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Originally Posted by TheFallen
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Originally Posted by TheFallen
I don't know if anyone has an answer but i'd like to hear opinions... I wondered the other day why MOTUC molds don't seem to suffer from mold degradation but Transformers sometimes do?
Is it just that they're not produced in as a great a number as Transformers even when you factor in the extensive re-use of parts between characters? Or is it something to do with the plastic type perhaps.
It's possible that for every part, they have several mold copies. I am personally somewhat skeptical about the difficulty of reproducing new quality molds since the 3rd parties and KOers seem to do it so easily on very limited budgets and now you can see Mattel doing it.Quote:
Originally Posted by kurdt_the_goat
I think that it's difficult for Hasbro for whatever administrative reason they have but not that difficult to actually do it reality or it could just be BS from them which several fans now popularly believe.
in my opinion.... the parts they would cast molds for in the MOTUC for MAttel are rather simple 1 -3 pieces which as kup has mentioned I suspect as well has several molds pre made already since it is simple, where as if you look at a transformer leg, there could be a lot of pieces involved. Not to mention for bigger pieces (Voyager above) there would be joint pieces and wotnot inside the legs piece alone which would all have several molds, if just one mold of this several molds to make a leg degrades then the rest would be affected, and upkeep I guess would be costly if you have to remold a small piece all the time since each mold might be degrading at different times..... or his could all be just BS from Hasbro.:p:p
I started watching She-ra this morning, from the first episode of course. I saw a couple of eps as a kid but didn't bother that much because it was a girl's show.
However after watching the first 2 today, and seeing the incusion of He-man to link it all together, I came to the conclusion that it isn't that much of a girl's show.
So I ask the question, Who is the demographic for this cartoon?
Obviously I was the right age for He-man at the time, as I watched it and liked it, but She-Ra didn't do it for me, yet the show seemed to be a version of he-man, but with a majority female characters. I wouldn't think girls would be all that interested in watching it just Because it had femme leads.
So who was the intended audience. and as a semi-second question, did the She-Ra toys sell well?
That's why the She-Ra toys failed, because they were aimed at the Barbie demographic, but the cartoon was still too 'boyish' with its similarities to HeMan. The HeMan cartoon was very tame by today's standards, so the content of the SheRa cartoon couldn't be any less violent... which would interest HeMan viewers, but none of the 'SheRa packaged' toys interested boys. The funny thing though, was that the Villains (The Horde) were all released in the HeMan toyline... which meant boys would have to watch the SheRa cartoon to know and buy those toys.
It was all such a mess, and cost Mattel a fair bit promoting the wrong sort of toys to the wrong demographics, at the expense of the HeMan cartoon (which looks to have been suspended in favour of the SheRa cartoon), and after a season and a half, both cartoons were axed.
The DVDs talk about this a bit if I recall... the resulting failure of the SheRa cartoon killed off the HeMan cartoon.
Oh, I see. So She-ra was the death of He-man. I remember the villains in the heman line, I ended up with a Horde trooper and thought that Hordak was another enemy faction for He-man. (like Skeletor, Snakemen and Horde). I wondered why Hordak was She-Ras enemy as well:pQuote:
Originally Posted by griffin
Thanks:D
Mattel sold $53,000,000 of Princess Of Power toys in 1985, more than He-Man made in its first year. And that doesn't even count the sales of Horde toys, which were also supported by the She-Ra cartoon. There were a lot of girls watching He-Man, which was the rationale for the spin-off.Quote:
Originally Posted by griffin
She-Ra and He-Man ran concurrently for a good sixty episodes in 1985 and then in 1986 She-Ra ran for an extra half-a-season after He-Man was axed.Quote:
Originally Posted by griffin
No, she/it wasn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetsuwan Convoy
Really? The commentaries & interviews on some of the DVD boxsets implied that She-Ra was a failed attempt at getting girls into Action Figures (based on the success of the boys line), and that HeMan was effectively killed off by it as well.
If what Sky Shadow says is true, than I concede to his correct information.
