This is a very similar situation to the great Bumblebee shortage of '07. Ultimate Bumblebees were selling for over $300 on eBay. Even the deluxe was over $100.
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This is a very similar situation to the great Bumblebee shortage of '07. Ultimate Bumblebees were selling for over $300 on eBay. Even the deluxe was over $100.
Hard to believe there was once a Bumblebee shortage!!
It happened with the first deluxes. Hasbro only begun to churn out Bumblebees by the truck load after they realized there was a high demand for them in '07. Of course, their response was total overkill that went on for years.Quote:
Originally Posted by davieanix
Yep, that's the risk of talking about anyone that is doing something you want to complain about... you give them exposure in return, because you can't really talk to others about what they are doing without showing what they are doing. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Sharky
It is a bit of poor form rubbing it in our noses listing our site, but I don't know if the other two sites listed were making the same fuss, or were legitimately promoting his listing.
Hopefully they went to non-Australians who have to wait a couple months to get one... because an Australian should know that more are coming, even if it is with other stores later in the year. It isn't the end of the world if you don't get a specific toy immediately... it is fun and preferred, but not life-threatening.
It's just poor form of that individual that it had to come at the expense of 7 Sydney fans who could have bought one at that store last week.
(I guess the $800-ish profit was worth more than being trusted or respected by actual toy fans.)
hahaha, we need an english word for it. The german one is "backpfeifengesicht"Quote:
Originally Posted by UltimateGalvatron
I see that another 5 are on ebay from four other Australians, and two others that sold... all are about $300 or more... jumping on the band-wagon.
At least it is just people selling off one, hopefully to desperate non-Australians.
We just have to keep telling the local fans here that more are coming... if not at BigW, it will be at other Retailers here soon. There is no need to pay an "impatience tax" of $100+ if it just means waiting another week or two for more to show up here.
If you really can't wait, try to see if you can have a play with a friends until then. :p
Some might say even paying the retail is "impatience tax" with inevitable sales coming up, but I prefer to think it's showing Hasbro that yes, we want more like this.
YEAH!:D Just got the big fella today finally, apparently the "last one" at Big W Epping.
I'll keep an eye out though and if I come across any I'll scoop them up for others who haven't had any luck, to think people are paying $300+ for him upsets me.:(
Offered $50.
May Strabismus , the god of crossed eyeness guide his hand to the accept button.Quote:
Originally Posted by drifand
Real lols :)Quote:
Originally Posted by BruiseLee
I'm supposed to have one reserved at Big W in Epping and if you got the last one and I'm yet to receive a phone call then I may have missed out :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by starscream23
Wasn't joking, I really offered $50. Since if he is taking a pissed at us, he deserves nonsense.Quote:
Originally Posted by BruiseLee
Oh no really? :eek: I've been calling every morning and evening since midnight of the sale and every day they kept saying they haven't got them in yet and they refused to hold one for me, they just said they'd call once they got them in and they did. I did have my number down at my local store and they haven't got them yet so when they do i'll hold it for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by swoop
Was just looking at the listing and wondering if there is copyright infringement going on. Some of the images in the listing appear to be Hasbro created images which would possibly be in breach of eBay's policy.
Perhaps if someone was so minded a complaint could be made...
A lot of people on ebay use official product images.
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Originally Posted by BigTransformerTrev
I just hope that no one here bought from him. I'd hate to think that our annoyance/anger is resulting in profit for him. :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by BruiseLee
I also hope that if he is/was a member, that his membership was cancelled.
reject offer. done. The seller still has the items listed & his care factor is still 0.Quote:
Originally Posted by drifand
Well he took off the snide remark but has upped his price now to $350...
I hope that his sales figures match this number ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sinnertwin
He has 3 left so it already doesn't match.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime
Supply and demand - ??? keep telling yourself that. :rolleyes: I guess this is the same reasoning from the Sydney house market :mad:
The difference being that people need housing. Toys aren't a life necessity, people can wait for restocks. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by jazzcomp
Yeah, but I was looking at it from a profit point of view and not the need of the buyers.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime
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Originally Posted by jazzcomp
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Originally Posted by jazzcomp
This is a textbook example of supply and demand. Supply is low and demand is high. With high demand comes a higher price. Once supply is high, demand will decrease and so he will be unable to charge $350.
Personally I don't see the big deal. If people want to pay an impatience tax, then they are free to. Some people seem to be getting quite worked up over this (both here and onTCCA). Every time it's pointed out that Devastator will be released by other retailers soon, there is a post almost immediately after it going "But will it? HOW DO YOU KNOW???? What if it's not? OMG Big W had the whole world's supply of Devastators AND NOW THEYRE ALL GONE!! NOOOOOOOOOOO!!"
Or something to that effect.
Perspective people.
