WFC2 - Fall of Cybertron game revealed

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Originally Posted by UltraMarginal

REALLY? I have never seen it over here, I ended up buying it in the states earlier this year when I was there. have thoroughly enjoyed it so far.

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Yeah same here (although griffin bought it from the States then I bought it from him - but effectively my copy came from the USA). I went to various different EB Games several times bugging them about WFC on PC and they kept telling me that it wasn't in their system. :/ Maybe it never got released in Sydney/NSW??

The only other Aussie I ever saw on the WFC PC servers while playing multiplayer was gekisou... who used to pwn my sorry noob butt something chronic! :p

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Originally Posted by UltraMarginal

I only play games like this on PC, it's so much faster. either way I will be importing the PC release if I can't buy it here or on Steam, that is assumiing there is a PC release...

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yeah - I'm not a gamer, but I wanna play Transformers cos ya know, it's Transformers. ;) I don't really wanna buy a console just to play ONE game.

Although if WOC doesn't come out on PC I might consider getting myself a PS3 cos I don't have a Blu Ray player atm... would have to sell off my Wii though (which I never play anyway :p)

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Originally Posted by griffin

Pre-orders? For something that is 14 months away? Really?
Unless it is a limited edition item that is going to sell out before it is released (which it won't since it is just the regular version), who's really going to pre-order this 14 months in advance?

US$60 - 1/12/12... I'll start saving up... :p

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U.S date 1/12/12 which could mean 12/1/12?

It's definitely 1st December 2012 - I just swapped around the day and month digits so that it wouldn't confuse us here who have dates written "the correct way". :p

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Originally Posted by Hursticon

For those with the PC version of WFC, checkout this thread over here on TFW2005; I've implemented this fix and I can say that there is a definite visual improvement for sure. ;):cool:

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Very interesting thanks.

December dates like that usually mean that they don't actually know when it's being released.

Depending on the success of the console release, this might actually hit PC's further down the track. @ a relatively cheap $60 pricetag I'm kinda worried about the possible low production value though.

Looking forward to an epic trailer. They tend to convert non believers and entice skeptic fanboys like Gok :D

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Originally Posted by tinyJazz

Has anyone played the Jurassic park game where every second level you play as a dinosaur? IT WAS AWESOME. :D When I was seven it was awesome, I don't know how it holds up today.

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Originally Posted by Bartrim

Hell yeah it was awesome. I remember playing that on Mega Drive. The velicoraptor became my favourite dinosaur after that. Why? Because he is a boss!

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Oh wow the memories. There was also a JP game on the PS where you could play as a T-rex. Jumping up to knock the guys out of their nests so you could eat them never got old.:D

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Originally Posted by canofwhoopass_87

Depending on the success of the console release, this might actually hit PC's further down the track. @ a relatively cheap $60 pricetag I'm kinda worried about the possible low production value though.

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This.

I hope its not going to be one of those sequel games where they just give the original a new skin and call it a new game. Some added complexity to gameplay would be a nice...Though with the introduction of combiners it dose indeed look like they are adding a few new and interesting elements to the game.

So excited about FOC though. What does everyone think of Optimus Prime's new design?

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Originally Posted by RageOnTheRoads

So excited about FOC though. What does everyone think of Optimus Prime's new design?

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I dig it :D, he looks tough and badass but I hope that they explain his difference in look compared to that of WFC narratively :cool:; it'll suck if it's just a case of: "Hey, what? - Nah, we always looked like this". ;)

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Originally Posted by canofwhoopass_87

Depending on the success of the console release, this might actually hit PC's further down the track. @ a relatively cheap $60 pricetag I'm kinda worried about the possible low production value though.

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$60 is the normal retail price for console games in America.

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Originally Posted by Hursticon

I dig it :D, he looks tough and badass but I hope that they explain his difference in look compared to that of WFC narratively :cool:; it'll suck if it's just a case of: "Hey, what? - Nah, we always looked like this". ;)

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LOL, yup. I am not holding my breath though because so far Highmoon Studios is trying to explain it away as a 'natural progression'. :rolleyes:

As for me, I am praying to the plastic gods that he gets made into a voyageur class figure along with a couple more WFC characters. WFC Combaticon figs would be cooler than a frozen Chuck Norris.

