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someone has edited the G1 Swerve page, it no longer says that he appeared in 'Forever is a long time coming' he did though in the race scene
I cannot find evidence of that line ever existing in the article according to it's history, but I'll edit the page to say he participated in a race blah blah during blah's experiments.
Done, also added him to the character infobox for the episode's article.
The page also makes no mention of reissue Swerve's name variation （ウエーブ） either. The Anglonisation of his Japanese is also incorrect - his name is Wave （ウェーブ） not "Weave" （which would be ウィーブ） or "Werve" （which would be ワーブ） (-_-)
To be honest I actually use Wikipedia more than TF Wiki when it comes to looking up information on Transformers. I (personally) find the Wikipedia articles more informative without the needless humour (the humour on TF Wiki seems to try to hard, the frequent contributors there try to make everything humorous and in my opinion it gives the site a "crude" and "amateur" feel).
Having said that my knowledge of Transformers lore is hardly comprehensive so TF Wiki may have more reliable information...
In my opinion the Wikipedia's coverage of Transformers is amateurish by comparison. So what if the TF Wiki has fun? We go into depth and detail.
Besides, I don't like how the Wikipedia is just used to post rumours, leaked photos or leaked toys.
Then fix it, and I will back you up if somebody attempts to revert it (I dunno, by saying "He's Japanese" or something).Quote:
Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime
Done.
I speak Japanese fluently (I went to uni in Japan) and I do teach it for a living. I've also interacted with the Japanese TF fandom, my Japanese board name is 孫コンボイ (Son Convoy) :)Quote:
Originally Posted by FFN
*sigh* Oh look, my edit's been undone (incorrect information which I deleted has been undeleted).
Umm... no. Both ウェーブ (wee-bu) and ウエーブ (uee-bu) transliterate as "wave," although ウェーブ (wee-bu) is a better transliteration.Quote:
Japanese name: Weave/Werve (ウェーブ, wee-bu), later Wave (ウエーブ, u-ee-bu)
As I said before;the transliteration of "Weave" would be ウィーブ (Wii-bu) and the transliteration of "Werve" would be ワーブ (waa-bu), so ウェーブ (wee-bu) is not Weave or Werve.
I'm not going to edit that page anymore... as I said before, I'm thoroughly sick of my edits being undone for no apparent reason. (-_-) I'm just gonna go back to avoiding TFwiki.
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P.S.: if you need proof that ウェーブ (ueebu) is "Wave" then here:
レーザーウェーブ (G1 Laserwave)
レーザーウェーブ (Super Link Laserwave)
レーザーウェーブ (Binaltech Laserwave)
Also refer to pp.012, 016, 039, 043, 055, 060, 117 and 128 of Transformers Generations Deluxe for Japanese spellings of Laserwave, Wave and Waver.
TakaraTOMY's Encore Minibots page also cites the original ウェーブ (wee-bu) spelling but the Encore packaging uses ウエーブ (uee-bu) (image)
Nevermore has apparently fixed it. I dunno, but I don't really care either way.
I used TF wikia actively for the first time last night. I was looking for a bit more info on Tread Bolt and the other Universe 2.0 "Micromaster" repaints and found it to be useful while being fun. I found it to be very useful but w/out being very anal.
TF Wiki and TF Wikia are two different sites :) We left Wikia in protest of their advertising policies (putting ads inside of articles, at first for all users, but then changed to logged-out/no account users due to complaints).Quote:
Originally Posted by STL
Glad to see you're enjoying it.
Sorry! I get confused on all those differences. I just appreciate having a good place to find information that keeps in fun.Quote:
Originally Posted by FFN
"Judean People's Front!" :DQuote:
Originally Posted by FFN
lol! (^0^)
I prefer to think of us as the place that actually updates content. Last I checked, the TF Wikia was turning into the Wikipedia (though with the benefit of our edits up to mid-September, 2008.)
