They were sufficiently different in design, with PM OP Titan Master having an open mouth as well as the substantially different cab and chest.
I hadn't thought about it, but I would say that they were different characters.
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They were sufficiently different in design, with PM OP Titan Master having an open mouth as well as the substantially different cab and chest.
I hadn't thought about it, but I would say that they were different characters.
I would agree with them being different characters. The Legends toys (and fiction) makes it pretty clear that Ginrai is Ginrai as well. I think there is one joke about how it looks like Convoy, but that's it. Also the head is Ginrai and the body is also cooled Ginrai, whereas PMop I think has Apex? I think that even going back to G1 there is enough difference between the two (character wise) to say that while they look the same, they aren't the same character. (IMO);)
I agree with that. Was just wanting to see how others felt.
Of course, this means I really need to find a Power Master Optimus Prime now as I have been putting it off as I have Ginrai. My CHUG collection is character-based rather than by line like most people tend to do.
Ginray? How do you pronounce it?
For what it's worth, despite seeing them as different characters, I felt no need for the TR Powermaster Prime, as the Classics (and now Earthrise) figure was sufficient - partly because of a lack of connection to the original, but also because I didn't think it was that great an execution from the Magnus mould and much preferred the Ginrai version, which I did get.Quote:
Originally Posted by DELTAprime
I have a TR PMOP in storage if that's what you're afterQuote:
Originally Posted by DELTAprime
I just bought pmop in a lot and will be selling it if you wantQuote:
Originally Posted by DELTAprime
It might be Gin-Rye, Gok and Ode to Grasshopper would know better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Autocon
The TFWiki has the pronunciation as Jinrai, which would be Gin-Rye (as in the drink and the grain). So for whatever reason they decided to Anglicise the English spelling a bit, possibly to emphasise his 'I left Japan to come to America' backstory/characterisation.
It's still better than the Lightfoot/Leftfoot pun at any rate.
it might have been asked before but is the december 31st 2021 date on the zing site the actual release date for haslab unicron (for australia) or a placeholder?
Or do we still not know?
Placeholder.... Anything they don't know at all gets that date (Well, end of year of the year expected)Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaxius._
For some reason I had February in my mind.
BUt looking at the Haslab website I note that it only commits to early 2021. That would be for orders sent from Hasbro Pulse. I believe our orders tend to be a little after that.
Does Titans Return Fort Max have the same gun turret in his forearm that Generations Metroplex does?
I have neither toy but looking at TFwiki, "Fortress Maximus retains the opening compartment in his right forearm from Metroplex, but the gun emplacement is no longer present, seemingly meant to represent the holding cell from his original toy given its red coloration."Quote:
Originally Posted by Thurmus
Thanks nalops.
I had February in my mind as well. I think it may have been the pre-pandemic ETA.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seraphim Prime
Nope, not pre-pandemic. UK vendors have let it be known that the official word to them from Hasbro is that Unicron will be ready at the very end of January 2021. This was posted to TFW2005 on the 11th of October.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thurmus
Is Black Friday generally a good day to get a bargain as a TF collector or do we not see too much in the way of reductions on certain items?
It has the potential to be good. There's meant to be an Amazon exclusive dropping too.
is this the Combiner wars Devastator that was mentioned previously?Quote:
Originally Posted by nalops
No, that's a seperate thing.
Does anyone else really not like the parts formers that HasTak has been doing in the last couple of Generations lines?
I feel they are pretty damn lazy.
I don't like all of the empty holes/sections in limbs that have a couple of bars across for strength.
I don't care for it, but it doesn't piss me off, and I'm certainly not avoiding a toy because of it. And I can understand why they do it - in the last two lines Hasbro's designers have been more restricted in their design options than normal, because the whole War For Cybertron thing is "it looks kinda like the cartoon, but slightly modernised". This puts real limits on what they can design; couple that with their existing limits for budget and child safety requirements, and you start to see that rather than being the easy way out, parts-forming for some toys may well have been the only way out. Yes, Cliffjumper and Bumblebee quite obviously could have been done without parts-forming; we've had at least one 3d printed kit that proves it. But could those couple of extra parts have been incorporated whilst remaining within Hasbro's budget for a deluxe?Quote:
Originally Posted by DELTAprime
I have the same "really not an issue" approach to complaints about fake parts. Okay then, you don't like what they did with Earthrise Prime's midriff? Fine, you find another way to go from a wide and square truck front to a tapering abdominal section without going over budget. And that last part is why we get fake parts.
If you (the general you, not you you :) ) want it to look like it stepped off the screen, and have a near-magical transformation sequence that keeps everything together, then you'd better be prepared to pay a lot more for your toys. Right now, for the most part, Hasbro doesn't seem prepared to make that kind of toy (but are at least testing the waters, with SS86 Hot Rod). I would suggest investigating the work of Magic Square Toys.
The Arcee/Elita-1 and upcoming Warpath ones definitely seem a little over the top on the partsforming, for sure. I don't mind it so much on the Cliffjumper/Bumblebee mold because at least it still stores in both modes and allows for different character models to be portrayed, but 'hey here's a shield/hoverboard' is a little bit overt, especially when the hoverboard doesn't really do anything to become the hoverboard. If it at least had a few panels that flipped out and made it look less like a bunch of alt-mode kibble then it wouldn't be so bad, but as it is...eh.
I'm glad they haven't tried it with the upcoming SS Scourge or Kingdom Blackarachnia, those character designs seem like they'd be ripe for shield-forming.
Earthrise Arcee is a bad one, I'll grant that.
You could make the argument that they need to parts-form/shell-form in order to make it look like Arcee from the cartoon (the idiotic sexbot look), but having got my hands on an Animated Arcee I can no longer really accept that. Seeing how they did Cyberverse Wildwheel doesn't make it any better. It turns out that yes, you can incorporate the body and limbs of a slender bot into the actual substance of a vehicle if you want. I can't argue against budget issues (there would be a lot of parts and joints), but I think they could do it if they threw a bit more money at this one toy and less at a few others (which seems to be what they do in a line anyway; there's always at least one toy per line, sometimes per wave, that clearly got less attention and effort than the others).
I really like this term. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Ode to a Grasshopper
Yeah, all this. I did a parts count of ER Cliffjumper and as he is he has one of the highest parts counts for a deluxe, at least against what I compared it to. I suppose they could have ditched the weapon to give it the extra bits necessary to avoid shield-forming, but I feel like the weapon is a better choice in terms of giving people the perception of value, as not everyone understands how parts counts can affect the price of a toy. What I bet a lot of people don't realise is Siege Refraktor has a far lesser parts count than Cliffjumper, but nobody hesitated to buy three of those. Does being a head taller really make Refraktor a better figure in terms of value?Quote:
Originally Posted by JJJ
My general rule is not to buy any parts-forming TF toy unless the original toy or animation model on which it's based partformed (e.g. Skytread, Omega Supreme). If it's not based on an existing toy/character, it just shouldn't parts-form.
Do any of you have an easy way of remembering which of the two Decepticon cars is Runabout and which one is Runamuck? I always get them mixed up.
Just remember that the one with muck in the name is the one that isn't the mucky colour.
Or Runamuck isn't black?
What about
RunaB = black
RunaM = the other one
runawhite and runablack.
I gave up trying to get it right
Paulbot's way is how I always remembered it too - the Black one has B in its name.
Thanks.
Was there meant to be a black friday exclusive this year? I swear i heard about one but obviously it’s been black friday and nothing
So looking back, it turned out to be the SS Devastator box set. I know the info about it being on Prime Day or Black Friday confused a lot of people, including me, but the initial post said the toy would be revealed 17th October and yea.Quote:
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https://www.facebook.com/21441975859...7187532653272/
https://www.facebook.com/21441975859...8500755521949/
There was also talk of Combiner wars Devastator reissue for amazon AU? https://www.facebook.com/ozformers/p...10155419023150
CW Devastator got pushed back until next year.
https://www.facebook.com/21441975859...9692188069473/