush to gtfoQuote:
Originally Posted by Sinnertwin
Was just browsing BBTS contemplating G2 Superion for the 20th time, as you do, and just noticed for the first time that the gun mode was Powerglide attached to the gun. I always assumed that Powerglide and the gun were multiple weapons on one super weapon. Needless to say my display with regular vanila Superion is now fixed. :D
I never watched the movie "Ted 2" (the first one was too crude to want to see the second one), but I found out today from comments about Mark Wahlberg being a guest at this year's Hascon, that him and Ted were trashing the actual Hasbro exhibit at NYCC in 2014 for that sequel film.
I looked up some clips on youtube, but won't post up any links, as there is some coarse language in most of them... but if you want to have a look, do a search for something like "Ted 2 comic con". You can actually see the Transformers toy displays, with the TF4 movie toys and the giant Bumblebee statue.
Reading up on the plot synopsis, there is a big subplot involving Hasbro in the film, relating to the "toy" of Ted... fascinating. I think I'll have to see this movie now.
We've discussed this in the Sightings in Media thread. There's quite a lot of Hasbro product placement - with plenty of Tfs - even though Hasbro is kind of the villain!Quote:
Originally Posted by griffin
(It's not a bad movie either although the first is better!)
I only recently Googled "WTB." Didn't know what it meant before. :p
Only just now realised that the TR Topsin collector card has the misspelling of "Autbot Topspin" lol
Recently discovered that TLK Voyager Megatron and Nitro have 3mm ports that allow a 3mm flight stand (e.g. MP Tracks' stand) to support them. Just discovered one on TR Metalhawk (which means that TR Triggerhappy probably has one too) and TR Pounce! :eek: Someone told me that this has been fairly common on toys for the last couple of years!
Dude, you hurt my feelings. I mentioned that in my comments on the TLK Megs Review thread, and now I know you didnt read it... *sniff* :(Quote:
Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime
I just realised that it's meant to be a dot point list. I thought it was a really badly put together paragraph, so uh... I skipped past it. :o I suggest that you actually use bullet points or even the board's [ list ][ /list ] tags (without the spaces) to make it clearer to read (example below). :)
Anyway, something else that I noticed before but then totally forgot about it but just noticed again -- the Last Knight Premier Edition figures have what appear to be Functions (or maybe just whacky character descriptions, but I'm treating them Functions :p). They're on the side flap of the boxes.
e.g.
- Optimus Prime (Voyager) = Earth's Greatest Protector
- Berserker = Raging Destroyer
- Barricade = Sinister Trickster
- Nitro Zeus = Lethal Hunter
- Hot Rod = Brash Warrior
- Megatron (Voyager) = Merciless Tyrant
- Sqweeks = Autobot Amigo
They are pretty lame Functions, but not as lame as Robots In Disguise! Cos RiD Bruticus' Function is Predacon Dog. :p
I've been pronouncing Paul Eiding's surname incorrectly for over 30 years.
I've been mispronouncing it as "Eeding," but it's "Eye-ding." Or "Ei" as in Einstein (not "Eensteen"). :o
Apparently all Titans Return Kup (and JP Chaar) toys have a part wrongly assembled on them, and no one noticed... because it doesn't affect the transformation or look too out of place.
The part on the inside of each lower leg, is apparently on the wrong legs, as the two "panels" on that part are not the same size, so the line between them doesn't line up with the one on the adjoining part.
I checked last night and it's on the Orion Pax as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by griffin
Bumblebee's always had horns. In this Bumblebee head, bust his head looks comparatively bigger compared with Prime's - eyes are a few mm/cm higher, and his head/helmet is wider. This is obviously not to scale, however the comparison next to Prime makes his head more imposing.
The imposing head, in yellow, with horns, gives off a strong Unicron vibe to me. Maybe Bumblebee is actually a sleeper Acolyte of Unicron*?! :eek:
* Note: Wayyy behind in the IDW comics, so if it's has already happened, then that's just awesome!