Wikia was scared Pat Lee would sue them after an anonymous IP made a "legal threat", so they edited down his article. At least it's not as bad as what the Wikipedia did - *THOSE* guys absolved Lee of all of Dreamwave's dirty deeds.
Wikipedia is full of crap.
Bizarrely, I just learned something new about myself on TFWiki. I invented Gold Plastic Syndrome. That's right - all of you with broken Black Zaraks and G2 Slingshots... it was me! Bwahahaha! (Well, not really.)
(From TFWiki): "The earliest use of the term that can be found in the alt.toys.transformers archives dates to September 2002 in a post by user Sky Shadow".
And this was my post back in 2002:
"I have a MOC Pretender Monster Slog sitting on my desk, just begging me to open him.
However, if Slogs suffer from Gold Plastic Syndrome (i.e. the sort of brittleness that will make me want to cry) then I'd rather not put myself through that sort of torment.
So if anyone has any experience with GPS Slogs (or Bristlebacks, for that matter) could you please let me know? Maybe it's time we came up with a comprehensive list of diseased GPS Transformers.
I know about Black Zarak, Pretender Roadblock and G2 Slingshot. Who else needs to be quarantined?"
You broke my Slog and Bristleback you pr1ck! :p jkz
You need one of those "I'm Famous On The Internet" T-shirts now. :)
i dont think G2 Slingshots should be in the list
mine is super fine and its 2nd hand
maybe gold plastic syndrome doesn't exist, maybe its a ploy to jack the prices of certain toys up:eek:
how come Tf wiki doesn't have anything written on Staxx? he's so cool
and claims that in the episode "The Autobot Run" its a continuity error that Shockwave turns up.
I mean, Megatrons brilliant planned almost worked this time. The only reason he didn't succeed is because he took all day just to kill the Autobots in some fancy crusher device, Shockwave probably showed up to see an end to the great optimus prime and others.
i say it aint an error
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Staxx
He hasn't appeared in any fiction, to my knowledge, so all we have is a toy description.
Noticed that the following page was missing two toys.
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Optimus_Prime_%28Movie%29_toys
1. TransScanning OP toy.
2. The repaint of the "Spychanger" toy - a Japanese movie DVD pre-order/purchase bonus. This toy was not packaged with the DVD but was individually bagged in a small clear plastic bag with its instructions sheet. It was meant as a pre-order exclusive of the DVD, but many retail stores had enough stock of the toy on the first day to hand out to buyers who didn't pre-order their DVD.
Noticed on the Blitzwing page:
1) "Blitzwing's earliest Diaclone sculpt had him with a somewhat odd faceless head." - First of all, that variant head isn't truly faceless. COBRA's Vipers, BATs and Cobra Commander's faceplates are faceless... this isn't a humanlike face (i.e.: it's devoid of a mouth, nose and paired eyes) but it's still a face - as much as Roadbuster's face is a face (it's much more of a face than what Shockwave and Whirl have!). Secondly, I'd like to see evidence that early Diaclone Triple Changer Jet Type toys actually had that early concept face or if it was only seen in conceptual art. There's no reference to verify this claim on the page and it's also not supported by the Triple Changer Jet Type page on Diaclone.net (here) nor any mention of it on the Pre-Transformers section of the Complete Variants Page (here).
2) Where it says "Blitzwing's Tech-Spec Bio has a typographical error" I think the word "anomaly" would be better suited. The evidence there doesn't seem to support that the bio & tech specs were necessarily in error... it probably was, but the fact is that the bio & tech specs has effectively made it official (much like the whole Sideswipe-Sunstreaker switcheroonie thing).
3) It says, "The opening sequence of Season 3 features a large row of identical tanks that look suspiciously just like Bliztwing's tank mode, before zooming in on the barrel of one particular tank."
...yeah... go Bliztwing! :p Okay, this is probably a typo and I think I can edit this without anyone going against me and changing it back - but I would like points 1 and 2 examined please.
Why don't you sign up for a proper account and discuss this at the wiki? Posting it here seems like you're asking FFN to do your dirty work for you.
I put up a {{fact}} (citation needed}} on the first point. Second point I left alone, since it's quite possibly a typographical error if the other similarly written bios of the time give him "commando" as his function. On the third point, I don't know what your issue is :confused:
I write quite a lot of the toy stuff on the wiki. I keep forgetting about the Trans-Scanning thing because it's so obscure and hardly anybody owns it. Same goes for the DVD Spy Changer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyle
Mostly I add stuff when there are stock photos I can use, and unfortuantely, Takara almost never releases stock photos in the quantity and resolution that Hasbro does. They're almost always small, blurry, with possibly some giant watermark over the top of them.
...I'm not sure if I want to get into that level of dedication with the TF wiki considering my opinions about it on the whole.Quote:
Originally Posted by jaydisc
If FFN doesn't like being a "go-between" then I'll happily stop referring issues to him and just continue to keep my yap shut about the many questionable points I find on TFwiki. It's up to you FFN, if you don't feel comfortable about it then I'll stop referring things here.Quote:
Originally Posted by jaydisc
That's the point, it's possibly a typographical error. I think it probably is - but until you know for sure I think it's best to word it more factually, even if you were to say "probable typographical error." I'm quite sure it is an error but yeah... until you have conclusive proof I would avoid making such conclusively sweeping statements like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by FFN
Dude, the TFwiki has a lot of stuff that's equally if not more obscure than these toys. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by FFN
Trans-Scanning Protoform Optimus Prime pics and hereQuote:
Originally Posted by FFN
Trans-Scanning Earth Mode Optimus Prime Pics
DVD Spychanger Optimus Prime pics
I'm sure you can use those images so long as you credit the original sources and provide a hyper-link to those pages or you could message/email those admins directly and ask for permission. :)
Added probable to Blitzwing's article trivia. Hmm. Never noticed we didn't link tech spec and bio to their respective articles there.
I only know of snakas being conversant in english, and I'm somewhat intimidated by him since (from what I heard) he's a fairly well-known Japanese fan :o
I should really update Prime's toy page, in particular adding our latest gimmick: Tech spec graphs onto the bottom of the toy pics if that toy has a tech spec and the numbers are available. Oy, I am going to curse Revenge of the Fallen's toyline.
SO MANY TOYS TO ADD.
Just a quick question, what is the TF wiki's stance on things like City Commander, Coronation set, etc. I can't find them on the wiki, is this because they are not official, or just because no-one has gotten around to adding them... Just wondering
Does anybody know what DVD Spychanger Prime is officially called?
The TF Wiki does not deal with unofficial products. We don't even acknowledge leaked or unofficial news/ information. Stuff basically has to come from Hasbro/Takara, their affiliates, partners and licensees.Quote:
Originally Posted by jacksplatt11
As a consequence we're one of the worst sources of information on Revenge of the Fallen :D
There are exceptions, of course, and we do still put up information that was released by an official source, but then retracted by the order of higher sources, such as IDW confirming certain things about Revenge of the Fallen and Michael Bay/Paramount ordering the removal of that info).
That's all I have ever seen it called as. But you'd need to see if anyone saw it on an official TakaraTomy website or publication, and see if it was given a specific name, or just that 'generic' name.Quote:
Originally Posted by FFN
Maybe ask Kyle, as I think it was one of his HK friends who got me mine, so would need to know what it was called.
The web site is called Autobase Aichi and the admin's name is Nakashima. I never knew he could communicate in English though. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by FFN
"Optimus Prime" (オプティマスプライム). All the movie Transformers keep their Anglophone names in the Japanese dub of the movie and all related toys and merchandise (so Jazz is called Jazz not Meister and Bumblebee isn't called Bumble).Quote:
Originally Posted by FFN
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Originally Posted by jaydisc
Moderation Note:Quote:
Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime
I tend to agree with Jaydisc here. The TF Wiki has a discussion page for every article. You don't even need to sign in to post a query about content in their discussion pages.