Blasphemy and sacrilege. People need toys, and we only need housing to store them. Who here among us can honestly say they haven't spent money for food, clothing or medicine on toy robots? 😇Quote:
Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime
Yes, people are free to pay whatever. It still doesn't make it right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trent
We can also do this, right? We can be a-holes and simulate the effect of supply is low by buying multiples and since the demand is high, we can also make profit from it. But we don't. :cool:
We don't want to support scalpers even if others do. But we also don't want to create a norm that this price is still acceptable to pay. Otherwise, the RRP may rise as well. I think this is something that Australia has accepted as perfectly normal or acceptable. We have higher wages so everything is higher and market size is smaller and whatever justification we believe makes it right to be expensive.
It's creating an environment of overvalue and unaffordability. Sure it's ok for those that can afford it. But what about those who can't?
I guess the outrage comes from those that want to keep this toys affordable instead of going the way of some toys that are only for the rich.
I remember the comment of Gok to a salesperson that was surprised that adults are buying devy. She had the expectation that $200 toy is normal for a kid to have :eek: instead of an Adult collector who can afford it. :o
this is scalping plain and simple, there should be an easy way to report the listing on eBay in the same manner that ticket scalpers can be reported.
His arrogance is a bit much calling out both OTCA and the facebook Collector club.
it's unfortunate that people are willing to pay his prices and that he's making a profit, I'm more concerned about parents that aren't plugged in to the community enough to know there are more coming out but they are aware enough that their child really wants this so they are willing to fork out the cash to make sure that Jr. gets a Devastator for a birthday or Christmas. these people might actually forego food (for themselves) to make sure they can afford a present for their child.
The only reason to buy multiples and sell like this is for profit at others expense, I'm tempted to go to the Penrith fair just to call this guy out in front of all the other tables and customers.
I might make a few offers starting at $10 and going up in increments of $10. If 100 people did this or asked inane questions he would have to refuse or at least check to make sure a question wasn't legit, it would make his listing more trouble for him to manage than he expected.
at the end of the day it is a supply and demand scenario and in a couple months he won't be able to sell above retail as supply will have increased but at the moment he's taking advantage of people. it's selfish and as others have mentioned immoral.
Like I said is the fact he bought 7 is what pisses people off.
If he does it quietly I think people would ignore.
I don't think buying 7 of them really made that big a difference.
Big W was supposed to get 1000 of these.
He bought 0.7% of the supply...is that really worth getting upset over?
The only people affected are those that would have bought from the shop he cleaned out.
to them, we're a pretty small market. The reason places like Big W, Target, Myer etc have their toy sales around now is that parents find it a lot more affordable to layby Christmas presents now and pay it off over 6mths, as the min repayment for Big W is $5 per fortnight - vs potentially $1000 or more in one hit in December if you've got 2-3 kids.Quote:
Originally Posted by jazzcomp
Working a midnight opening for Kmart one year, customers would be streaming in, loading up with toys, games consoles and games, then going straight to layby. One customer I helped out in the electronics section at about 1am didn't leave the store until 4:30am as the layby queue was that long. The coffee shop owner made a killing by coming in to take orders, going back, making the coffee, bringing it in and taking new orders all over again.
But that's all a little off-topic now.
I guess so, but then there are guys you hear from here that went from one BigW to another and couldn't find any, making numerous calls, reserving and not being called. I guess I feel for them too. Instead of lucky me (I have one) and sucks to be you buying from this scalper. This is the reason why others here have offered to buy extra for fellow collectors.Quote:
Originally Posted by Demonac
If you think about stocks and having gain, this is so much easier right. :) Just have a few friends buy out some stores and put it on ebay.
It does, you would not like it if it was exclusively to bigw.Quote:
Originally Posted by Demonac
Just like soundwave mp. 7 is a big amount.
I got zero though I am not panicking is just disappointed to see someone grabbed 7 to sell. Mind you he would have one for himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by jazzcomp
So 8!
A lot of the times I have called, the person answering knows crap all so it is hard to rely on the accuracy of what he/she says. You need to rely on places like this site from people who have visited the store to know.Quote:
Originally Posted by jazzcomp
That's at least 3 OTCA members that I know of and even if I wasn't one of the 3 it's still 3 too many of my online pals for my liking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Demonac
I'll be waiting for the next release, which is cool cos I cant afford him right now anyway :(
Though he has hit the States now, so I feel bad for the people that bought from.
http://www.toyark.com/look-what-i-ju...-1737-page894/
It's just occurred to me that it would be actually CHEAPER - even with postage - to pre-order a TakaraTOMY Unite Warriors Devastator than pay scalper's prices for a Hasbro CW Devastator! :eek: IMO, if you're willing to pay above RRP for Devastator, you might as well get the Japanese version.
For some reason, I have always seen Scalpers able to sell their stuff at 300%+ mark ups despite a much cheaper alternative existing. The alternative is also often easy to find by a simple google search or even within Ebay itself!Quote:
Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime
I don't understand it personally.
Especially if you going to wait till DecemberQuote:
Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime