2010 Razzies

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Originally Posted by Bartrim

In my opinion Avatar was visually excellent but it was a very basic plot filled with a whole lot of character stereotypes.

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Ah, but you see.... even if the plot was "basic" at least it was (as I wrote earlier) "coherent"...

As Gutsman Heavy wrote a few post ago, not every film's plot has to be incredibly complicated to work. In fact, with all the visuals going on, I dare say Avatar wouldn't have been as successful if its plot was any more complicated! Star Wars' plot is very basic... is that a crap movie too?

Sadly, ROTF was full of plot holes (not to mention the biggest Deus Ex Machina [literally] I've seen in years).

But, again, I don't care that you liked ROTF. More power to you!

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Originally Posted by Bartrim

I prefer ROTF as atleast I didn't know what was going to happen.

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No one did... not even Michael Bay! :rolleyes: That's what happens when you start filming before the script is finished!!

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Originally Posted by Bartrim

I had Avatar worked out in about 20 minutes and I don't wish to insult anyone by assuming but if anyone couldn't tell what was going to happen then I seriously question that persons intelligence.

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Geez, and that's supposed to not be insulting???! So, if I was surprised by anything that happened in Avatar I must be an idiot? Cheers!

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Originally Posted by Bartrim

Please noone use the excuse that Avatar was super successful because ROTF was too.

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The difference with Avatar is that its Box Office numbers got stronger, which meant it was doing something right on the word-of-mouth scene! Obviously more people liked Avatar then disliked it!

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Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime

yeah, almost every thing is ripped off or inspired by something else. i believe there's a chinese proverb that says, "there has been no new thought for the last 100 years."

the 1st star wars movie was a blend of flash gordon + kurosawa jp period

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Yep. Star Wars was almost a "remake" of The Hidden Fortress. And what about Tarantino's Reservoir Dogs... that was very "similar" to both City on Fire and Kansas City Confidential! Almost exactly similar! ;)

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Originally Posted by Robzy

Geez, and that's supposed to not be insulting???! So, if I was surprised by anything that happened in Avatar I must be an idiot? Cheers!

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Did I say you must be an idiot? No I don't believe I said those I words. I said I would question your intelligence. Unfortunately this is not a perfect world and we not all created equal and intellenge levels differ person to person.

I will say this. My brother does not watch a movie unless it involves Star Wars, The Simpsons, James Bond, Ford Fairlane or a dead guy named Bernie (but not the sequel) and I described the first 20minutes of Avatar to him and he basically cut me off and finished the story.

I've said my peace for this thread. I'll leave everyone here to make fun of a box office success at their own will.

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I can do that too!

Rom-com: they'll get together!
Horror: the baddie will come back for one last scare!
Action/Adventure: the good guy will win!

The Oscars speaks alot about Avatar, so if it wasn't for the visual effects & sets... it's nothing more than a glorified version Pocohontas (like some have suggested)

Hey, ROTF won an Oscar for sound effects. :)

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Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime

Hey, ROTF won an Oscar for sound effects. :)

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It was nominated, but I don't think it won it.

It's funny that Sandra Bullock gets the worst actress razzie, and then gets the Oscar for best actress. Go figure.

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Originally Posted by 1AZRAEL1

It's funny that Sandra Bullock gets the worst actress razzie, and then gets the Oscar for best actress. Go figure.

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I heard that too this morning on the radio. Just another example of why I don't take any of these 'awards' seriously.

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Originally Posted by 5FDP

I heard that too this morning on the radio. Just another example of why I don't take any of these 'awards' seriously.

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Yeah, she shouldn't have got either. :D

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Originally Posted by 5FDP

I heard that too this morning on the radio. Just another example of why I don't take any of these 'awards' seriously.

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Of course, it was for 2 completely different films. If she'd won them both for the same performance, then that would be something.

Of course big films or performers are more likely to cop a Razzie. Of those who have much to give, much is asked. If they do not deliver, it will be made known.