I need to vent!

http://www.billshrink.com/blog/5787/...tration-costs/

Pay for speed, not data.

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Originally Posted by griffin

Hong Kong is almost the size of Hobart!
With a third of the population of Australia, crammed into an area 1/6000th the size!!!

That sort of population density (the fourth most dense country in the world), makes infrastructure cheaper than here, and offers more competition from businesses that are all located in the same area (in Australia we might have more companies/providers, but some may only cover certain regions or cities - reducing competition in the country as a whole). Plus, our cities have to offset/subsidise the regional areas, which is the sticking point for our proposed National Broadband Network - some politicians are chasing votes by wanting regional users pay more for the higher set-up costs out there, while other politicians want everyone to pay the same, despite it costing less to set-up and operate in the cities, for 90% of the population.

In HK, they don't have that same cost variance issue, as their providers can cover the same amount of people with probably 1/2000th less expense (the differences in landmass and population densities of our two countries). As such, I'm not surprised that they have a significantly cheaper access to Internet, and don't see our prices as being excessive.
We do have adequate competition here for the limitations our providers have working against them (large landmass is difficult/expensive to 'hardwire' or provide full and/or affordable coverage).

For the record...
HK - 1,100 km2 - 7million people = 6,480 people per km2.
Hobart - 1,400 km2 - 210,000 people.
Australia - 7.6million km2 - 22.5million people = 3 people per km2.

Australia has six thousand times the land mass, but only 3 times the number of people as HK.
Think of it this way - take the population of Australia's largest and third largest cities (Sydney and Brisbane), and squeeze them into Hobart.
Now take all those services, businesses and infrastructure and cram them into that small area... now what cost savings can you imagine are now possible? You already have 2 large city's worth of duplication, plus less area to cover for just about every business being 'relocated' to a small city like Hobart.
Now imagine ISPs in those two Cities servicing the same number of people in an area the size of Hobart? A lot more competition and cheaper deals would occur, wouldn't they? But in Australia, with a density of just 3 people per square Kilometer... us city foke have to pay for services (not just internet) that can often cover large tracks of unpopulated or sparcely populated land. :(

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Yeah that's not much we can do. Countless threads at whirlpool also complain about our comparatively weaker internet setups but in the end what can be done? I'm sure one year we'll catch up with cheap and unlimited broadband, one day.

So back to venting, I sure as hell don't miss the exam times of the year! :mad::mad::mad:

the more excuses/justification we/you make, the longer things stay the same.

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Originally Posted by jazzcomp

And the liberals just want to keep the existing network :D Although labor may overestimated the cost for the upgrade :( Either way Australia loses. Who does Australia want to match up with? :rolleyes: Probably can't match some 3rd world country in terms of cost/service/speed. I guess there are more old people who aren't tech savvy than the youth in australia. I honestly don't know Aussie stats. But it seems the older gen has more say and they're general consensus is that the network is fast enough :confused:

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It is fast enough, we just need *more* of it.

Also you forget the companies themselves. ADSL was 8Mb capable day one, yet they limited it to 150Kb/s for many years, then suddenly overnight it was "upgraded" to 8 megabit with the rollout of competitor adsl2 equipment.

Do not forget history.

Plus fiber isn't the big godsend either. Replacing the current copper, we still end up with a digital system that can only still take so many concurrent connections.

There's a lot of that going on. Just holding technology down to keep making money of the old one.

Fast enough is relative. Before, it was ok to download overnight. Now people want stuff straight away.

I just wonder why on HD they want to be ones of the first, phasing out analog :D

I'm not on ADSL, my wireless sucks. I keep getting disconnected and wasting download data allocation because I need to restart my downloads every effing time. Can't help it though, I'm renting and it's tough to transfer if you're on a contract and the next place you find isn't serviced by your provider. I'm also in a poor connection area. Can't move right now as everywhere else is almost more expensive. :(

I just want to have a cable package with general stuff plus espn and maybe hbo on it. Not add so much on top of the basic. So expensive, I decided not to get cable.

What will you expect from history? More of the same? Lame ass service till a competitor offers a cheaper price :( Then you'll roll out the same. Do you know how old TIVO is?

