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I'm pretty sure (read that as certain) that MP Megs is able to be legally owned in Victoria (where it is considered an "imitation" firearm) and has been for a few years now, you just need to jump through some hoops to get the Chief commissioner's approval:
http://www.police.vic.gov.au/content...ument_ID=32717
All the information is available from the links in this page, but the second last paragraph is the relevant one.
In fact I'm now not certain that MP Megs is actually banned anywhere in Australia?
And after a few more clicks, the cost of making a successful application to the Chief Commissioner is $178.70. A pretty hefty hoop to jump through.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ultra Mackness
I don't love my MP Megs that much :oQuote:
"Successful applications attract prescribed fees. A money order or personal cheque made out to the Licensing Services Division must accompany all applications in the first instance. Where an application is rejected, this will be returned to the applicant."
So... for a 'fee' they'll make your problem disappear? It's funny how something illegal can be made legal by simply throwing money at it. That's not like the police at all :rolleyes:
Yeah it is expensive now, but it is legal to own MP or other gun forming Megs in Victoria. By making the fee so high, whether he is prohibited or not kind of becomes the choice of the collector.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lint
So NSW & VIC have conditional ownership laws, compared to other states that are either legal or illegal.
Once the public knows about how ridiculous the laws are, they'll ignore it. :D But if this wasn't in the news, you'll bet he'll get some kind of fine for violating the law.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sinnertwin
On the upside, some further reading reveals that once an individual or business has made this successful application they can pretty much import and own as many imitation firearms as they like.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ultra Mackness
Though for a TF collector this pretty much amounts to the two MP's, Browning and the half dozen or so variants of the G1 toy?Quote:
Is there a limit to how many imitation firearms I can possess under a Chief
Commissioner’s Weapons Approval or a Governor in Council Exemption?
No. As there is no requirement to register imitation firearms, there is no limit as to
the amount that can be possessed once a Chief Commissioner’s Prohibited Weapons
Approval or Governor in Council Exemption is obtained, unless otherwise specified
by condition.
Ref: http://www.police.vic.gov.au/retriev...&status=active
Someone needs to update that Megatron Owners Club website.
That fee is waived in NSW. It still appears on the form, but we don't have to pay it, so we just ignore it. Check to see if it's been similarly waived in VIC too. The form itself is for people who apply for permits to own proper replica firearms, hence the fee -- but I know that in NSW it's been waived.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lint
Oh yeah, that was a PR Job & a half from the Police.Quote:
Originally Posted by jazzcomp
Just buy one in HK and take it through HK and Australia customs like I did back in '09.
:)
This was an interesting article I came across today. It actually refers to this Customs document here.
Basically is your responsibility to comply the State Laws.Quote:
Originally Posted by griffin
Is a bit sad that we became over the top. I do NOT know how Singapore classify Megatron but Airsoft guns are illegal in Singapore whereas Magetrons are allowed.
The sad part of life is, anyone can respray a gun to look realistic, I have seen some toy guns in Toy World, though not as bad but it does do the job if you really want to rob a bank.
Hi guys first post, Ive just read the thread about importing mp05 megatron into Australia and the procedures to get him here, would this also apply to other megatron figures or just specifically to mp05??
Does it matter if megatron is shipped in transformed as a gun? I think the hegemon comes in robot form so will this matter??
from what I've read about the NSW situation;
Customs: Shipping in Robot mode would improve the chances of it getting through customs, as it does not resemble a replica weapon at that time - but even though you may receive your package you still have to consider the consequences of owning one without a permit.
Ownership: If it can change into a form which resembles a firearm then you could be in trouble (so it doesn't matter if its shipped in robot or gun mode when it comes to legality of ownership).
http://www.police.nsw.gov.au/__data/..._2013_V1.4.pdf
http://www.police.nsw.gov.au/service...mits/imitation
are links to all the information for NSW.
Having said that, the link to the fact sheet states that
So if the apollyon packaging states an age range on it, and its shipped in robot mode, I'd think that you could argue that it should be classified as a children's toy.Quote:
An imitation firearm does not include anything that is produced and identified as a children's toy ... A child's toy would be distinguished from an imitation firearm by the packaging, targeted sale market (ie sold in a toy
store, marked for ages 3+ etc), the materials the toy is made from, the general appearance or the functioning of the toy
(for example, a water pistol).
fair enough I just found an aussie seller online who has pre orders for this figure so i just placed an order with them, i tihkn i will place alot more orders with these guys tfidownunder, saving a crap load on shipping
Hey man thanx a million for the effort and help much appreciated:)Quote:
Originally Posted by xlojnr
no worries.
let us know how you like the apollyon when you get it!! (in the 3rd party toys forum)
no worries sure willQuote:
Originally Posted by xlojnr
This site might also help http://www.megatron.net.au/.
Thanks to Tiby I was able to get my Megs back from the nasty customs office a couple years back. Such a shame that Customs decided to hack the box with the box cutters when they opened it...
Ongoing topic here about replica gun toys.
(this topic will be merged with it later)
Don't risk importing it at all if you don't have the legal right to own one. If Customs sees it no matter what state you are in they will seize it and you can be prosecuted. All MP Megatron's ship in robot mode, it makes no difference. If you are in a state that allows ownership of toy guns or you have permits then Megatron will still be seized, but you have legal procedures you can follow to get it forwarded to you by customs. Sometimes a gun Transformer slips through customs, that does not make it legal.
...or ya know... you could just get the permit and stress less? :o Many of us here are permit holders. :)
The law covers any toy that can be considered a replica firearm (i.e. transforms into a gun mode based on an actual gun and can be held like one). So this includes:
+ Microman Gun Robos
+ G1 Megatron (and all reissues)
+ G1 Browning
+ eHobby Megaplex
+ Masterpiece Megatron
Transforming it to robot mode doesn't matter. Since 2007 Australian Customs started intercepting Masterpiece Megatron, despite being packaged in robot mode. They've figured out how to detect these toys in robot mode. Also be aware that Customs can seize parcels across state borders too (AFAIK).
On the plus side, the following Gunformers are perfectly legal in NSW:
+ G1 Shockwave, G1 Galvatron & Classics Megatron (fictitious non-realistic looking gun modes)
+ Smallest Transforming and Reveal the Shield Megatron (too small to be realistically held like a gun)
thanks for the info and help guys,so does it usually take long to get this permit in nsw??
It can take a few weeks, so best to apply ASAP, but before you submit the application, be sure that you are compliant with safe storage requirements. See here for full details about applying for the permit and complying with safe storage requirements in NSW.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y22...ronpermitt.jpg
Hey Guys
I am new to this forum and just started collecting :)
I understand that MP5 megs is not legal, but what about the gold re-issue?
Do you think there will be any issues with that?
Cheers!
Welcome to Ozformers :)
The same laws apply. It's still considered a replica firearm.