What do you pay for New JP MPs?

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Originally Posted by Nevac

When you're comparing MP10 with MP1 remember MP10 comes with a trailer, roller and Spike. MP10 trailer MUCH better then the trailer that came with MP4 does anyone remember how much MP4 was? I think I got mine for $200 at Target and we still didn't get Roller with MP4. Also I don't understand why so many people have a hardon for diecast in figures. Sure MP1 was cool because he was loaded with diecast but after 10years all the paint on mine is all chipped all over him making him look really battle damaged. And the ONLY Binaltech I have (Meister) has peeling paint all over him as well. Not to mention my Soundwave's feet are all scratched up as from just standing on my desk.

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It's not just die-cast, MP01 is a significantly more detailed and complex toy. Being originally designed to be just a cab/robot, they really poured a lot of love into that toy. MP10 is a notably simpler figure by comparison, but it's still an excellent toy, and as you rightfully pointed out, it does have a great trailer and Roller which MP01 never had and MP04 didn't have Roller. I find both MP01 and MP10 to be great toys in their own rights, each bringing different things to the table. MP01 is a superior robot, but MP10 is better as an 'overall package.' :)

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Originally Posted by Jetfire in the sky

I remember when BT's came out the early ones had paint issues, all my BT's paint is still on, however, they are on display only and get treated very gently when cleaned.

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I only ever had chipping w/ BT1 Smokescreen, nothing much after that. I once accidentally dropped BT Dead End on the footpath while walking down a busy city street and there were no chips. :o

IMO die-cast enhances the look of vehicle modes. The great thing I love about BTs is how they look like miniature replica cars, something that I felt was lost with Alternators; partially due to the cheaper looking plastics that Hasbro chose (unlike say the plastic quality used on Alternity). So plastic itself can still look close to authentic if done right - but it still doesn't look or feel as good as die-cast (and chrome!) IMO. :)

Hmmmm a thread about how low u got your stuff for? Got to consider postage, forex, quality of issue, location of postage, quantity of release, etc

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Originally Posted by nexusnixx

Hmmmm a thread about how low u got your stuff for? Got to consider postage, forex, quality of issue, location of postage, quantity of release, etc

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Please see post #1:

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Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime

We are only looking at the cost of the toy, please do not factor in cost of postage/shipping.

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I paid $3 for postage for my MP Prowl because it was shipped in a box w/ other toys via slow-slow SAL. Someone else who ships it individually via an express service would pay a lot more. It doesn't make the MP toy itself any more expensive, we both may have paid about the same price for the toy itself, but I'm too cheap to pay for faster shipping whereas the other person isn't. :) So we're just looking at the raw cost of the toy. ;)

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Originally Posted by Nevac

When you're comparing MP10 with MP1 remember MP10 comes with a trailer, roller and Spike. MP10 trailer MUCH better then the trailer that came with MP4 does anyone remember how much MP4 was? I think I got mine for $200 at Target and we still didn't get Roller with MP4. Also I don't understand why so many people have a hardon for diecast in figures. Sure MP1 was cool because he was loaded with diecast but after 10years all the paint on mine is all chipped all over him making him look really battle damaged. And the ONLY Binaltech I have (Meister) has peeling paint all over him as well. Not to mention my Soundwave's feet are all scratched up as from just standing on my desk.

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I still don't agree with your comparison, no offence here, mp04 still a bigger toy and was worth at correct pricing. If mp10 is that good, funny why I have not bothered to buy one. MP01 was nominated and won TOY of the year by many Mecha fans who voted, mind you this is an agreement from non transformers fans as well.

Too bad you only have one Binaltech to compare and make a say. I have almost the entire set, and if anything it brought back interest for me to look at Transformers.

One of MY MAIN issue is you can shout about mp10 all you want, but there isn't a Megatron scaled down till date that he can stand beside and fight and that for me was actually a deal breaker.

Note: being said if the NEW car series is at $90 bucks for the Binaltech size 1/24, I buy them ALL RIGHT NOW.

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Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime

IMO die-cast enhances the look of vehicle modes. The great thing I love about BTs is how they look like miniature replica cars, something that I felt was lost with Alternators; partially due to the cheaper looking plastics that Hasbro chose (unlike say the plastic quality used on Alternity). So plastic itself can still look close to authentic if done right - but it still doesn't look or feel as good as die-cast (and chrome!) IMO. :)

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I definitely agree with this. +1
Though at times the plastic ones "could pass" for some of the characters.

Super like! +1

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Originally Posted by kurdt_the_goat

I can tell u what people are paying already though - as little as they have to and as much as they're willing to!

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There is no denying MP1 was a superior toy at the time it came out and I'd be amazed if anyone into Transformers at the time did not buy it. Thing is when MP10 came out most people didn't jump on board because they already had MP1/4 and I include myself in that number too as my interest in Transformers had waned at that point having skipped MP6-9.

But when the Hasbro one came to Toy's R Us on a sale at the time I couldn't pass it up for $112.50 and after playing around with him ever since I've come to like him much better then MP1. Looking back knowing what I know now I probably would be happy to pay more then that for MP10. I wonder if both toys came out at the same time which would people buy? But if I never bought the Hasbro MP10 I probably would never have got back into Transformers, well maybe just Soundwave but I wouldn't have bought the cars at all. The new scale was what is really enticing me now and was why I paid an inflated price for Sideswipe because I had the Hasbro Prime that and I didn't think he'd be re-issued.

I mean obviously new fans would buy MP10 now as he's the only one you can buy now new. I think if they both came out back then and both sold at the same price I probably would have bought MP10. As for the MP's I bought they were...

Hasbro 20th Anniversary Optimus Prime (Retail some local store)
MP2 Ultra Magnus (Retail Target)
MP3 Greenscream (Online somewhere forget where)
MP4 Optimus (Online somewhere forget where)
MP5 Megatron (1 from Ebay and 1 from BBTS plugged)

Hasbro MP10 Optimus Prime ($112.50 TRU)
MP11 Starscream ($229.98 Ebay)
MP12 Lambor ($184.45 Ebay Didn't think he'd get re issued at the time)
MP13 Soundwave ($189.99 BBTS)
MP15 Ravage & Rumble ($72.85 BBTS bought 1 for a friend for slightly cheaper shipping)
MP16 Buzzsaw & Frenzy ($86.83 BBTS)
MP17 Prowl ($90 RK)
MP18 Bluestreak ($84.32 RK went with cheaper shipping)

All prices above include shipping if applicable, I do not know how much they cost without shipping as at the time when I started logging all my expenses in excel I included shipping on the entry since that is the total I paid for the toy.

I skipped Red Alert because I missed the boat when they came out initially and I didn't want to pay inflated price for Red Alert especially since he's a pretty minor S2 char.

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Originally Posted by Nevac

I wonder if both toys came out at the same time which would people buy? )

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I would buy both :p But seriosuly if I had to absolutely choose it would be MP 1 due to his size.

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Originally Posted by Nevac

There is no denying MP1 was a superior toy at the time it came out and I'd be amazed if anyone into Transformers at the time did not buy it.

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I have both MP01 and Hasbro's MP10 (and I've seen/handled TakTOM MP10 IRL), and I still find MP01 to be the superior figure between the two. But that's not necessarily a criticism against MP10 per se, because obviously that toy was designed w/ the trailer, Roller & Spike, so the cab/robot was always going to be less flashy than MP01 which was only ever the cab/robot. So without having to divvy the budget up with a trailer or Roller, they could focus everything on the cab/robot.

The reason why I skipped TakTOM's MP10 was partially because I already have MP01, but also because of its price (approx. x2.25 the price of what I paid for MP01). But when Hasbro's MP10 came out here for about $35 more than what I paid for MP01, I decided that this was a great price and I bought it at full AU retail. :) Even better for those who bought it for less. :D

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Originally Posted by Nevac

I wonder if both toys came out at the same time which would people buy?

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Depends... if MP10 was sold at TakaraTOMY's price, I would get MP01. If it were at Hasbro's price, I'd get MP10. :o

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Originally Posted by Nevac

All prices above include shipping if applicable, I do not know how much they cost without shipping as at the time when I started logging all my expenses in excel I included shipping on the entry since that is the total I paid for the toy.

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Can you calculate what % of what you paid for MP17 was for postage, and then maybe just use that as a guesstimate of what you paid for the rest of your MPs? <shrugs>

Definitely if there was a mp04 and mp10 and then if there is a Magtron mp as well I think anyone's logical would be....

Buy them all. lol