I think that - as we know with the people who worked on Transformers and were then as asked them to recount what happened twenty years later - the DVD commentaries are full of faded memories and personal bias. What "killed off" He-Man wasn't She-Ra at all. Everyone on this board should know what killed He-Man. (Clue: It's the second word in the acronym OTCA. :p)Quote:
Originally Posted by griffin
Wow, thats interesting right there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sky Shadow
Girls must like the muscles hey?:D
Sky Shadow is correct, She-Ra ran for a pretty decent length given the larger than average amount of episodes in the 1st season and the toy line was fairly successful. There are a good amount of POP toys in the after market signifying that they sold reasonably well back in the day.
Not really. He-Man had a strong female cast. They weren't archetyped into the typical 'damsel in distress' role and treated no different to the male cast while still maintaining their femininity - Teela, The Sorceress and Evil-Lyn were all 'core' characters and in a position of power. This is probably what attracted girls to watch the cartoon as those female leads were pretty prominent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetsuwan Convoy
When it came to She-Ra, the same formula was used and the cartoon was very successful with both girls and boys despite the cast leaning more to female characters. Aside from still having a lot of action/adventure elements it also had much better written episodes than He-Man which IMO stand up better to the test of time and more watchable for an adult.
I have almost finished watching the first season of She-Ra, It's massive with over 60 episodes. There is a good amount of '80s' goofiness but a lot of the stories are entertaining and smartly written enough to hold appeal. It is also no where near as repetitive as He-Man with much better animation.
I notice that Larry DiTillo and Bob Forward seem to do a fair bit of writing for She-Ra. Omoshiroi!
Indeed and the lessons they learnt with He-Man and She-Ra, with regards to story writing, ended up creating the best written TF cartoon show to date. ;):cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetsuwan Convoy
It's funny how in a lot of these 80's toons the female villains are often the only competent ones, at least this seems to be the case in He-Man, She-Ra MASK and Visionaries.Quote:
Originally Posted by kup
True with the exception of Catra and Scorpia, they were a bit dumb, specially the latter but still more competent than the men. However all the other Horde women were pretty smart, much smarter than the men or Hordak himself such as Shadow Weaver and Octavia.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord_Zed
What's up with Hordak's Arm? Sometimes it's a robo claw and others it a proper arm. Is that just and animation mistake or can he change it at will?
Also on the subject of Hordak, is he a robot or something as his morphing arm blaster doohicky seems cool, as does his ability to change into a badly flown rocket. Are his morph skills limited to certain forms?
Quite enjoying She-ra. The 80's sound effects that seemed to show up in a lot of cartoons of that era are so cool!
Hordak is not really a robot but he does have the power to 'morph' his arm and full body into weapons and vehicles like the rocket.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetsuwan Convoy
Unlike the comics, toy bios and the 200X cartoon, Hordak in the She-Ra cartoon is more 'technological' than magical. Ironically enough, the cartoon Hordak seems to hate magic despite most other mediums portraying him as a bad ass evil sorcerer.
Also be prepared to cringe a little when they refer to 'Horde Prime' (stupidest concept ever).
Despite those silly things, She-Ra is still a superb 80s cartoon.
Hordak can turn his arm into various cannons and melee weapons and turn himself into a rocket, tank, four-armed spinning top, four-legged spider, etc. His second and third toys respectively had various arm attachments and a buzzsaw that came out of his chest. There was no canonical limit to his transformations except whatever suited the writers' whims.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetsuwan Convoy
The same went for Hordak's sidekick Imp:
http://www.he-man.org/cartoon/feature.php?id=50&fid=54
And She-Ra's Power Sword, which (somewhat ridiculously) could become a shield, lasso, rope, icemaker, helmet, parachute, telescope, pole, bola, chain, staff, racket, boomerang, blanket, glider, net, ladder, torch, harpoon, flame, smokescreen, bow, digger, magnet (and line), battering ram, grappling hook, bat, lightning rod, discus and handcuffs.
http://www.darah.com/she-ra/usrg/epi...to/swordto.asp
Would this constitute as an improvement?
Before (out of package):
http://i54.tinypic.com/2mwi595.jpg
After some light improvements:
http://kupscigar.com/collection2011/faceless.JPG
The attempt was to get him closer to his proper 200X character model:
http://www.toyark.com/news/attach/2/...1278017801.jpg
Well, it certainly looks more like the cartoon version, so good job there. But personally I think he looks better with legs.Quote:
Originally Posted by kup
So with all these MOTUC announcement from SDCC, I have to ask..
Who is Draego Man, Icarius and Fearless Photog (who I actually really like the look of)?
Why is there so much happening in Novemeber? So many good games and toys. ee gads. (rhetorical question);)
Draego man is an original character created by Four Horsemen studios (who do all the MOTUC stuff amongst other toy lines). There was some suggestion on he-man.org that it might be an homage to a he-man knock-off line of toys called Galaxy Warriors
Icarius is a character otherwise called Flipshot from The New Adventures of He-man cartoon, a relaunch/attempt at getting back the original popularity of He-man from 1990. I only knew of him from skimming the list of New Adventures vintage toys on he-man.org, whilst trying to see which ones i'd like to see updated in MOTUC. I didn't think much of the original design, 4H have really done an excellent job updating him! I did kinda want Hydron though! :p
Fearless Photog is a character designed by a kid called Nathan Bitner, winner of a "design a character" competition in 1986. Part of the prize was getting the figure created, but until now it was just a broken promise!
I didn't know half that stuff myself till the other week, i'm becoming a motu-enclopedia thanks to he-man.org and wiki grayskull! And of course google :)
I'm not sure, but i think November is busy because last year, Christmas post delays frustrated lots of ppl, myself included (waiting for He-man & Battle Cat). November releases should arrive in time for everyone, not just people in the US. Doesn't help Demo man in December though! :(
Thanks for the info. I was wondering about that Photog guy.
Did that kid actually get the $100,000 scholarship? That's one hell of a price from creating a toy character, specially back in the 80s!Quote:
Nathan was awarded a scholarship for 100,000 dollars, plus a five-day trip to Disneyland
What contact details are avalable to contact mattel? I tried emailing them some suggestions into making the subscription more friendly towards non-US citizens :D and got told I had to telephone Mattel directly... :rolleyes:
I think that they just gave you an answer right there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetsuwan Convoy
I suspect as well, but I dont wanna go tto that much effort. Global economy my ass:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by kup
I want to buy a Pollypocket She-Ra set from SDCC. Is that bad? :o
Probably, but you just reminded me that I want one too. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by kup
Damn it! I forgot about the sale..I guess that's a good thing :o
My Man-E-Faces and Megator are shipping (squee!) I haven't been excited about a MOTU release in months (until now). Have they really managed to not have MEF's 'secret accessory' leaked yet? If so, I'm truly impressed.
If anyone is getting a sub and doesn't want Shadow Weaver, please let me know. I am interested to buy.
LOL, You and everybody else Kup.;)Quote:
Originally Posted by kup
I know..I just thought it was worth a shot :oQuote:
Originally Posted by Tetsuwan Convoy
Heehee, yeah, nice try ;)
If I'm going to do the monthly sale with this stuff, what day of the month is it & what time? I can't be blown with the sub, I only only certain figures.
It's usually the 15th of the month but sometimes different, like this month it was the 17th so it fell on a Monday i believe.
Best thing to do is check their news page. Scroll a bit and you can see the post relating to October's sale, and they have a link to send you reminders.
The time is always 9am PST so you can use time and date's los angeles link to check what time it'll be for you.
Hey guys,
Is there a way to fix MOTUC ankle joints?
My MOTUC He-Man has the ankles of a 9 month old and is constantly spear tackling Goro from the back, onto my desk from their pedestal; Is there a none abrasive, easy way of rectifying this? :o
My MOTUC Skeletor is great, he's held his pose and balance without issue since I popped him up with the other 2 - Evidently it's the Adam coming out in He-Man I guess. :rolleyes::p
The design is flawed in the sense that the warmer it is the looser the toys become. You'll notice that the issue is less apparent during the colder months or days.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hursticon
One way to fix it is to put the foot in boiling water (right out of the kettle) for 10 seconds and then squeeze the joint as tight as you can (not with your nail of course). While you are squeezing it, put it under cold water for about 5 seconds and the joint should be tighter now.
This is of course just a temporary fix as the rubbery nature of the plastic will cause it to soften up again during the warmer days.
There might be some helpful hints in this article Hursty-
http://www.he-man.org/forums/boards/...fix-them/page7
OR you could always buy a Battle-cat for He-man to sit on, fix the problem that way? :D:D:D