Is this a Knock Off? (post here for help)

When I was in the US, I would never trust a eBay seller from china (2000s) at the time because it could be fake. Especially with shoes. Unfortunately, some create US accounts but ship from china/asia.
The worse was when someone sold me a jordan xi dmp when he gave me size 11 instead of my correct size. Then suddenly disappeared from eBay and this guy was from Canada. I was forced to sell what could be a knockoff but I didn't know. So far the guy I sold it to hasn't complained yet. :D. Could be legit after all

I can understand why people may be reflexively apprehensive of Chinese toys as being illegit -- having travelled to China I found that the majority of TFs I found in stores there were fakes. It's actually real hard to find legit TFs in China! :eek: Ironically it's the reverse in Japan where most TFs are legit and finding fakes is such a rarity, there are some Japanese collectors who intentionally collect fakes because they see it as a novelty (because it's so uncommon). :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime

Ironically it's the reverse in Japan where most TFs are legit and finding fakes is such a rarity, there are some Japanese collectors who intentionally collect fakes because they see it as a novelty (because it's so uncommon). :rolleyes:

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THIS! I wasn't even able to find third party stuff in japan. I'm guessing illegitimate goods must be heavily looked down upon by collectors there, not to mention the legal repercussions of selling such things.

I found shopping for transformers in HK really difficult too, because there was probably as many fakes as there was genuine items.

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Originally Posted by Shirokaze

THIS! I wasn't even able to find third party stuff in japan. I'm guessing illegitimate goods must be heavily looked down upon by collectors there, not to mention the legal repercussions of selling such things.

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It's also because the Japanese govt does tightly enforce copyright laws. The best place to find unlicensed stuff is in specialty collectable stores, not regular stores. A lot of Japanese fans refer to 3rd party items as "Knock Offs", or sometimes "Chinese Knock Offs." fwiw I did pipe up and said that 3rd party items aren't the same as KOs. But yeah, in my experience Japanese collectors don't discriminate between KOs and 3rd party items much... it's all the same to them (re: anything unlicensed = KO).

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/SET-OF-SI...0bb71af&_uhb=1

not sure if ligit? any ideas, limited pics......

That set should be legit, as I don't think it was KO'ed.
It was released here around 1992.

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Originally Posted by griffin

That set should be legit, as I don't think it was KO'ed.
It was released here around 1992.

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excellent. got a good price on it too i think. cheers for that!!!!

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Originally Posted by lj7369

excellent. got a good price on it too i think. cheers for that!!!!

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Nice. Cant go wrong at +/-$13 a figure.

How accurate are the guides online which show the differences between knock off dinobots and real ones?
Like I'm looking at this one on ebay and while the arms look ok compared to this-
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/9...7022302501.jpg

the feet don't look ok compared to this-
http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/6...7022303161.jpg

Should I just ignore any Grimlocks that have the double marks on the feet to be safe, or are there some legit ones with the double markings?
I actually see a few that look 99% legit (like this one) the only thing that seems off is they have the two spots on the front claws (check the second picture on the second auction) as compared to one on each claw in the comparison picture.

Just checked, My classic grimlock from 1992 has 2 spots.on his hands/feet. Although the 2 screws on the single talon are further apat than the picture on the lower right hand side.
No spots on his trex arms

Never delt with a G1/reissue. Is it a KO?
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Transform...#ht_500wt_1414

That's the very nice blue leg reissue. 100% legit.

Are there any KO Protectobot Hotspots on the market??

EDIT: Whoops forgot to add. Generations one, not G1.

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Originally Posted by Ae-Evolution

Are there any KO Protectobot Hotspots on the market??

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Yes. In fact, they were widely available through Target a couple of years ago in a 'giftset' with the rest of the Protectobots.

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Originally Posted by Ae-Evolution

Are there any KO Protectobot Hotspots on the market??

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There are a ridiculous number of knockoff Hotspots. Some accurate, others not.

There was a pretty good replica giftset, which people only focussed on the packaging to identify differences... the toys could look pretty close to the originals out of the packaging, especially on ebay photos.

Haven't seen one like this before.. Bulls#!+ K.O. or not?

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/VINTAGE-8...2731ce1&_uhb=1

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Originally Posted by Slag

Haven't seen one like this before.. Bulls#!+ K.O. or not?

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/VINTAGE-8...2731ce1&_uhb=1

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KO, the rubsign's a dead giveaway for one
They've also produced another triple changer, Broadside, amongst others

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This Autobot Triple Changer was sold under the "Meta Morphs" name, with the company name Globo on the box. The packaging is almost identical to the original box, and uses the same box art, but Broadside's Autobot insignias are altered in the illustration. The toy is very similar to the original version, but its cockpit is opaque in jet mode and the toy has no Autobot symbols

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Originally Posted by Sinnertwin

KO, the rubsign's a dead giveaway for one
They've also produced another triple changer, Broadside, amongst others

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Cheers. I thought it might have been one of those oddball ones released in another country.

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Originally Posted by Slag

Cheers. I thought it might have been one of those oddball ones released in another country.

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i know what you mean. His Leozack is worth a look ;):p
"transforms from jet to robot and back again. And launch brest from the chest"

I'm wondering if there are KO's of Generations Deluxe Thunderwing? Looking for him on eBay there a few going cheap from Taiwan.

Is this legit? http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/261212580...84.m1423.l2649

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Originally Posted by DELTAprime

Is this legit? http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/261212580...84.m1423.l2649

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Of course. Nobody's going to waste their time, effort and money to make an accurate knockoff and packaging of United Scourge.

Does anyone own any of the KO dinobots? Do they still have the date stamps?. I'm guessing yes. Are there any differences between the real stamp to the KO ie. spelt wrong etc.?

Would anyone have a close-up picture of their Canadian Slag they could post.

cheers.

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Originally Posted by Slag

Does anyone own any of the KO dinobots? Do they still have the date stamps?. I'm guessing yes. Are there any differences between the real stamp to the KO ie. spelt wrong etc.?

Would anyone have a close-up picture of their Canadian Slag they could post.

cheers.

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What's a Canadian release Slag? is it the same as the US/AUS ones we got? Other than the original G1 version of slag the only other official release was the G2 version that came in silver/green/red IIRC (this version has the takara stamping removed and china is added to the hasbro stamping). Also the word slag with a auto symbol is printed somewhere on him (on the black body parts I think).

Not sure if the KO has the stamps, but here is a guide I found:

http://www.ebay.com/gds/Slag-Review-...6760342/g.html

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Originally Posted by DELTAprime

I'm wondering if there are KO's of Generations Deluxe Thunderwing? Looking for him on eBay there a few going cheap from Taiwan.

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This is legit. Its the Takara version...I had a look at his other stuff on the site, they seem to have some good prices from what I see. Might have to add to my favorites list. :D:D

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Originally Posted by Slag

Does anyone own any of the KO dinobots? Do they still have the date stamps?. I'm guessing yes. Are there any differences between the real stamp to the KO ie. spelt wrong etc.?

Would anyone have a close-up picture of their Canadian Slag they could post.

cheers.

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Some have the stamps some dont. For a slag here is two ways to ID him -

http://thumbnails101.imagebam.com/26...d266979688.jpg http://thumbnails107.imagebam.com/26...f266979692.jpg

Thanks guys. It's a good start.
Massive knob factor on my part though:o i get too excited sometimes.
time will tell..:confused:

Any markings in the back of the chest cavity? Ko or Canadian. My Orig is stamped Takara Japan as is the Diaclone (but no stamp on the leg) The Red G2- nothing in the chest..just the leg.


: or even if some could even just check to see if the Canadian version is stamped inside...

Is this legit?

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...tructicons.jpg

G1 or G2?

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Originally Posted by jazzcomp

Is this legit?

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...tructicons.jpg

G1 or G2?

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Yep, they are legit.
Late G1.
They can not combine, as Hook & Scavenger are missing their connecting tabs.

Wouldn't mind that set of Constructicons

Actually one of my favourite sets of Constructicons... not only because I think they were the first full set I managed to get my hands on, but I like them because they were (unintentionally) portrayed in the UK Marvel comic #264. Which was about the Constructicons no longer being able to merge, so were building a separate Devastator entity/robot (which was also likely to be an unintentional portrayal of the Actionmaster Devastator toy).

So even though the Constructicons didn't actually appear in the story, for me this is the set that most accurately portrays that team during this era of Transformers (just with a different colour scheme, which could be explained in some way).

Amazing how many of these are still getting around MOSC. I bought two cases of them over 10 years ago, price hasn't changed much at all since, I think it was a good time when all these cases were found because with the advent of e-bay the value of MOSC/B was realised by a lot more people.

Has there been a re-issue carded green G1 constructicons?

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Originally Posted by jazzcomp

Has there been a re-issue carded green G1 constructicons?

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Recently? Original no, KO yes.

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Originally Posted by Sinnertwin

Recently? Original no, KO yes.

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Is this fake?

They look fake. Have a look here at what G1 Constructicons look like in package http://www2.unicron.com/1985-transformers.html

Weapon bubbles shouldn't be over the logo (Bonecrusher) or character art (Scrapper)

There are no assortment numbers on the bottom front right of the cards so they are 100% Fakey McFake

Someone report seller (please)!