This board should not be used to criticise particular points of content on another website, especially when that website already allows any body to question or discuss the content.
The other option you have is to PM FFN if you like with these comments, but posting them on the TF Wiki's discussion pages would be the better option.
A friend of both me and heero wanted one for himself and bought a bulk lot from a Japanese dealer to save on shipping. You got his very last one. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by griffin
I on the other hand already picked one up (the one you saw in the May meet) while I was in Tokyo on the release date of the DVD from a HMV.
FFN, I have both the promotional and instruction sheet in front of me.
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/e...w/DSC00282.jpg
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/e...w/DSC00284.jpg
On the promotional (an official printed handout I picked up from the HMV), the toy was labelled as "Optimus Prime Figure (not for sale item)" (translated) with an additional "bubble" that reads "DVD & HD DVD advance pre-order special bonus" (translated). I think in context the "advance" simply means "early bird", "first come first served" or "while stock lasts".
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/e...w/DSC00285.jpg
On the actual instruction sheet, it reads "TRANSFORMERS, DVD advance pre-order special bonus, (not for sale item), Optimus Prime, Autobot" (translated).
I can also take photos of the actual toys (this and the Trans Scanning OP), if you need additional photos. :)
"TRANSFORMERS, DVD advance pre-order special bonus, (not for sale item), Optimus Prime, Autobot" - That is one big name for one small toy...
It'll make for a big wiki link if they use the entire name as the link. Or maybe it'll be shortened to something like 'Pre-order DVD Optimus Prime'.
It's compensatingQuote:
Originally Posted by griffin
I would just call it "DVD preorder bonus figure". :)
The name of the actual toy is just "Optimus Prime" - the rest of that are descriptors provided in the material cited by Kyle. It's like saying "Transformers 2005 Convention Deathsaurus BotCon Figure" (which is the descriptor I found on the OTFCC front page) - the name of the toy is just "Deathsaurus" but they're obviously using those other words as a descriptor. It's not the same as say "Decepticon Frenzy" or "Autobot Ratchet" where those are the actual names of the toys and not mere descriptors attached onto names.Quote:
Originally Posted by griffin
Thanks chaps. I stuck him under "Other toys" since he didn't have any sort of official subline.
He has no Japanese ID number right?Quote:
* Optimus Prime (Spychanger, 2007)
This toy is a redeco of Robots In Disguise Spychanger Scourge, painted to resemble Movie Optimus Prime. Of note is the tampographed detailing on his chest resembling Movie Prime's distinctive chest design. He was only available exclusively in Japan with a pre-order for the Transformers DVD and HD-DVD.
My apologies for the unfinished state of the Movie Prime toy page. Because we do the wiki as a hobby, we often do things when we feel like it. After all, the easiest way to lose interest is to treat this like a job and try to push on beyond your levels of interest.
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Originally Posted by jaydisc
Naw, I don't mind too much. At least Gok alerts me to problems I wouldn't otherwise know about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulbot
Thanks FFN. He has no Japanese ID number. And no need for any apology since you guys do the wiki as a hobby. I was under the impression that the page was trying to be as complete as it could be. As a fan I noticed the missing toys and just wanted to point out or help if I could. NEVER meant to "order" you around or treat it as your job. Never any rush. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by FFN
Thanks for reminding me about them. I totally forgot about the Trans-Scanning and DVD Spychanger.
I was just looking at the old Wikia Teletraan 1 wiki and was both amused and sad at how unprofessional it was becoming, especially the bad, low-resolution pictures being uploaded without descriptions, Wikipedia-style.
Also amused that evidently the new staff there (well, one guy) decided to ditch our officially-confirmed news only policy, and, like the Wikipedia, is reporting ROTF information from unofficial sources.
Yeah, I'm petty.
FFN, what's the deal with the "old" site, anyway? Was there like a split or something?