That's too much effort for lazy ol' moi. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Borgeman
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That's too much effort for lazy ol' moi. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Borgeman
Hasbro Masterpiece Bluestreak found at a US ToysRUs, scanning for just 3 cents!
says the guy with a spreadsheet detailing his entire collection:D:DQuote:
Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime
If I want to sell a transformer it goes in a box with others that I intend to sell. Taking something off display doesn't mean I'm selling it, since 90% of my toys are off display.
After updating my spreadsheet (where I document and catalogue my collection), I came to the sobering realization that I've spent $939.95 on Transformers this year (so far)... And that's just the Transformers... I collect other stuff too...
I've spent more than that. :)
But honestly, as long as your collecting is financially sustainable then I don't think it matters much how much you're spending. As long as you're not spending so much on toys that you're having difficulty paying for other things like housing, bills, groceries, clothes, travel, entertainment - and for fellow parents, all the expenses that comes with having kids (schools fees, uniform, extra-curricular activities, books, toys etc.). My wife never complains about my TFs and I don't have to hide acquisitions from her because I only ever use my own disposable income to buy my toys and she knows that it will never financially affect her or our family.
Spending over $1000 on toys per year is fine so long as it's financially sustainable and you're being fiscally responsible. You can spend $500 a year or less on toys and it can be bad if you're living off instant noodles and struggle to pay bills. :o
JMHO. :)
Yeah, thankfully I'm not spending myself into destitution (yet!), and I'm still able to save about 15-20% of my salary after food/rent/utilities/hobbies/etc.
$1000 just felt like a lot of money when I saw it, and I found it amazing that in 2010, when I started buying Transformers again; I thought it'd just be a passing craze and that I'd only buy my favourite characters, then move on. 7 years later, I'm collecting nearly every Generations deluxe figure as soon as it hits shelves (even ones of characters I didn't even like as a child). I think I'm becoming a completist, hahaha.
When you sit down and think about it, it's pretty scary just how much can be/is spent on toys and hobbies. I have spent several grand this year, easily. it helps to stop and think about it maybe realise I don't need to buy everything I see. Which is good because I don't' think I could afford that regardless of my income. I was certainly a lot more careful a few years ago about which toys I did and didn't buy, or where I bought them from.Quote:
Originally Posted by FatalityPitt
I'm sort of coming to this crisis point at the moment myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by UltraMarginal
Renting a place with housemates, I'm quickly running out of personal storage space and noticing how much I have probably spent in the past year has been a somewhat sobering thought. And somewhat linked with a tendency I've noticed within myself to feel the need to collect "stuff" (ie - buying books/movies/CDs/Transformers more to say I have them than enjoy them)
I plan on being a lot more selective with Power of the Primes and any new movie / non-Generations line that they come out with. I said the same thing about RID2015 too...
I know your pain. I live in a one room flat, and I have piles of MIB/MOC figures (Transformers/Marvel Legends/Figma/etc) that are literally stacked to the ceiling. Do a google image search for 'messy otaku room', and you have an idea of what my place looks like :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Seraphim Prime
I still remove some of my figures/transformers from the packaging to play around with, but I end up putting them back in their boxes (or in resealable plastic bags) if I don't end up displaying them. I've been contemplating throwing away the boxes and keeping everything in resealable bags to free up space, but the box to me feels like part of the product.
Yeah, looking at the stuff I've got this year alone and thinking about how much it cost is pretty sobering.. Then again part of me is glad that I've collected this stuff instead of spending my money in a couple other ways. For instance, I might've gone to a fancy restaurant and bought a $25 lobster dish, or I might've chosen to spend the $25 on a deluxe transformer instead. After I eat the lobster, it's gone and has zero value. But with the transformer, it's tangible and can be resold even after I've played with it.. Well, that's how I justify my spending habits.. :D
But you're right, it's good to be selective and buy things you'd enjoy rather than buy just for the sake of owning.
The extreme reverse of this will happen if you ever get married. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by FatalityPitt
Almost all of your pay will go to your spouse for necessities and you get to keep the scraps. ;) But I keep saving those scraps and after some time it becomes a sizable pile of scraps that I can use to spend on toys without affecting the family budget. :D Kinda like being a monetary Womble. :p
Indeed. I've spent over a grand this year on toys and that was almost all at below RRP. I've only spent above RRP on one purchase which was MP Dirge (cos I got sick of waiting for a certain retailer :rolleyes:). One reason why I try to stick to my "Not Above RRP" rule is because collecting Transformers is bloody expensive enough as it is at/below RRP! :o :oQuote:
Originally Posted by UltraMarginal
IMO this is the difference between being a toy collector and being a toy-hoarder.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seraphim Prime
e.g. Leader Class TLK Megatron looks like a really nice toy. But the truth is that I'm perfectly content with my Voyager figure that I enjoy playing with. The only reason that I'd get the Leader Class figure would be just to say that I have it, so... I just don't buy it. Same with toys like Titans Return Megatron, Optimus Prime (triple changer), Octone, Blitzwing, Astrotrain, Alpha Trion etc. - toys that don't personally interest me, so I skip them.
I did personally enter a Toy-Hoarder stage during the middle Unicron Trilogy era when I started buying almost everything including all the stupid repaints. It was at this stage that I basically slapped myself and asked, "What the hell are you doing?!?" as I realised that, yeah, I was buying toys just for the sake of having them over the sake of actually wanting or enjoying them. The act of buying those figures had overridden the act of playing with them.
And I think this is where the "Plastic Crack" term comes in. It's basically a form of specialised shopping addiction. Acquiring or purchasing the toy makes you feel good so you become addicted to that act, but after you buy the toy you experience a low and you don't even enjoy the toy that you've just bought. I realised just how ridiculously stupid this was, so yeah, now I just focus on buying what I actually want. People can tell me how awesome Leader TLK Megatron is, and I won't deny it. It's just not something I want to buy. It's okay to not want to buy something! :D :o
P.S.: I sometimes wonder when I see people who sell off loads of fairly recent toys (especially entire collections of recent lines like Combiner Wars)... was this all just one big series of impulse purchases? :confused: Cos to me, if I really like a toy, then I don't ever want to be rid of it. If I don't want to keep a toy forever then I just don't buy it. Hence why I rarely sell stuff. Most of what I sell is either because another toy has come along that's made it redundant or because I have a spare. With redundant toys it's because the toy was perfectly fine at the time of purchase, but later on something better's come along but I don't want to keep both.
e.g. I'm waiting for my Siege of Cybertron set to come in, so I'll be looking to offload my Titans Return Powermaster Optimus Prime toy after that. Now of course, when I purchased TR PMOP last year I had no idea that TakaraTOMY would retool it as Ginrai, or that Hasbro would then release it as Optimus Prime. I'm not clairvoyant. ;) TRPMOP was a perfectly fine toy when I got it, but it's just that something better has since come out and that toy will make TRPMOP surplus to my needs.
I certainly don't buy toys with the expectation that at some point I will be selling it. I do understand there are some people who will buy a toy, experience it and then sell it once they are happy they got to have that experience.
What I don't get is the 'hey guys please buy all this stuff I don't want to sell because I have a Dentist bill I need to pay for' mentality. I get that it's hard to pass up on stuff you'd like to buy but if you're living that close to the line perhaps you should reconsider. (I saw this in the last week)
I get that sometimes unexpected expenses come up but a single even if big bill shouldn't be putting you in the red.
I've always tried to be selective with what I purchase, knowing that more and more stuff is always going to keep coming out and if I don't like 'this' version of a toy/character just wait a while and there will be another version that I might prefer.
@Seraphim Prime, I know exactly what you mean. I wasn't going to buy into animated, then I went to the 2011 Botcon, now I have pretty much the entire animated toy line. I was also only going to dabble in the latest RID but here I am and I have pretty much every warrior class toy that's been released and the platinum grimlock & Bumblebee set. I do enjoy them though, so I guess it's money well spent, to a point.
I also buy a lot of CD's and Trade paperbacks and other books. I listen to music all the time and probably could stream a lot but there is something special about having your copy of something that you like. My Phantom comic collection is pretty much up to date but I'm nearly 3 years behind reading them simply because of the lack of time lately.
Both of my parents have been collectors of sorts over the years, neither throwing stuff out in case they needed it. so I have a horrible pedigree when it comes to keeping things I might not need. I'm very soon going to have to do a serious box cull. The problem I have, especially with Masterpiece, platinum, Hasbro/Takara special releases and 3rd party is so much of this stuff comes in stunning boxes and it feels like a real crime to throw away the pretty artwork. But at the same time, I'm never going to have enough space to display all that stuff so why keep boxes that are by far the biggest volume sink of a transformers collection.
back to the topic at hand, I buy a lot of transformers and related products and try to avoid buying stuff that i'll not want to keep later. I do find I will buy toys in a line with the expectation that they aren't great, just to see how they work. Crash combiners are a perfect example. They are a bit rubbish but the engineering is interesting. I bought one pair. Lets just say if the kids break this one in a couple years when they're big enough to play with it, I won't be devastated.
Yeah, which is why I told myself I'll only marry after I retire from my action figure/transformer collecting; or at least when I'm able to restrict my purchases down to a Voyager class figure (or equivalent in cost) once per month. This is easier said than done of course :)Quote:
Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime
I actually used to be pretty conservative. Before Titans Return came out, I used to only buy my favourite characters in each line (or at least the most interesting). I'm proud to say that the only Combiner Wars Combiner I have is Victorion. Didn't buy a single deluxe or voyager from CW.. Although I did get the Ultra Magnus Leader class figure, but it was for a pretty good deal ($66).
I allowed myself to buy more Titans Return than most other lines in the past, mainly because the 1987 G1 characters hold a special place in my heart. I was only planning to get the original 7 Headmasters, then call it quits. But after I got them (except Brainstorm - he was later), I saw/heard about how good Hot Rod, Topspin and Triggerhappy were, and so I hunted them down. Along the way I developed an obsession with Getaway (Breakaway), so I got him. I would get bored on weekends and holidays and go to KMart to kill time and I'd see characters like Krok, Perceptor, Misfire, etc; and I'd think to myself "I had Krok as a kid, it'd be weird if I didn't get him" or "I never had a G1 Perceptor" or "I have $25 in my pocket, I hear Misfire is good so I might as well get him". Before I realised it, I had everyone!
I'm happy to have gotten these figures since they're of characters I either had or wanted as a kid. The wonderful thing about Titans Return for me was that it helped me relive some of my childhood and gave me better versions of characters I wanted but couldn't obtain as a child. But I don't think I'll be going this mad over future lines.. Or at least I hope I don't.. I like to think of TR as a special case.
100%. On top of paying for all the stuff you need to pay for, it also makes sense to have money saved aside for surprise expenses.Quote:
Originally Posted by UltraMarginal
e.g. 10 weeks ago I damaged my own car when I overturned while exiting my garage. Obviously panel beaters aren't cheap, but I got it done.
:confused: I don't understand these words :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by FatalityPitt
I wish you luck, let us know how that goes:DQuote:
Originally Posted by FatalityPitt
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Originally Posted by UltraMarginal
Haha. Well maybe not to that extreme, but hopefully achieve a state where I can exercise more moderation. I'll definitely need luck for that!Quote:
Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime
I have an addictive personality, and when I get addicted to something, it can practically take over my life. At the moment, action figure collecting and Transformers is like my religion. When I'm not at work or studying for my CFA exam, I'm on forums like this or at the shops hunting for figures.
I'd also rather spend $25 on a deluxe figure than on a lobster dinner, and I can barely afford to go on dates after splurging on comics and figures.