My cell provider doesn't even provide loyalty offers after you finish your contract. :(

What is next to fiber? A lot already had fiber a long time ago. :(

Can't listen to the NBA game on internet? :(

can anyone else do it? I used to be able to a few years ago, even live video.

i used to do it a bit last year and so did my mate
just google for a live stream

:mad: as far fetched as it was, and I am sure the entirety of Members didnt actually believe it, but f*#king hell!

Was there a need to police us and close the thread 'The Charlie Chaplin Time Traveller'?! Simply because a mod found it to be too 'ridiculous'?

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Originally Posted by gantz

:mad: as far fetched as it was, and I am sure the entirety of Members didnt actually believe it, but f*#king hell!

Was there a need to police us and close the thread 'The Charlie Chaplin Time Traveller'?! Simply because a mod found it to be too 'ridiculous'?

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Gotta agree there. I found it quite comical and an enjoyable read.

Yeah that was the point, and it was!

oh well :(

Maybe someone should start a 'conspiracy' thread. :P

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Originally Posted by Demonac

Maybe someone should start a 'conspiracy' thread. :P

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That'd probably be considered too ridiculous. :rolleyes:

Each to their own I guess. :)

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Originally Posted by Hursticon

That'd probably be considered too ridiculous. :rolleyes:

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Beat me to it :D

Thinking or even considering there were digital mobile phones back in that era is ridiculous. :rolleyes:

I could have said what I really thought, but there are too many panties in a knot already. These past few public complaint posts is why I closed that thread.

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Originally Posted by Demonac

Maybe someone should start a 'conspiracy' thread. :P

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Originally Posted by Hursticon

That'd probably be considered too ridiculous. :rolleyes:

Each to their own I guess. :)

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If you do, use a scrap of some sense (because there is none when it comes to most conspiracies), and put it in the combat arena. Thanks.

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Originally Posted by MV75

put it in the combat arena.

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What combat arena?

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Originally Posted by MV75

Thinking or even considering there were digital mobile phones back in that era is ridiculous. :rolleyes:

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So there shouldn't be discussion topics on ridiculous things?
Funny, I thought we were members of a board that celebrates Giant, Talking Alien-Robots? :confused:

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I could have said what I really thought, but there are too many panties in a knot already. These past few public complaint posts is why I closed that thread.

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Please, don't let us stop you from voicing your opinion - it is an open board after all - just bare in mind that under 18s view these posts.
I don't think anyone had their 'panties in a knot' dude, just our reactions to overzealous policing. ;)

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If you do, use a scrap of some sense (because there is none when it comes to most conspiracies), and put it in the combat arena. Thanks.

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I don't think anyone was really considering it a conspiracy, but ok Dad. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Hursticon

So there shouldn't be discussion topics on ridiculous things?
Funny, I thought we were members of a board that celebrates Giant, Talking Alien-Robots? :confused:



Please, don't let us stop you from voicing your opinion - it is an open board after all - just bare in mind that under 18s view these posts.
I don't think anyone had their 'panties in a knot' dude, just our reactions to overzealous policing. ;)



I don't think anyone was really considering it a conspiracy, but ok Dad. :rolleyes:

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QFT!

And what combat arena?

Not buying toys at the store because i don't want to buy repaints. Then changing my mind about them only to have them unavailable in stores. So i go looking on ebay only to find the minimum selling price is $60 eg deluxe Universe 2.0.

I understand market value but if i had of brought them in store i would be paying far less.

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Originally Posted by LordCyrusOmega

Not buying toys at the store because i don't want to buy repaints. Then changing my mind about them only to have them unavailable in stores. So i go looking on ebay only to find the minimum selling price is $60 eg deluxe Universe 2.0.

I understand market value but if i had of brought them in store i would be paying far less.

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depends which deluxe your looking for :P

True but i just came across universe 2.0 Smokescreen for $70 and thats what triggered this

Ugh. No matter where I go to try I can't get Mew for my HeartGold game. Third day trying and the damned DS refused to keep a connection with any WiFi spot. The one time it seemed to work it just sat there looking for a mystery gift for 10 minutes so that clearly wasn't getting though. Why is it so hard??

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Originally Posted by LordCyrusOmega

True but i just came across universe 2.0 Smokescreen for $70 and thats what triggered this

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$70 for a lousy recolour that is inferior to its henkei counterpart? !@#$

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Originally Posted by gantz

:mad: as far fetched as it was, and I am sure the entirety of Members didnt actually believe it, but f*#king hell!

Was there a need to police us and close the thread 'The Charlie Chaplin Time Traveller'?! Simply because a mod found it to be too 'ridiculous'?

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Just read the thread now and I found it quite amusing. What was even more amusing was it being locked for being ridiculous :confused: I didn't realise that the internet filter had already started ;) Oops, I'm going to be censored for saying that aren't I :p

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Originally Posted by kaiden

$70 for a lousy recolour that is inferior to its henkei counterpart? !@#$

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I know. Prices are just getting ridiculous online

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Originally Posted by LordCyrusOmega

True but i just came across universe 2.0 Smokescreen for $70 and thats what triggered this

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That's disgusting. I just sold mine to jazzcomp for what amounted to less than 15 dollars.

It is but gdmetro helped me out with a far, far cheaper one. many thanks

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Originally Posted by gantz

:mad: as far fetched as it was, and I am sure the entirety of Members didnt actually believe it, but f*#king hell!

Was there a need to police us and close the thread 'The Charlie Chaplin Time Traveller'?! Simply because a mod found it to be too 'ridiculous'?

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Situation has been rectified, and topic re-opened.
Sorry.

the courts I play for is next to netball courts (so many of them) and they are crowding the parking lot for basketball. :(

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Originally Posted by Hursticon

So there shouldn't be discussion topics on ridiculous things?

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From now on all topics relating to Michael Bay transformers are banned! :p

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Originally Posted by SamLoi888

That's disgusting. I just sold mine to jazzcomp for what amounted to less than 15 dollars.

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Really grateful for that :)

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Originally Posted by jazzcomp

Really grateful for that :)

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No problem! My uncle rocks! :)

Transformed movie Swerve for the last time in ages last night, in preparation for turning him into G1 dead end ... and the bloody head has disappeared! :mad::confused:
I think it sprung off when I moved the trunk and is somewhere in our lounge room.
I've told the kids whoever finds it will get a cash reward ($2!!!) but I gave the place a good going-over last night with no joy. :(
I've bought a rotf Sideswipe for a head swap but I'm still going to be a head short... however, I am thinking of modding one of my loose heads to replace Swerve's missing noggin.

Still, it is a pain.

FK! girls are really messign with me


wheres my girl manual

on another note i went to the zoo...not alot there:o:(

i cant find anyone to take me driving so i cant take my hours up! it is really frustrating me now.........:mad::(

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Originally Posted by Autocon

i cant find anyone to take me driving so i cant take my hours up! it is really frustrating me now.........:mad::(

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Not sure of the licensing laws in your state, but for NSW, if you are over the age of 25, you don't need to fill the log book. So good news for me I suppose.

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Originally Posted by Autocon

i cant find anyone to take me driving so i cant take my hours up! it is really frustrating me now.........:mad::(

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i feel that. People keep telling me to learn how to drive but no-one is willing to take me? Not as if i'm a bad driver either

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Originally Posted by 1AZRAEL1

Not sure of the licensing laws in your state, but for NSW, if you are over the age of 25, you don't need to fill the log book. So good news for me I suppose.

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Still need to fill in the log book if your over 25 in NSW. I know cause they makin me do it. I wish there was a way around it.

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Originally Posted by LordCyrusOmega

Still need to fill in the log book if your over 25 in NSW. I know cause they makin me do it. I wish there was a way around it.

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Question, when did you get you L's? If you got them before the end of last year, that may be why.

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From RTA Website
From 19 December 2009 learner drivers who are 25 years old and over are exempt from completing the Learner Driver Log Book.

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Also, I called them when I saw that and they told me the same thing.

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Originally Posted by 1AZRAEL1

Question, when did you get you L's? If you got them before the end of last year, that may be why. Also, I called them when I saw that and they told me the same thing.

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I got mine begining of 2009, bout march

so i don't need to fill in the log book? Thats great news!

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Originally Posted by LordCyrusOmega

I got mine begining of 2009, bout march

so i don't need to fill in the log book? Thats great news!

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Call up the RTA and find out, because according to the website and what they told me, you could be exempt. Just check with them first.

Will do and thanks. If that works out it will save me a lot of trouble