Unauthorised products section created

All those other toy sections will be relocated (eventually) to their own forum - creating their own separate sections here was meant to be a transitional step to see where the interest most lies. (it's just been a issue of expense at this time, delaying that move)

And I wanted to mention - grouping sections together that are related (like KOs and Unauthorised items, or other sections) doesn't suggest or imply that they are exactly the same legally or ethically (that's for lawyers to determine).

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Originally Posted by jaydisc

You both sound like you've rationalized this in a way that you're each comfortable with. Now can everyone else do the same without facing anyone else's judgement?

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I thought I was rationalising it according to the actual definition of a counterfeit.
1: "an imitation intended to be passed off fraudulently or deceptively as genuine; forgery." (dictionary.com)
2: "an imitation, usually one that is made with the intent of fraudulently passing it off as genuine."

Btw, I never said that this makes fan-items any better or worse or more or less acceptable than counterfeits. I've merely said that this is what distinguishes them apart and what would be acceptable for the unauthorised TF section and what would not. It doesn't mean I'm condoning one over the other. I personally don't condone either and as a general rule I don't buy toys that aren't manufactured under licence by HasTak. I'm assuming that you (and STL) also don't buy unauthorised toys either, given your rather vehement stance against them.

griffin: I like the idea of merging both unauthorised and KOs into one section with sub-forums (or if not, even just different threads). :)

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Originally Posted by griffin

The growing number of sections was starting to bother me as well, which is why I've already started condensing/hiding sections. But every section was originally created for a reason, at some point in time.
I will merge the KO and Unauthorised sections, as there isn't enough traffic to support two sections (and I wouldn't be wanting that much traffic either).
I want to look at the 'sub-forum' concept - which has related sections merged on the main table, but each section should still exist like a filter when looking for certain types of topics.

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To me this move adds legitimacy to KOs on the board by throwing the fan stuff along with replica or deceitful products. It blurrs the line.

But it's your call.

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Originally Posted by kup

To me this move adds legitimacy to KOs on the board by throwing the fan stuff along with replica or deceitful products. It blurrs the line.

But it's your call.

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Adds legitimacy to what? It doesn't. They are all unauthorised whether it they be monkeys, barbies or zucchinis.

So you classify deceitful as good as stealing someone's property. Nice one.

Overall, I don't care. I think board efficiency is what is important here. Make it a place that's easy to navigate and participate.

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Originally Posted by STL

Adds legitimacy to what? It doesn't. They are all unauthorised whether it they be monkeys, barbies or zucchinis.

So you classify deceitful as good as stealing someone's property. Nice one.

Overall, I don't care. I think board efficiency is what is important here. Make it a place that's easy to navigate and participate.

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I agreed that it was his call. Why continue on harping on about it?

Prime's Transformers Movie News should be in Soundwave's Global News.

Laserbeak's AUS TFs Sightings should be in Outback's Australian News as a subsection.

Ratbat's Transformers Reviews and Scavenger's Acquisitions should be merged into one section.

Blackarachnia's Hideout should be disappeared altogether.

Member Sale Feedback should be a subsection or sticky in Members' Transformers Sales.

Lego, Mattel, Hasbro should be merged into All Other Toys as subsections so there is only two parts to Unicron's Oblivion.

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Originally Posted by kup

I agreed that it was his call. Why continue on harping on about it?

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You qualified it. I replied to your suspect qualification. But hey, we both agree. It's his call. ;)

This would be my breakdown..

-Unauthorised products
--KOs
--3rd party products

All are unlicenced (check).
Keep KO's and 3rdParty separate because there are KO's of 3rdParty products (check).

Now where I-gear's Faith leader gets put is a different discussion that deals with the clarification of KO and 3rdParty. Let's not pollute this discussion and instead open a different thread up for this.

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Originally Posted by SamLoi888

Prime's Transformers Movie News should be in Soundwave's Global News.

Laserbeak's AUS TFs Sightings should be in Outback's Australian News as a subsection.

Ratbat's Transformers Reviews and Scavenger's Acquisitions should be merged into one section.

Blackarachnia's Hideout should be disappeared altogether.

Member Sale Feedback should be a subsection or sticky in Members' Transformers Sales.

Lego, Mattel, Hasbro should be merged into All Other Toys as subsections so there is only two parts to Unicron's Oblivion.

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I agree with most of this except I would keep the movie section seperate as it is a rather big part of Transformers at the moment. Maybe in a couple of years once the trilogy comes out in a box set on dvd and all that then it can merge into the global section.

Blackarachnia's Hideout has no bearing on me whatsoever so I can leave it be.

Everything else I agree with.

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Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime

I'm assuming that you (and STL) also don't buy unauthorised toys either, given your rather vehement stance against them.

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I don't know why you've assumed that. I've never been against "3rd Party Products" or "Replicas". While I don't personally buy "Replicas", I do not purport that there is any legal or ethical difference between the two.