I admire how people like you can run a family household and still have enough time/money for hobbies, but sadly for me, I don't have that type of discipline or astuteness. For people like me, the only way to cure an addiction is to replace it with a stronger addiction that trumps the previous... Or if the thing I'm addicted to becomes so mediocre that I quit out of boredom and annoyance.
Also, to top things of, I have a type of OCD which also affects my spending. An example (an extreme albeit simple one) - Sometimes if I buy an Optimus Prime figure, I feel compelled to buy a Megatron figure of the same line and scale, even if that Megatron is overpriced garbage. To me, any Optimus Prime is incomplete without a Megatron. And vice versa - If I get Megatron, I must also have Optimus. Even if I don't like a figure, I feel compelled to buy it because things feel...*ahem*.. wrong without it.
You can imagine it'd be challenging for someone in my current state to maintain a relationship, let alone a marriage :o
This picture was posted by Maz on his twitter
https://twitter.com/TFSquareOne/stat...55430418931713
What a glorious-looking toyline Titans Return is when viewed at once.
That's not necessarily a problem. I just did the same thing pre-ordering the MAS-01 and MAS-02, couldn't really have one without the other. I have no idea where I'm going to put them??Quote:
Originally Posted by FatalityPitt
I'm not sure how old you are, but also keep in mind that Gok and I and many others on here are in our late 30's, we've had time to do the mindless splurging thing, and also realise that we want a bit more out of life than just a toy collection. It's also harder these days to collect a little of a toy line I feel. there are less uninteresting re-paints and many more interesting mould updates/repurposing than ever before, and lots more product being released as evidenced by the picture Paulbot just posted.
Decide on a spending budget, put it in a separate account. Looking at that smaller amount will help you to prioritise the things you really want over the things you might otherwise buy on a whim. it also helps to wait for a sale, if you're sure you want an entire wave of deluxes, waiting for a sale can allow you to spend 3ish deluxes worth and get 4 if you're patient.
just some food for thought.
The relationship thing is more complex, there is a relationships thread on here somewhere, not a bad place to go for confusing advice.:rolleyes::D but there are other nerds/geeks/collectors out there who will understand your interests and be a part of your interests rather than stifling your interests in preference to theirs.
Also, if I actually bought everything I liked the look of, it would use up most of my income I imagine, and my wife would either stage an intervention or take the kids and leave. And I wouldn't be able to open the door to the apartment. :D
it is very impressive looking, not to mention a massive amount of product for such a short timeframe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulbot
I can understand that. What is a hero without his villain and vice versa? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by FatalityPitt
I occasionally come across people who choose※ to collect only Autobots or only Decepticons and I just think... how the hell do you play with your toys? The typical response is that they just have continual civil wars. :eek:
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※I say choose because when I was younger I also knew people whose parents wouldn't allow them to collect "evil" toys for religious reasons. They constantly had Autobot/Maximal civil wars too, but it wasn't a choice for them. I knew a guy who came from this kind of family who had something very norti stashed under his bad... Harry Potter books and DVDs! :eek: (because magic = work of the devil). :o I even knew a guy who wasn't allowed to watch the Smurfs.
Yeah, they're getting clever with they're retools. It's amazing to think that the Twintwist and Misfire moulds are derived from Trigerhappy in some way or another.Quote:
Originally Posted by UltraMarginal
Some really good ideas, especially waiting for sales. I always set aside 70% of my income for living expenses - food/rent/etc, 10% for a rainy day, and the rest (usually about 20%) goes to hobbies and entertainment. Sometimes I look at the 20% and think to myself "If I had let it all add up for a few months, I could have gone on a trip to South America, or bought a new car" LolQuote:
Originally Posted by UltraMarginal
Btw, I'm 31. So I'm not a fossil (yet!), but I'm not young enough to get away with certain things anymore :)
There's a relationship thread? This sites got everything!Quote:
Originally Posted by UltraMarginal
(EDIT:Autobots and Decepticons are like yin and yang. It'd be weird to have a Transformers collection with one without the other.)Quote:
Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime
The most recent Megatron I got was the TLK Voyager, and after a few days of owning it; I went scouting for the Optimus Prime from the previous wave. All I found were Hound, Grimlocks and Megatrons. I think I'll see how long I last before I cave in and order it from eBay.
