Ok so generally if i was to recommend the TR line as toys and say that you can get a bunch of different sizes and all the little head dudes interact with each other well that would be fine?
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Ok so generally if i was to recommend the TR line as toys and say that you can get a bunch of different sizes and all the little head dudes interact with each other well that would be fine?
Yeah, on the whole the TR line is freakin' awesome. Galvatron is one of the poorer figures. It would've been a whole lot better if it had never been made into a Titan Master. Some people whinge about CW/TR, but honestly, imagine if these toys had been released 10 years ago when Classics started. Compare TR Astrotrain with Classics Astrotrain, or even CW Ultra Magnus with Classics Ultra Magnus with whatever the name of that third party armour was (especially when you factor in the cost!). CW Powerglide completely craps all over Universe Powerglide and is 3.5 times cheaper! And IMHO TR Wolfwire is a much better toy than Timelines Weirdwolf. No offence to the Cybertron Snarl mould - I own CYB Snarl and I think it's a nice enough toy... but it's not Weirdwolf.
Some people have criticised the TR figures for perhaps being a tad plain in design, but have a look at the original G1 figures that they're based off. A lot of the 1987 Headmasters were pretty plain/straightforward designs. G1 Chromedome literally bends in half backwards to become a car. :rolleyes: This is why I always compare new toys with their original counterparts, to demonstrate just how much of an improvement these toys are over the originals, even in context of vintage and price.
Adjusting for modern day prices, the G1 Headmasters would be roughly $60. The TR Headmasters are half this price. So what we are seeing are new and improved versions of the original Headmasters at the equivalent/adjusted price of a small 1988 Targetmaster (like say Scoop, Landfill, Spinister etc.). That's phenomenal value for money.
The toy on the left cost the equivalent of roughly $60 today and transforms in four steps and has 2 points of articulation. The toy on the right costs $25 and transforms in 12 steps and has 16 points of articulation.
And look, there are always going to be exceptions. CHUGUR is a mixed bag just as G1 was - both lines have great and awful toys. As Demonac pointed out, Fortress Maximus is a rare case where the G1 toy is superior to the modern day one. I like TR Fortress Maximus, but I got mine from PC for $159.95, which is 2.5 times cheaper than the price of G1 Fortress Maximus' modern day price of approx. $400*.
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*32800JPY = Encore Fort Max's RRP
ok thanks :)
As someone that was born in 1984 I missed out on many of the original toys in their first run. Even as a 6 or 7 year old getting the first Classics line I couldn't help but be disappointed at many of them. Ironhide had no head. My Powermaster Optimus Prime was a better toy than 1984's Prime. I even said I didn't want Starscream because he didn't look right.
I even gave up collecting Encore and other G1 reissues because for every Fort Max, Predaking or Sixshot where I thought it was a really cool toy I got bummed out by 3 or 4 toys cause they were either not very show accurate or had the playability of a brick.
Fast forward to today and I have the vast majority of the G1 cast with toys that either look like their G1 cartoon self (ie:United Jazz) or are a cool update on their G1 self (ie: LG Magnus). Sure we get a few bad toys every now and then like Tall Tankor or that Legends Class guy that is meant to go on CW Menasor's chest, but I feel far less let down by them than G1 toys.
You mean Black Jack that is CW Menasor chest? I have the G2 version of CW Menasor and don't bother using him as the chest. But the figure itself homages the G1 micromaster, I think it's great
I had zero interest in TR. Head masters were the show that killed the show that ruined the show that I loved. I was only going to target select legends.
Then my 2yo got his hands on Wheelie. He went straight to the cockpit looking for someone to put in it. That was when I accepted my destiny.
The whole cockpit pilot dynamic is fun and the base modes of the big guys adds more play value. Say what you will about quality or removable heads the TR bots are FUN and really that is what it is all about.
haha Griffin my wife said to me a while back that I have too many transformers. I showed her your website and your youtube clips and told her that when my collection gets even close to yours she can make comments like that.
I might've also said that I aspire to have a collection like yours (although I know I never will), and that if we ever win lotto I'm dedicating an entire wing of our mansion to a Transformertorium (sorry Trev, might've stolen your term there ;) ).
I think a part of her is hoping that we win lotto, and another part is hoping that we don't.
The 1987 line was the "beginning of the end" for G1 (although it was a very drawn out end). But remember that it was ultimately dwindling toy sales which led to the decline in quality and eventual cancellation of the G1 cartoon. So don't blame the cartoon, blame all the quitters who stopped collecting Transformers in/around 1987. :(
Haven't kept track due to a bunch of stuff, when are we supposed to receive the Gnaw/Kickback wave and the Brawn wave? I presume Soundwave has been skipped in major retailers.
Probably in the new year. We are up to wave two for most items in Australia and the US is up to wave 3.
TR Bumblebee, his number plate says, "100 STRA"
Is this a reference to something?
The live action movie bumble's number plates are 900 STRA -pause it at 0:20
I don't know what the 1 is in particular reference to though.
Anyone know the unit count & character distribution per case for the wave 3 TR Generations Legends containing Gnaw, Bumblebee & Kickback?
BBTS has the case ratio at 3 Gnaw, 3 Bbee, 2 Kickback (8 in total).
Obviously the people at Hasbro were catering to some of those in the target audience for the Generations toys (us older collectors) who would probably army-build the Gnaws. If this was a mainline series like RID, I would have expected Gnaw to be the short-packed figure, with either four Bumblebees (because it's the face of Transformers since 2007) or three Kickbacks, which would be the more well known character and recognisable toy to the general public.
they could probably get away with selling cases of just Gnaw.
I know if they turn up at clearance two years from now I'll be getting a few extra. Same goes for kickback really.
Gnaw? Just Tao it.
It is both - one is the currency name (like Aussie Dollar), while one is the primary or base unit of currency (like cents or dollars here).
Renminbi is the name of the currency, translated as "the people's currency", while the Yuan is the unit for prices... but is used by most Westerners as the name of the currency, because it is easier (and more objective as it is less political).
As such, both RMB (for Renminbi) and CNY (for Chinese Yuan) are used as the abbreviation of the currency (like AU$).
Hey Griff, I just noticed we are up to 899 pages of this thread. Does this BBS software have a limit on the number of pages a thread can have?
Let's find out.
Interesting...
odd. i see 899.
ah, you've gone the 40 ppp option. gotchya.
I just set mine to 5 posts per page and am now on page 1799!
Amateurs :rolleyes:
Well, excuse me, Mr. Posty McPostypants
Stupid question here. Just got ho,e with my TR Fort Max and opened him. Are the eyes on the general retail TR Fort Max meant to be uncoloured? Also is he meant to have a weapon of some type?
The regular release didn't have any rifles or swords from memory, only the SDCC & TT versions did.
Question for those of you that are a bit more organised with your collection. Gok I'm looking at you buddy...:p I don't want to go to the extent that Gok has with his shelves of accessories in trays, but I want to keep accessories sorted and easy to find for all the Encore and MP toys I'm about to throw out the clamshells for. (keeping in mind they range from tiny things like MP Red Alert's sparking ear things up to MP-10's trailer). What would you guys recommend to store all if them?
I'm going to keep the outdated MP's that are not on display like MP-4 and MP-14 in their clamshells for now, might consider a selloff for them.
For my loose collection, I use 2 things
Expandafile thingo for instructions/sticker sheets/cards etc
Large Ziplock sandwich bags, with accessories from individual ranges all grouped together in seperate bags, in a small plastic storage tub.