I went into Venom not really sure what to expect but it turned out to be a fun enjoyable film. Venom looks great and Hardy did a good job. I think this will be a blu ray purchase.
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I went into Venom not really sure what to expect but it turned out to be a fun enjoyable film. Venom looks great and Hardy did a good job. I think this will be a blu ray purchase.
Saw Venom today.
Man I despise people who talk in movies. :mad: I ended up walking out of the theatre to complain to staff and missed a good chunk of the film. What the flying freak is wrong with some people?!? :mad:
Did you get a refund or extea free viewing?Quote:
Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime
Got complimentary tickets, but still... I'd much rather just be able to watch a movie uninterrupted. Venom's not nearly a good enough movie for me to rewatch it in cinemas. Not good enough to purchase on DVD either (for me). I'll wait until the DVD release and rent it to see it again, but yeah... super annoyed at people wasting my time and ruining my viewing experience. If people aren't interested in watching the film then I don't understand why they don't just step outside and chat among themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by Autocon
Okay, here are things about Venom that I thought didn't make sense:
Some things that don't make sense...
+ Carlton Draught; believes that humanity's salvation lies in space exploration. Because... reasons? He desperately wants to save people but at the same time is murderous, then at the end he's willing to team up with Riot to help his species conquer Earth and eat all humans. How does this reconcile with his own objectives?
+ Why would Brock's employer send him, a reporter well known for exposing people, to do an interview with Tooheys Blue when the objective is to not expose him and save the company? Send someone else!
+ Why does it take 6 months for Riot to travel from Malaysia to the United States? How did it travel alone in the body of a small unaccompanied child?
+ How are Riot and Venom able to easily hop between hosts when apparently it's super important to find a compatible host or the symbiote and host will die? Venom tells Brock that they're perfectly compatible and that he won't be able to find anyone else to merge with, yet he's able to bond with his ex girlfriend and a DOG without any apparent issues. And there are 7 billion people on the planet. How does Venom know that there's noone just as if not more compatible than Brock?
+ Why does Victoria Bitter want to push straight towards testing human subjects? What's the rush? Doing smaller tests on animals makes more sense and decreases the likelihood of failure which may include killing off the symbiotes.
+ Venom is super-duper hungry... then later he's not?
+ How did Venom know that there were dangerous people about to knock on his door? Spider Sen---, oh wait... Hang on, how come Venom can sense guns but he can't sense drones?
+ Why did Riot kill the launch crew? Who's going to pilot/guide the rocket?
+ Actually, how does Riot even plan on travelling between inhabited worlds? His people are on a ... comet? How were they even planning on getting to Earth? They were brought there by coincidence because Asahi Beer's people found them and collected a small sample which they took back to Earth. What if the comet passes by a world without the technology to detect and collect them? What a waste of food. And after consuming humanity, how were they planning on leaving the planet in search of more food? What happens if they land on a planet where the inhabitants are all incompatible for bonding? Would they perish? Like, what happens if they arrived on Cybertron?
+ Why didn't Brock just SMS or Email his former boss instead breaking in and leaving his phone on the desk?
+ Why didn't Budweiser go looking for the symbiote that his team lost in Malaysia? The killing spree must've made news and might've tipped him off.
+ Why aren't San Francisco police mounting a manhunt for Eddie Brock? He's not exactly anonymous to the police, and he'd be wanted for several charges including resisting arrest, assaulting police and killing at least one officer.
+ Carlton United is running all these highly illegal secret plans, yet he hires a very large staff who have access to these things, and even sacks people with this knowledge. :o Only two people on Bruce Wayne's staff knew his secret, and the Vulture was smart enough to keep a small crew and killed the person who wanted to opt out.
+ Why weren't Francis Drake's goons better equipped to capture the Venom symbiote? They clearly knew that the creatures were susceptible to high frequency sounds, so why not bring an emitter to stun the creature for capture?
+ When the scientists release the symbiotes they only ever attack the poor selected human hosts but never the scientists. Why? Would make more sense if the containment units were remotely opened. Also... how do the scientists get the symbiotes back in containment? Do they wear clothes/suits that are immune to the symbiotes' ability to bond? If so, why aren't the henchmen wearing this material?
+ The movie doesn't explain why Venom has a craving for chocolates. I know that the comics do, but the movie never does. I also don't understand why Venom craves Tater Tots... do they also contain high amounts of phenethylamine?
+ Anne, a lawyer, was able to very quickly switch on an MRI machine and a working computer to produce sounds over 600 Hertz. What luck.
+ Why do the symbiotes look like Spider-Man?
+ Carlton Banks has the most American sounding British accent I've ever heard.
NOTE: I'm not saying that you can't enjoy this movie. As I said, I found it fun and entertaining - I enjoyed it. But it doesn't mean that the critics are wrong. You can enjoy something but know that it's not good at the same time (like enjoying a Big Mac. Mmm... Big Maaac....) ;)
Small Foot. Nothing ground breaking story wise. A bit like the croads with not questioning things or going outside the limits. Human and yeti find eachother and then work together at the end in peace. Animation is fine, voice work good, just a story we have seen before in different guises. 5/10
I saw Venom, and surprisingly enjoyed a good portion of it. I mean it sure is cheesy and almost like a superhero film from the bad old days of 90's superheroes, however it's saving grace is Tom Hardy as Eddie Brock, and his relationship with Tom Hardy as Venom. if only the film had more of that, every other character and plot element was forgettable except for that.
Not sure if I'd recommend, and yet I wouldn't say don't see it either.
I rewatched the Matrix sequels over last weekend.
I enjoyed them a lot more now than I did when I was 13. They're not brilliant, the CGI has not aged well at all, and a lot of the action is pointless fluff, but they were fun to watch again after all this time.
Is the Animatrix streaming anywhere?
The Matrix trilogy is cyberpunk heaven.Quote:
Originally Posted by SharkyMcShark
I recall when the Animatrix first came out I had to travel to the city to watch it because it was only given an arthouse kind of release.
Venom. Enjoyable film to see at the cinema. Some of the action was hard to see as its shot at night. Venom didnt seem to threatening and it was subdued by a human. The relationship did feel like a symbiotic one where they needed eachother. The interactions of Brock and venom were good.
6/10. Not as good as spiderman but still stands on its own feet.
There were four of them on earth. Venom, Riot, dead.... is the fourth one carnage?
Fantastic beasts 2: not as good as the first. The focus is more on moving the story forward rather than character development. Therefore not as engaging with the characters from the previous movie. Lots of whiz bang cgi. Would have liked a more personal story with the characters to have a more personal experience but they feel a bit skipped over. Finding out who the guy was baffled me, as i didnt remember that character from the books and dont understand the family tree and where he sits. Almost feels like a filler movie. 5/10.
I quite enjoyed Beasts 2. There was enough character development. Sure their coulda been more, but hey, still enjoyable. A few easter eggs too. I don't understand why it's copping the flack it is, but everyone is a critic. I listen to myself, not others when it comes to movies.
Fantastic Beasts 2
I didn't see the first one or indeed the first fifteen minutes of this as I was buying a choc top.
I found this film thoroughly uninteresting but did enjoy the wide variety of waistcoats on display throughout.
Why does Johnny Depp look like a sex pest in all of his films?
Also saw Fantastic Beasts 2. Not as good as the first one, it seemed to drag at times but I hope that's just necessary character development for the third movie to be a mind blowing spectacle.
I really disliked this film. From memory, in the first one the "fantastic beasts" seemed to actually be important: we'd learn more about them in a kind of "Pokedex report" kind of way and it was a bit silly and full of hide from the muggles type antics.
In this one there were some "fantastic beasts" that seemed very secondary to the plot, just there, and the plot was so much about mystery and conspiracy and setting up the remaining three films (not just a third shockNwave- another three!) that there didn't seem to be much time for the characters to do anything interesting.
The muggle friend barely got to do anything you could wipe him out altogether and yet he was interesting comic foil in the first. Ezra Millar's character that everyone cared about barely got to do anything, and all that fuss about the snake woman and I don't even think she was called by name.
Plus it was grey and dark most of the time so visually pretty uniteresting too. I'm sure the chase at the start would have been a lot more fun if we could see what was happening! At least the visit to Hogwarts was kind of interesting but that was relying on affection for those other 8 films.
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Originally Posted by Paulbot
She was just once, because I recall asking a friend who is much more invested in Potter than I am whether it was previously established that Nagini was once a human woman.
Yeah the lead circus guy who runs the freak show said it. I dont see anything wrong with the snake being an asian woman. The actress thought it was great to have an asian in the movies and i agree.
Ironic that there is a freak show in the magical world when in the muggle world they would all be considered freaks.
I got to see Sorry To Bother You at the Nova in Carlton last night. Very very limited release here, the Nova is the only place I know of in Melbourne that’s showing it, nearly 6 months after it was out in the US.
It’s a surrealist satirical comedy and it’s just so great. A huge amount to unpack, so many little details (some that come and go in a split second - this will absolutely stand up to repeat viewings) that imbue it with so much meaning. No scene, no character, no line of dialogue is wasted. It’s starts off pretty normal and then gets weird. And then gets *really* weird. And at the end it gets *REALLY* weird.
HIGHLY recommended. Unless you have a more conservative bent, in which case you may not like it at all.
Watched Creed 2 the other day, enjoyable movie, nice play on both sides of the ring, felt like it was directed more in the theme of the original Rocky sequels though. If I had to compare it to the first Creed, I would say the first is a way more superior movie (Coogler’s talents excelled in that one) but it’s still definitely worth the watch if you’re a fan of the Rocky anthology. End fight is well done and the score in the last round will send shivers down the spine of any fan
Watched Mortal Engines yesterday and what a wonderful work of steampunk sci-fi. If you're a fan of the T-800 terminator then you'll love the character known as the resurrected man.:D
May have to watch this movie a second time.
While I really enjoyed Black Panther, there's something that really bugs me about it from an historiographical perspective.Quote:
Originally Posted by Meister
The story is definitely a quality inclusive movie rather than tokenism (of course a stack of that is due to how good a storyteller Stan Lee was, when he created him during the Civil Rights era) and the idea of an African nation being super high tech because of a localised mineral deposit of extra terrestrial origin definitely works as a concept.
Trying to place the thing into a specific time zone is very tricky though.
As this video has noted, while the vibranium meteorite wouldn't have had an explosive impact, there would have been earthquakes due to conservation of momentum, meaning that any developed civilisation would have noted the earthquake.
Considering the spread of the Roman Empire, anything from the tail end of the 3rd Century BC is ruled out as by that point, Carthage exists in Africa, meaning that the impact would have been recorded and due to trading, Rome would have been aware of it.
So then what about placing the impact even earlier? We know that as of the tail end of the 6th Century BC,the Phonecian Empire was a large, seafaring, trading empire and so it is reasonable to presume that the Phonecian Empire existed at least a few centuries prior. In fact the reason I cite the late 6th century is because we know at that time, a treaty was signed between Carthage and Rome with the express purpose of combating piracy - which the cynical mind would consider to be one of the two great exports of Ancient Greece; the other being xenophobia.
Given that we know that around 1200 BC, the great kingdoms of the age all died out, that Etruscan mythology points to a post-apocalyptic origin for it and the Latins and that Hellenistic (Greek) colonisation doesn't take place until roughly the mid 8th Century BC, a possible argument for the meteorite hitting Wakanda between 1200BC and 750BC could be made - although probably closer to 900BC rather than 750BC for the more recent date.
This then presents its own issues in terms of technological development.
We know that Wakanda hid itself from the outside world knowing that its resources could be corrupted and exploited. To do this effectively, it would mean that the introduction of Vibranuim would require cloaking shield technology to have been created by roughly 2,800-2,900 years ago.
While it's not outside the realms of possibility, that is one hell of a rapid period of scientific and technological growth.
However this presents another problem. The level of technology we see in Black Panther is certainly decades more advances than the rest of the world, but I wouldn't say that it's almost 3,000 years more advanced than the rest of the world- not even close to it. So then the question is, how do you explain such a rapid pace of technological advancement, followed by what is essentially an almost 3 millennia-long period of technological plateauing?
While I'm open to an explanation, I'm also incredibly grateful that I'm not the one writing a history of Wakanda and having to reconcile this massive continuity-based can of worms.
Rented The Predator for a lazy, brain-dead evening of doing other things in the background. Lots of big, dumb fun. Doesn’t take itself, or the franchise, at all seriously. Thank goodness.
Watched the Bumblebee movie. Finally a TF movie I can recommend to people! I found it a little slow but probably because I was waiting foe the next fight scene as they were amazing. Bee is such a smart fighter and this reinforces it.
Fantastic script and work by Travis Knight and the actors. I will use review scores to convince people who are burnt out by M.Bay to go see it.
My spoiler-free thoughts of Bumblebee...
Absolutely FANTASTIC movie for many reasons already stated. :) I would rate it 4½/5 stars.
I have watched 2 video reviews by 3 film critics who hated the Michael Bay films but have LOVED Bumblebee. And this is what I've been saying for years about Bayformers -- the best way to silence your critics is to produce a good film. Hearing these haters of live action Transformers films lavish love and praise for Bumblebee is just amazing. People who walked into this movie with a wary or skeptical outlook walking away smiling and feeling so chuffed speaks volumes about the quality of this movie. I think one of the greatest things that this movie will achieve is shutting up the haters. In fact, I heard 2 critics say that they wish that all the TF films were like this, and that Bumblebee may be even more enjoyable for Bay-haters and possibly less enjoyable for Bay-lovers. Because if you loved the gratuitous explosions and mindless action, if you loved the objectification of women (and girls), if you loved the in-your-face sexual innuendo, if you loved all the toilet humour... if you loved all the "Bayisms" from the previous TF films and that's the sort of thing you look for in a TF film, then yeah, you might be in for a disappointment. But if you prefer movies that actually tell a good story and is driven by character development, then prepare for a pleasant surprise.
In Bayformers everything was secondary to the action. The action drove the stories and characters, and as such, there really wasn't much drive at all. With Bumblebee it's the other way around - the story and characters drives the action. This is the way it should be. The action and visual effects are things that serve to tell the story, the story doesn't serve to showcase the action and effects. And I think that this is something that Knight may be more aware of as a director who's come from relatively humble beginnings as a stop-motion animator.
Saw Bumblebee and Spiderman into the Spiderverse recently, both good films, highly enjoyable. I think Spiderman would overall be the more original and impressive cinematic achievement of the two, but Bumblebee is a huge achievement in the Transformers cinematic universe.
Watched The Christmas Chronicles yesterday. Actually one of the best new Christmas movies I have seen in a long time. Kurt Russell as Santa is quite enjoyable.
The predator, good popcorn flick. Nothing too ground breaking. 5/10
Mortal engines. Better than i expected. Interesting lore. 6/10. Id recommend to see it.
Spiderman- Into the Spiderverse. Best blend of CG and comic book animation I've ever seen just don't recommend it to anyone who suffers from epilepsy, it's very colorful and psychedelic at times with breakneck speed.
P.S. The twist in the lab scene is a brilliant surprise.:D
I was concerned about the incredibles 2 and never saw warnings about epilepsy.Quote:
Originally Posted by shockNwave
Incredibles 2 had a particular strobing scene that prompted the addition of a warning message.