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Originally Posted by RageOnTheRoads

LOL, yup. I am not holding my breath though because so far Highmoon Studios is trying to explain it away as a 'natural progression'. :rolleyes:

As for me, I am praying to the plastic gods that he gets made into a voyageur class figure along with a couple more WFC characters. WFC Combaticon figs would be cooler than a frozen Chuck Norris.

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Why is Grimlocks alt mode a problem for people? He was only a special character for 1 of the 4 platforms WFC was on and wasn't includes in anyway in PS3 or XBox story OR WFC novel so in my opinion he was just a bonus

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Originally Posted by Gutsman Heavy

Grimlock will be a dinosaur cos that's how everyone (read: non-fans) remembers him.

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that and dinosaurs are just cool especially robot dinosaurs

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Originally Posted by theheretic

Why is Grimlocks alt mode a problem for people?

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1: It doesn't make sense for any Transformer to transform into an Earthen alt mode prior to contact with Earth (or any other place which may have similar life forms). This is something that Transformers has established since the beginning of G1; they only acquired their Earthen modes after arriving on Earth, or in some cases, in preparation to going to Earth (but it still meant that the Transformers had already had prior contact with Earth and thus access to things on it).

2: It's inconsistent. We've not seen any other WFCverse Transformer with a distinctly Earthen Alt Mode.

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Originally Posted by jennifermiss123

So, it appears to be Classics Grimlock on one Magazine cover?

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It doesn't look like Classics Grimlock to me - looks like a whole new design, but it certainly looks like a robotic T-Rex to me.

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Originally Posted by loophole

that and dinosaurs are just cool especially robot dinosaurs

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F-22 Raptors are freakin' awesome too, but how would you feel if Starscream transformed into one instead of a Cybertronian jet while all the other Decepticons are Cybertronian vehicles? Lamborghini Diablos are cool too, but it might seem odd for WFC Sideswipe to transform into one on pre-Earth contact Cybertron while other Autobots don't.

As weird as it was in Challenge of the Gobots for the Gobots to all transform into Earth vehicles prior to contact with Earth, at least they were consistent. And it's not often I ever say anything positive about Gobots! :p ;) :p

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Originally Posted by theheretic

Why is Grimlocks alt mode a problem for people? He was only a special character for 1 of the 4 platforms WFC was on and wasn't includes in anyway in PS3 or XBox story OR WFC novel so in my opinion he was just a bonus

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Grimlock...:confused: I was talking about Prime, his groovy new design and the hopes that the game (or the tie in media) show us what's happened to our fave Autobot leader to turn him in to the badass bot he is in the new game.

There's a potentially fun little side story in that.

On another note I love the way the highmoon studio artist refers to OP's new alt mode as a fist with wheels. :cool: Excellent.

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Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime

F-22 Raptors are freakin' awesome too, but how would you feel if Starscream transformed into one instead of a Cybertronian jet while all the other Decepticons are Cybertronian vehicles? Lamborghini Diablos are cool too, but it might seem odd for WFC Sideswipe to transform into one on pre-Earth contact Cybertron while other Autobots don't.

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Maybe he's not a Dinosaur but a mobile cybertronian trash compactor? It coincidently resembles a dinosaur or something...

I remember seeing dinosaur bones in some horrible CGI animated series that followed beast wars....thus cybertron must have had some firm of dinosaur on it at some stage and maybe somewhere below the surface there still is. I also remember the quintessons had monster experiments left on cybertron, so why not a dinosaur too?

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Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime

1: It doesn't make sense for any Transformer to transform into an Earthen alt mode prior to contact with Earth (or any other place which may have similar life forms). This is something that Transformers has established since the beginning of G1; they only acquired their Earthen modes after arriving on Earth, or in some cases, in preparation to going to Earth (but it still meant that the Transformers had already had prior contact with Earth and thus access to things on it).

2: It's inconsistent. We've not seen any other WFCverse Transformer with a distinctly Earthen Alt Mode.

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Maybe he saw Trypticons robot mode and thought "Thats bad ass. I might change into that" because lets face it in WFC there is not really a need for any alt modes as they aren't used for disguises. Sure they use their alt modes as modes for transportation but maybe Grimlock lives in an area where it's a benefit for him to change into that mode. Really before we see every bit of information we can't comment as to why his alt mode is what it is.

I have 14 months to finish the first game :o

I'm sure they (the developers) will explain the design choice for Grimlock when they are ready. For now, I'm keeping it together ;)

Primus did it!

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Originally Posted by theheretic

I remember seeing dinosaur bones in some horrible CGI animated series that followed beast wars....thus cybertron must have had some firm of dinosaur on it at some stage and maybe somewhere below the surface there still is. I also remember the quintessons had monster experiments left on cybertron, so why not a dinosaur too?

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Oh Anubis! :eek: - WFC/Beast Machines Retcon?...

http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/.../homealone.jpg

I'm not really digging the new Optimus Prime look.

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Originally Posted by Bartrim

I'm not really digging the new Optimus Prime look.

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Did you see this?
I've got to admit, I too like the description of a Fist with Wheels. :D
(Mazinger Prime anyone? :o)

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Originally Posted by Hursticon

Did you see this?
I've got to admit, I too like the description of a Fist with Wheels. :D
(Mazinger Prime anyone? :o)

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Yeah I did. I prefer the WFC design.

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Originally Posted by Bartrim

Yeah I did. I prefer the WFC design.

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Ah ok, I dunno - I've just got a thing for big/bulky Robots... Stupid Japanese giant mecha contamination. :p

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Originally Posted by Hursticon

Ah ok, I dunno - I've just got a thing for big/bulky Robots... Stupid Japanese giant mecha contamination. :p

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Yeah I can completely understand the marketing behind the design and why fans would like it... just not my cup of tea.

it does seem to be more of an evolution, "over the time of the war, Prime has gradually upgraded to handle situations that he previously would have struggled with. "

that's my 2c, still won't really care unless it's released to PC.

Wow, so much debate over Grimlock. I think it would be cool to have him as a beast mode. It could well be since he didn't faeture in the main game, that he was off-world at the time, scanned the beast mode COZ IT ROOLZ and stuck with it. So many possibilities, I find people who think it's out of place strange when we are talking about large, shape shifting, living robots.:p:D

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Originally Posted by Bartrim

I'm not really digging the new Optimus Prime look.

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Me neither. Looks too chunky in the legs for a start and something else bothers me as well, but I don't know exactly what it is.. I think its the big arms, and smallish chest. The proportions look askew.

Oh well, guess I'll stick with Grimlock!!:D

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Originally Posted by Gutsman Heavy

Maybe he's not a Dinosaur but a mobile cybertronian trash compactor? It coincidently resembles a dinosaur or something...

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That'd be neat. :)

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Originally Posted by theheretic

I remember seeing dinosaur bones in some horrible CGI animated series that followed beast wars....

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Actually I thought the animation in Beast Machines was great (a lot better than Beast Wars). The story on the other hand... :p ;)

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Originally Posted by theheretic

thus cybertron must have had some firm of dinosaur on it at some stage and maybe somewhere below the surface there still is. I also remember the quintessons had monster experiments left on cybertron, so why not a dinosaur too?

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Yeah, that's why I said "or any other place which may have similar life forms" <---which could include the lower depths of Cybertron which may have Transorganics or cybernetic demons or fossilised organics there... take your pick. :) So long as they provide a feasible explanation, I'll be content.

I don't mind the look of Prime's new character model but I do have a preference for the original WFC one.

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Originally Posted by Bartrim

I'm not really digging the new Optimus Prime look.

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Me neither. It is mostly due to the BIG RED PLAIN PANNEL in middle of his chest (I prefer window looking bits).

I also hope they tone down all the part movements while he is idle, right now he looks twitchy like he can't stand still or relaxed.