Sometimes, if two or more characters are related to each other from a story perspective, I feel compelled to get them all. Example; I wasn't going to get TR Brawn at first, but since I got the Perceptor and Bumblebee, and they were the main heroes in the G1 episode 'Microbots', I had to get Brawn. Then there's Brainstorm; I got LG-39 Brainstorm because I couldn't stand seeing TR Chromedome, Hardhead and Highbrow without a Brainstorm.. Funny how the cartoons still sway my collecting preferences..
One thing that really excited me with Beast Wars was how, for probably the first time, there was a nearly even number of goodies to baddies. And in Japan (whereas I was living at the time) all BW toys were also available in VERSUS SETS! :D So yeah, almost every early BW TF that I bought was in a versus set. ;) Even after moving back to Oz, I still imported a lot of my BWII and BW Neo figures in versus sets. Heheheheh. :D
Machine Wars was the first vehicular Transformers line to have even sided factions, and indeed in Australia we had Machine Wars versus sets. Although unlike Takara's versus sets they didn't come in specialised boxes or with any bonus content like a CD ROM or play set. They were just two toys stuck together with shrink wrap. :p 'Straya mate! :D
Speaking of Beast Wars, I hope they do a BW Megatron during or immediately after PotP. The upcoming Leader Class Optimus Primal would be a lot cooler displayed next to a Megatron of the same scale. It feels like a while since we've seen a new BW Megatron.
Maybe they could resurrect their planned BW Megatron from WFC Grimlock toy... which we saw a prototype leaked a few years back.
Ideally it'd be Leader class to scale with the PotP Optimus Primal, but voyager is good too. I'd buy that BW Megatron redeco of Grimlock if it ever gets released.Quote:
Originally Posted by griffin
Cogman is such a laaame name for a Transformer.
If a Transformer came out with this name 30 years ago we would all be laughing at it, just as we laughed at the Machine Men's names in comparison with the Transformers.
F15 Man
Motorcycle Man
Tank Man
Buggy Man
Helicopter Man
Police Man
Submarine Man
But even those names are arguably better than Cogman because they describe what they transform into. Cogman doesn't transform into a cog! Even Tonka realised how lame these names were and assigned new names to compete with the Transformers.
F15 Man → Leader-1
Motorcycle Man → Cy-Kill
Tank Man → Tank Man
Buggy Man → Buggy Man
Helicopter Man → Cop-Tur
Police Man → Hans Cuff
Submarine Man → Dive Dive
etc. (I love how they didn't bother changing some of them :p)
You know a name is pretty lame when ever "Scooter" sounds better than it.
P.S.: I may have gotten some of the Machine Men/Gobot names wrong cos uh... I don't really give a skit about Gobots. :p
Presumably the name is what the humans called this alien because he was a man made of cogs (and the name Man of Iron was already taken).
I was thinking about names the other day, and wondered what sort of names the Trainbots would have got had Hasbro released them as an Autobot counterpart team to the Constructicons in 1985?
When I was a kid, I thought Insecticon was a pretty bad name for a Transformer. It made the toy seem so generic that I lost interest in it as soon as I read the name. Sure, there's Dinobot, but the lack of a 'real' name was compensated for by the character's starting role in the BW cartoons.
This was something I thought about back when we first heard the name of Cogman... as in, it sounds soooo lame. But then, put yourself in the shoes of someone from the middle ages, before there was science - what would you call an alien made of machinery and cogs?
To be honest, it would have probably made more sense to be called Metal Man, as that would have been the only component humans at that time would have been familiar with (cogs would have been more from the industrial era anyway).
Unfortunately, the flaw of all this is saying that the humans gave him his name... when obviously he should have had his own name before he came to earth. Or if he was built here, the Cybertronians who built him would have given him a more Cybertronian name.
In other words, when and how did he come to Earth, and why would the humans name him... unless it was like a nickname, and he adopted it as his own name because he liked it.
This is the sort of unexplained element that an IDW comic would have explained, if they had kept doing movie comics.
↑This!Quote:
Originally Posted by griffin
Also, "cog" just means 'tooth,' so in the context of Medieval language I'm not sure if the word "cog" would have an immediate connection with gears. :/ While gears have been around for at least 2500 years (in China), it was until the late fourteenth century that people in Western Europe devised mechanical gears with the advent of cathedral clocks. Although Islam did develop geared machines during the early thirteenth century and I suppose if there were any members of the Order of the Witwiccans who either went on the Crusades or had contact with a Crusader, that they may have had contact with Muslim technology. Gah... this is creating more questions than it's answering. :(
I was in uni when BW came out and I gotta tell ya...Quote:
Originally Posted by FatalityPitt
...I agree. :) I also thought that the use of sub-group names was incredibly lame. I still think it's lame. One thing that Beast Wars generally wasn't great for (at first) was names. They were pretty Gobot-esque in just describing their beast modes.
Cheetah Man → Cheetor
Rhinoceros Man → Rhinox
Dinosaur Man → Dinobot
Insect Man → Insecticon
Tarantula Man → Tarantulas (that's not a name, it's a plural!)
Tiger Man → Tigatron (they couldn't even call him "Tigertron"?)
Baboon Man → B'Boom
Mosquito Man → Transquito
Wolf Man → Wolfang
Wasp Man → Waspinator
etc. :o
But these names were devised by Kenner toy staff, just as the Machine Men names were created by Tonka staff (not sure if it was Tonka or Hanna Barbera who created the Gobot names - but Hanna Barbera characters often didn't have very creative names either... look at the Smurfs :p). G1 TFs had better names because they were created by Marvel writers like Bob Budiansky etc. I think Beast Wars names started getting better when Mainframe Entertainment writers (Larry DiTillio, Bob Forward) started getting involved. Because we know that it was their idea to introduce female Transformers and they asked Kenner/Hasbro if Blackarachnia and Airazor could be female and they agreed (hence why their tech specs bios use female pronouns). And of course, Airazor and Blackarachnia are arguably better names than most of the others. Hasbro did start making an effort here and there to create better names - Quickstrike, Air Hammer, Noctorro, Sonar, Scarem, Nightglider, Jawbreaker etc. It was hit and miss as there were certainly still some shoddy names too (e.g. Injector, Spittor, K-9 etc.).
I'm discounting reuse of G1/G2 names like Buzz Saw, Inferno, Jetstorm, Sky Shadow etc. for obvious reasons. I personally think that the best new name to come from Beast Wars was Depth Charge. :) Inferno would be the best reuse of an existing name.
But yeah, as incredibly awesome as Dinobot is as a toy and character, it's a pretty underwhelming name. It feels so... PlaySkool. Reminds me of the Go-Bots (aka Transformers Big Adventures) from PlaySkool.
Buzzerbot
Gorillabot
Beastbot
Dinobot
.....etc.
Cogman's a pretty weak name for a robot. My first thought was surname Cogman, from watching too much Game of Thrones :p
As a name for a Transformer, it doesn't suck as much as Abel and Jack, but those were created by Japanese scriptwriters in the 80's.
On the topic of names, Dreadbot and Skullitron annoys me. It doesn't make sense for Decepticon to use the suffice "-bot" and an Autobot to use the suffice "-tron", unless both have compelling (or at least a faint residue resembling) backstories filled with intrigue, betrayal and/or friendship (maybe) to support an allegiance change from Autobot to Decepticon and vice versa.
Computron : Feel sad :(Quote:
Originally Posted by SuspectimusPrime
(better than 'Compu-bot' I suppose)
Whenever comparing Bayformers with the G1 cartoon, I'd like to bear in mind that the G1 cartoon didn't have a budget of US$1.8 million per minute.
You got me, we have to let that one slide. Compubot sounds too Disney, and Comperion or Compusor would be plain silly :pQuote:
Originally Posted by FatalityPitt
The Japanese managed to eliminate the 'tron' in Computron's name by renaming him 'ComputiCON' or コンピューティコン (Konpyūtikon)... Not sure if that's any better or worse...Quote:
Originally Posted by SuspectimusPrime
Just got this month's Legends figures, I'm so happy with the current level complexity in the CHUG line. I like Legends Kup and Hot Rod more than the older United and Henkei figures they are replacing in my display.
I think most transformers names have sucked over time.
Prowl, just happens to be given a police car alt mode
hoist just happens to be given a tow truck alt mode,
inferno a fire truck,
bumblebee, a small yellow car
ratchet, the medic kind of makes sense that he'd be given an ambulance.
grapple, - grappling hook, a crane with a hook.
mixmaster - cement mixer
hook a crane
optimus prime, a prime mover
soundwave, the only recognisable piece of sound equipment from the era,
the names make sense in as much as they relate in some way to the alt mode but these 'earthen' words surely wouldn't have associated to their names/alt modes on cybertron. it'd be like every human working as a builder being called bob.
there are others that stand out like megatron, jazz, hound, starscream but they are the minority I think.
I've just accepted that in general transformers names are cornily related to their colour, alt mode or function.
Oh and I really dig the transformation on Orion Pax/Kup from the titans return line. the way the legs transform in particular.
Ratchet is also a cultural reference to a well known medic. Nurse Ratched.Quote:
Originally Posted by UltraMarginal
After getting Magnus Prime I tried to sell my TR PM OP but didn't get any real interests. I've now decided to repurpose Magnus Prime as Ginrai in my fanon and keep TRPMOP as PMOP. ;) Magnus Prime is a canonical anomaly - even tfwiki can't determine exactly which character it's meant to be or if it's meant to be a new/unique character. There's conflicting information. But the plus side is that it makes it "fanonically flexible." People can just make it whoever they want to be. Okay, you can really repurpose any toy to be whoever you want it to be, but for me, having a toy that's canonically ambiguous makes it easier. :)
I think this is the logical conclusion as well considering that the headmaster is called Ginrai and the only other figure that has a Ginrai headmaster is Super Ginrai. If the headmaster was called Apex, Hi-Q, Diac or even Refractor then sure I'd say "Magnus Prime" was meant to be another version of Optimus, but since he comes with Ginrai to me it seems like he's meant to be a version of Ginrai. Or if one prefers "American Super Ginrai" could work lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime
I dont think it's worth considering the idea that Magnus Prime is a version of Ultra Magnus like some people have suggested.
We shouldn't forget that in some continuities "Magnus" is a Cybertronian millitary rank, not a name, the same as "Prime" is a rank within the Autobot faction.
So in this case "Magnus Prime" could just mean "Supreme Commander of the Autobot military, leader of the Autobots, and bearer of the Matrix of Leadership". It's definitely less of a mouthful to just say "Magnus Prime" :p
But reading John Warden's explaination about the figure and its name seems to solidify that it's Ginrai, just "Americanized".
Anyway those are my thoughts on the identity of "Magnus Prime"
:)
My daughter's RID Windblade gained a sister named Scorchfire ;)
Goodness know what I am going to do with TR PM Prime when PotP Prime shows up. There is a certain appeal to using Apex as the core of the Matrix.
OTOH I am looking forward to hiding Ptero and Clobber on Swoop and Grimlock somewhere.
Something positive...I've had a really good past month TF-wise. It's only been one or two things, but they've been great bargains on pieces that I've been looking for for a while and are a little hard to find these days.
It's a small happiness, but a pleasant one.:)