Spiderverse (which is fantastic) has lots of colours and movement but I don't recall there being anything of the particular strobe like effect that was be an issue.
Just watched Bumblebee with the kids. What a great movie. I recommend it to everyone, whether you’re a transformers fan or not. Travis Knight did a masterful job. Best of all the live action films in my opinion.
I heard this one is watchable. I still watched all even though the previous few were bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Meister
Repeat, word for word :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Meister
The best for G1 nostalgia. :cool: Loved the versions of Prime in this :)
Bumblebee is a pretty good movie but I prefer Transformers (2007). Both have good storylines but the 2007 one has more robots to offer.
Though that would prove a curse in the later movies as the robots started to feel more like cardboard cut outs due to saturation and messing with the original g1 design formula is a big gamble if not recipe for disaster (e.g. Starscream).
Although the upside to Bumblebee's is the strong G1 integrity and the lack of robots means (hopefully) a more measured introduction of characters and character development over several movies.
Transformers 07 and Bumblebee both hit you in the heart.
TF07 does it literally as the excitement and action makes your heart pump and gets your adrenaline rushing like being on a roller coaster. I remember the first time I watched this movie, during some of the really fun parts the audience (myself included) were basically cheering at the screen with loud cries of "YYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAHHH!!"
Bumblebee gets your heart racing in a metaphorical and emotional sense as it hits you right in the feels. I also find it more intellectually rewarding as a piece of film literature.
TF07 is a fun pop corn movie that you can watch with your brain switched in low gear. But Bumblebee is a movie that engages you at a higher cognitive level and deals with numerous themes and motifs throughout. Bumblebee is the kind of movie that I would love to dissect and teach as an HSC prescribed text (but instead, as of next year this movie will become the prescribed text that I will need to teach (starting for the Class of 2020)). Okay, for me the prescribed film text has to be in Japanese, but English teachers could teach Bumblebee as a film text. And if anyone thinks that that sounds far fetched, don't forget that Star Wars: A New Hope used to be an HSC prescribed film text for English Standard. ;)
If Star Wars Episode 1 was prescribed. Does that mean that ESB, ROTJ or Rogue One are now prescribed?;)
You mean Episode IV. ;) That's not how prescribed texts work. Also, Rogue One didn't exist when ANH was a prescribed text and it's no longer one now. I can just imagine some students getting lower marks in the HSC because they ranted on about Star Wars canon beyond ANH that wasn't relevant to that story or the question, whereas other students who aren't even Star Wars fans may have scored higher marks because they just stuck to the prescribed text and the question at hand. The Star Wars Saga wasn't the prescribed text, just ANH.Quote:
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The best and worst movies that I saw in 2018
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TOP 5 COUNTDOWN
5: Incredibles 2
Love how this movie starts immediately from when the first Incredibles finished. Loads of thrilling action plus a relatable villain. Although we don't agree with her actions, we can understand what motivates her because ultimately, she's not wrong. Learned helplessness and a lack of independent resilience are ever increasing problems that we are seeing in society today.
4: Spider-Man Into the Spider-Verse
Conceptually one of the freshest movies of 2018. Bold, vibrant and exciting. A real breath of fresh air after Sony's other pathetic Marvel movie of the year. This movie probably ranks higher on other people's list, but personally it just didn't hit me as hard on an emotional level. Still a jolly good and enjoyable film, although you might want to avoid it if you have epilepsy.
3: Black Panther
The Wakandan war cry (Yibambe!) rivals the Elvish war cry (Tangado haid!) from The Lord of the Rings. A hero is only ever as good as his/her villain, and this movie set 2018's standard of having the relatable antagonist. Again we don't agree with Kill Monger's methods but we certainly understand his cause. So much so that his cause proves right at the end and Black Panther even works to fulfill Kill Monger's vision of an open Wakanda that takes a greater role in its responsibilities as a global superpower. Wakanda forever!
2: Bumblebee
Transformers done rightly! Bumblebee focuses on characters and allows the emotional journey of these characters to drive the story. It is the story that drives the action, not the other way around. And the characters, even the villains, are likable! We even have a relatable antagonist, although not nearly at the depth of Screenslaver or Killmonger - but relatable nonetheless. It's a really nice wholesome Transformers movie that fans of all ages can enjoy.
1: Avengers Infinity War
Not just a movie, this was a cinematic event 10 years in the making. Avengers Infinity War shows us what a movie studio can do when they have a focused vision for its cinematic universe and gets all of its directors to work towards this common vision. This movie also rewards its audience for having followed the MCU for the past decade, because it is a movie that really only makes sense if you've seen the other MCU films. But hey, after a decade of releases people have had ample opportunity to catch up - the movie doesn't bog itself down with expositions because much of that was provided in the previous films. It assumes that the audience knows the gist of what's happened in this universe and runs with it. A movie by the fans for the fans that has us all eagerly anticipating Avengers Endgame!
BOTTOM 5 COUNTDOWN
5: Solo: A Star Wars Story
While I did enjoy watching this film, I cannot deny that it is a very conservative, risk-adverse and by-the-numbers movie. Then again, the last time they gave us a risky and daring Star Wars movie was with The Last Jedi, which fans whinged about too. The movie is also not helped by the fact that this movie had a change of director who did lots of reshoots at behest of the studio.
4: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom
Again, much like Solo I found it to be a very by-the-numbers movie. It's very much just a "It's okay" movie.
3: Teen Titans Go! To the Movies
This movie bored me to tears but Yuki, who's watched the TV series, loved it. This movie is much like 1986's The Transformers: The Movie, which I absolutely love but admittedly it doesn't make much sense if you haven't watched the original Transformers cartoon. So yeah, if you're a fan of the Teen Titans Go! TV series then you'll probably enjoy this movie a whole lot more than I did. The Stan Lee cameos were hilarious though. :) That's right, Stan Lee in a DC movie! :D
2: Deadpool 2
Yeah, I dunno... this very base level of cheap humour might amuse me if I were a teenager. There's not a whole lot of appeal in this film beyond its crudeness. Yeah, some of the fourth wall breaking was amusing, but we already saw that in the first Deadpool film. Meh.
1. Venom
TERRIBLE! :o The other movies on this list are ones that I regard as "Okay but not great," but this movie was _awful_. It's not even explicitly linked to Spider-Man or any other Marvel properties in any way, shape or form... and that in itself isn't bad if the film was good (as Christopher Nolan's Batman trilogy was despite not being linked to any other DC properties)... but it's not! It's just bad! The plot makes no sense, the characterisations make no sense... GAH! Okay, visually this movie is better than Venom from Spider-Man 3, and the acting from all cast members was really good. Tom Hardy does play Venom very well and is much better than Topher Grace (Spider-Man 3), but unfortunately no amount of quality acting can save this train-wreck of a story. :( Avoid!
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P.S.: Both the Elvish phrase "Tangado haid" and the Wakandan word "Yibambe" mean the same thing - "hold this position."
Lol I enjoyed Venom way more than Black Panther!!
Ohhh that's cool for the kids, Your Name is rather original and well crafted, and Star Wars is now part of the cultural zeitgeist. I can't say I hold Bumblebee in the same esteem. It's a good movie sure, but it is just a popcorn movie that has heart (as they say), and not at all original. Aside from being a good live action TF film I don't think it's a particularly noteworthy as a piece of film literature.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime
I suppose you could argue that the endless chain of blockbuster action films has dumbed the film going audience down to the point that we applaud when a film requires even the smallest use of our intellect, but I certainly wouldn't consider Bumblebee to be a particularly exemplary piece of cinema.