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Originally Posted by Deonasis

Me neither. It is mostly due to the BIG RED PLAIN PANNEL in middle of his chest (I prefer window looking bits).

I also hope they tone down all the part movements while he is idle, right now he looks twitchy like he can't stand still or relaxed.

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Yep... pretty much agree with all that.

I hope to Primus they make more toys from this game. I loved the WFC ones but there was so little to choose from. Please Primus can I have some seekers (instead of bumblebee repaints) and a shockwave and grimlock and blaster and jazz and jetfire and if it's not too much trouble maybe a leader sized omega supreme and trypticon. Thanks

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Originally Posted by theheretic

I hope to Primus they make more toys from this game. I loved the WFC ones but there was so little to choose from. Please Primus can I have some seekers (instead of bumblebee repaints) and a shockwave and grimlock and blaster and jazz and jetfire and if it's not too much trouble maybe a leader sized omega supreme and trypticon. Thanks

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Pfft, leader sized? Gimme SUPREME sized Omega Supreme thanks. But I concur. More toys please.

In the video of High Moon's office, you can see the concept art for bigger Megs. And where has Scott Tieger (?) gone. He was the representetive/voice/main dude of all the promo stuff of WFC 1

+1 for more toys!

WOW!!!!!!!! Got this months game informer which reveals all on FOC Grimlock, his new FOC character history and gameplay. It also mentions the Combaticons (it's got Vortex's new design) and other new characters, and their specialised features (Like Jazz's grappling hook to scale landscapes). I have to say it all looks very promising!

I liked this the most though. Of Grimlock "...As he tears through Shockwave's minions, he wields a massive sword and shield. His style of gameplay is dramatically different from other characters elsewhere in the game. If he wants a ranged weapon, it comes by picking up and enemy robot and flinging it. Grimlock is also the only character that can't transform at will: each enemy he kills fuels his rage...and a roaring t-rex emerges."

And yes his t-rex alt mode breaths fire and eats Con drones! :)

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Originally Posted by RageOnTheRoads

WOW!!!!!!!! Got this months game informer which reveals all on FOC Grimlock, his new FOC character history and gameplay. It also mentions the Combaticons (it's got Vortex's new design) and other new characters, and their specialised features (Like Jazz's grappling hook to scale landscapes). I have to say it all looks very promising!

I liked this the most though. Of Grimlock "...As he tears through Shockwave's minions, he wields a massive sword and shield. His style of gameplay is dramatically different from other characters elsewhere in the game. If he wants a ranged weapon, it comes by picking up and enemy robot and flinging it. Grimlock is also the only character that can't transform at will: each enemy he kills fuels his rage...and a roaring t-rex emerges."

And yes his t-rex alt mode breaths fire and eats Con drones! :)

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Scans! - Scans! - Scans! - Scans! - Scans! :p

Here is a Teaser Trailer, courtesy of TFW2005, for Transformers: Fall of Cybertron. :eek:

Bloody hell I want this game already, it's sounding like it's making a number of progressive steps in the right directions! :D:cool:

Brought to light by TFW2005, Gameinformer.com has just posted up on their website an illustrated tour of the world that is Transformers: Fall of Cybertron. :eek:

http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/...cs/insect1.jpg

That's a great feature and it gives an explanation of Grimlock's dinosaur mode too (that might make people happy/stop complaining).

The best thing in the first War for Cybertron game was how much we saw of Cybertron as an actual planet rather than a few buildings, so I'm looking forward to exploring more of the planet in this game.

That is a real interesting explaniation for Grimlock. I love it. Sounds like it will make for some intersting gameplay.

I just read this article and it explains the Dinosaur modes for the Dinobots. See the 2nd page.

I am cool with it now as it has a logical explanation (at least by TF standards).

Also the game is sounding very interesting. They are grabbing a lot of G1 concepts (some Marvel, Cartoon with some IDW thrown in) and building their mythology based on it while still reinventing and coming up with completely new concepts.

Edit: I am yet to read anything regarding a PC release! :mad: