i think getting cut in half and left in the massive energon explosion is the end for cliffjumper and would be very suprised if he make another appearence.
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i think getting cut in half and left in the massive energon explosion is the end for cliffjumper and would be very suprised if he make another appearence.
It was just a flesh wound ;) :pQuote:
Originally Posted by The_Damned
You are too right. I studied Animation and sometimes still do it on the side (I work in a TV station for goodness sake) and I know, its the work of the animators that anything gets done.Quote:
Originally Posted by SMHFConvoy
Sure, have the latest 3D program, a great server for rendering and a great workstation helps but its always the animator that has to get it done.
That's basically the excuse they used in Beast Wars when they 'permanently' killed off a character at the end of a season only to have fans or Hasbro demand that they make him come back the next.Quote:
Originally Posted by 5FDP
This resulted in 'It was only a flesh wound' brush offs after the character was blown up, disintegrated or quartered suggesting a permanent dismissal the season before.
Naturally the above doesn't apply to Waspinator.
Liked today's episode. Atmosphere in the Decepticon ship and that canyon was great.
Yep, would have to agree with you there dude. ;):)Quote:
Originally Posted by FFN
My concerns though?
1. Soundwave = Mute. :mad:
2. Waves and Waves of undead drones that all look the same. :(
3. Not being able to wait until February to see the 6th and subsequent episodes! :p:D
Oh and for those who were frightened by Cliffjumper's death scene, you're not going to like how a Decepticon drone dies in this one. :rolleyes:
Just watched episode 3. Humans are starting to annoy me and Bulkhead has some animated traits but overall I am still enjoying it alot more then I thought I would.
Ratchet is gold. (but not in an actual metal or colour sense).
Turns out he is purely a technician in this series too, not a soldier, a nice trait to steal from Animated.
The drones are anything but cannon fodder, Starscream is nice and Saturday morning cartoon evil, while Megatron looks to be a much more solid and wholesome evil. :D
Soundwave is mute.
Prime is looking up, nice and dark to begin the series, wonder where they can move to from here for the rest of the season?
Miko's annoying but amusing at the same time. I liked "HOLD HIM STILL".
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Originally Posted by Bartrim
Hmmm... this show isn't really for kiddies is it?!
I am enjoying this series. It isn't really in tune with Hasbro's reboot though is it? While it does take elements from WfC... its not really in-sync with it.
Watched the 3rd ep... and have to say, I liked it. Sure people talk about the annoying humans and for some part, they are but it also gives a chance to show the differences between humans and their visitors, the Autobots.
I agree that this show doesn't seem to be aimed towards kids too much but really, in Japan, the kids watch death happen to characters in their anime too and its usually in the same time slot. Kudos to the writers to not being afraid to push the envelope for American cartoons.
I eagerly await ep 4. :)
^^This!^^Quote:
Originally Posted by gekisou
Very well put Gekisou. :D:cool:
It is quite in sync with the Exodus book though.Quote:
Originally Posted by gekisou
Just watched ep 3. Noice! Megatron in his little bits so far has been pretty creepy and leading on tot he crazy part I think when he started hearing the voices of Unicron. I dig the way the drones are just as tough as your usual Decepticon. How long was Bulkhead wailing on that one? No single hero charging in to save the day.
Starscream , I am beginning to like more and more. Torturing humans for a start is something that hasn't happend for a while!
Aside from the death, it has some interesting themes going on. I think it was ep 2 when Ratchet expressed his concern about protecting the humans to the detriment of the (possibly last as far as they know) 5 Autobots. Some possible dis-satisfction withing ranks.
Now I am beginning to find the music a bit much, especially in the helicopter bit with Fowler when he was gettin attacked. It is in theme with the movie, but seems excessive for the cartoon.
Just wish there were some better quality torrents about for it. I can handle larger than 180 meg. Give me good quality please.... I think that has been the most annoying thing so far....
Agreed. Apparently they are all SD rips and the only person putting them out is Cartoon Palace (C_P). They created the Animated torrents which were also poor quality. I don't think we'll see a good quality version until the DVD is released.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetsuwan Convoy
Haven't read the Exodus Book so not sure... thanx for the info.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetsuwan Convoy
Why are people saying that they are the last 5 Autobots? Prime has said that they are the last 5 on Earth. So there are probably more Autobots out in space.
Boy some G1 Prime purists are going to choke on this episode! Awesome stuff :)
Too right!
This episode is easily the best yet and I'm really digging some of the camera and situation effects that have been brought over from the Movies. :eek:
The fight scenes between Transformers really have that well thought out approach to them and in all honesty, crap all over the lame fisty-cuffs that broke out on the G1 cartoon. ;)
This is seriously setting the tone for a good series, it's got all the ingredients for some decent longevity and interest as really, the ground work needs to be set up for the next 25 years of the franchise. :cool:
Don't get me wrong, I love G1, Beast Wars and their continuity - but the franchise can't continuously rely on things that in not too long a time will be considered fairly dated, like 1920s Cinema dated. :o
The future looks bright indeed, contrasted with the dark - this franchise will survive for quite some time to come. :D
I love hearing Welker doing Megatrons voice its so AWESOME!!
Its looking to be a good series my only fear is that it will start getting really good and then Hasbro will decide that they want to freshen up the franchise again and it will get canned before its time.
I like Welker's voice but i think i could handle and prefer it as closer to the original like Cullen's Prime. Starscream's VA is utterly awesome too!
I prefer this voice. As Welker said, he brought his Megatron voice down to more of an "acting level". So instead of Megatron being a shouty cartoon dude most of the time, he's much more subtle, until he really explodes, like when he abuses Starscream.
War for Cybertron's Cybertron makes another appearance.
I also like Welker's current Megatron voice. :) Starscream's voice... meh. Don't love nor hate it.
Okay... the human kids are getting on my nerves now - _especially_ Miko. As frustrating as Raf and Jack's interference with the groundbridge was, at least they had good intentions. Miko's just... spastic. Oh look, a giant robot's off to rescue Fowler from enemy giant robots. Yeah... tag along.
No wonder her family back in Japan shipped her off to the other side of the world. :p
With all this love for Welker, I still can't understand why Bay chose to go with Hugo Weaving for the movies.
I remember watching the special features on the DVD and they explained why they went with Weaving by showing a clip of movie Megs with Welker's G1 Megatron voice. Sure it didn't suit, but the guys a professional voice actor and could've changed his method as is clearly evident in Prime.
How so?Quote:
Originally Posted by kurdt_the_goat
I just finished watching the latest episode and to reiterate, this is not a show for kids. I am enjoying it though and I look forward to the finale tomorrow night.
It's getting better. I must say the fight choreography is a huge step up over anything we've seen before in both cartoons and possibly films (haven't seen ROTF).
They've toned down on the orchestral score and the suffocating emo-ness which is good. However Starscream is degenerating into a grovelling backstabber & Megatron punching bag caricature instead of a legitimate threat, which is the vibe I got from the first two episodes.
I was just recalling all the comments made about Prime being too violent in ROTF as he blows away Scavenger at the beginning. Which now seems pretty weaksauce compared to slaughtering a whole field of robots!Quote:
Originally Posted by 5FDP
"Mess with the Bul... oh, wait..." :pQuote:
Originally Posted by kurdt_the_goat
Personally, I like a Prime, or Primal, that leads by example. ;)
Oh my... the drones are not incredibly intelligent but very resilient. And Prime... pure awesomeness. And I love the build up to Meg's endgame.
Very nice ending to Episode 4. I like this series - it's definitely the best current ongoing Transformers continuity - leagues above IDW and the Bay films. I look forward to watching it progress.
I just watched episodes 3 & 4 and although they were overall good, it felt much more disjointed than the first two.
The most annoying bit were sadly the humans which in this episode seem more in line with the infamous annoying humans of the past, the girl in particular. Another thing which annoyed me was how that kid managed to hack into the FBI database - That was absolutely ridiculous and I wouldn't be surprised if even children feel that their intelligence has been insulted after that scene.
Before that girl was just a nuisance now she is very annoying and disrupting. If I were the Autobots I would simply lock up all the kids in a box like the Furman IDW Autobots did in Infiltration.
It was a very disjointed couple of episodes which is more indicative of Orci and Kurtzman's writing style. One moment it's very cartoony with 'yipee!', 'Awesome!' 'Kid hacks FBI computer' but by the next scene with the same humans, there is this attempt at realism with pain, angst and depression throwing me off as a viewer.
I hope the series improves as I can see myself loosing interest if it continues to be this disjointed with the humans becoming 'super kids'. So far the main plot is good but not that interesting to balance out the now more prevalent annoying bits.
As Sky Shadow mentioned, it is certainly by far the best current TF fiction out there as the IDW comics are horrific but I still feel that it could be better if they tone down the kids, particularly Miko and stop giving them random 'super powers' like Raf's hacking skills.
The nature of that complain was not that Prime was too violent but how he killed Scavenger in cold blood and seemed to enjoy it which was completely against his character.Quote:
Originally Posted by kurdt_the_goat
I knew it wouldn't take long for someone to be more specific about that scene! I was merely suggesting someone who thinks the ROTF scene was out of character, might also think this scene was out of character, not necessarily exactly the same.
So I've watched all of the mini series and while it look very nice - although the human character design could use more work - in the end it amounts to a very basic story with no real depth. The characters aren't too interesting and I put it down TF:Prime is missing some heart.
The best way I can put forward this argument is Prime's iteration of Bulkhead. He has been made the token strong guy. I understand that this is only a mini series not really enough room to develop a character.
However, I feel that the new creative team has really mishandled a character that was in his previous version an artist and a space-bridge engineer. I expect that we'll just get more of the same when the series starts next Feb.
I was actually thinking that today as I was analyzing the episodes so far. the TF characters although well rounded, do seem kind of bland.Quote:
Originally Posted by SMHFConvoy
I do hope that the characters are explored more in the new series. But I don't think that'll happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by kup
Sometimes you guys make me feel like i'm back in English Lit class at high school with the analysing! I don't notice half the stuff you're pointing out; hopefully not because i'm an idiot, just i'd rather not watch the show then come write an essay about it. That kills my enjoyment way more than any retarded human characters :)
Guys, c'mon - give it a chance, it's only been 5 episodes of a 26 episode season. :eek:
(To paraphrase, Rome wasn't built over night. ;))
We are all giving it a chance or we wouldn't be watching it. We are just giving our own opinions as we watch the episodes. No one has said that the show is bad and not worth watching, we are just offering our views on the bits that could be improved.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hursticon
Sometimes it seems that some take any sort of criticism as 'hating' the show. There is nothing wrong with watching something, enjoying it but also be able to point out what we didn't like about it.
Everyone has different ways of enjoying the show, if you enjoy it better by not giving much thought to such plot factors then good but don't expect everyone to be the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by kurdt_the_goat
episode 4 and 5 are out downloading now but will watch them tomorrow
i just finished the 5 eps and i must admit it is not to bad at all i really do like the fight sequences of the toon, some are just borderone brutal.... it is good to see some robot carnage, the human factor is a bit to much at times... kinda over done but other then that i enjoyed it
it is a good cast i would like to see a few more "independant" decepticons...
i think if the whole series will follow this it will be pretty good...
come on february
g i joe renegades isnt too bad either
I haven't seen Renegades yet, I'll start to watch it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sharky