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The wiki is currently down, so I can't double check, but I believe Simon said on the IDW forums that meta-cycles were 13 months, but maybe he changed it since then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulbot
TF/Avengers is not part of my personal canon :P In any case, its exclusion barely even registers a blip on the overall storyline.
I thought the New Avengers/TF crossover was a separate continuity. In the Marvel Universe the New Avengers occur on Earth-616 which is the "mainstream" Marvel universe.
Now I doubt that Marvel would allow the New Avengers, Dr. Doom etc. to enter IDW continuity... so I think that Avengers/TFs must be either a contained continuity or perhaps Transformers entered Earth-616. The former seems more likely to be the case... considering that Marvel didn't allow Transformers to exist on Earth-616 during G1 and G2 when they publishing Transformers, I am skeptical that they would allow it now that TFs is no longer in their court.
The 1989 one was the only one I managed to get hold of in the 80's themselves, the rest I accumulated in the late 90's. The worst bit was that some of the stories in the '87 and '88 Annuals in particular were fairly 'important' reading for the weekly book, which frustrated me as a child. (What... Ultra Magnus and Galvatron are buried in a volcano now? Galvatron and Megatron are working together? Highbrow has Scorponok's head? Where are my shoes? Etc.)Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulbot
Meh, I just wanted to see the carnage:D in this TF lore version :p:p but the catsup shoes got edited :(:(Quote:
Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime
Thanks for the list! Now I can store my comics in order~ :pQuote:
Originally Posted by FFN
Yes it's it's own little universe -- the crossover didn't occur in Earth-616 because it is out of continuity with the events in the New Avengers comic -- but this universe had the same history as the IDW one as far as the Transformers are concerned.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime
I've read the first AHM and I found it to be an interesting read, I was little disapointed with the lack of human death showed but that's to be expected since kids do read the comics.
I'm hoping to grab the second issue today.
The preview comic "Focus on Decepticons" had a pair of blood soaked sneakers, they were edited out in #1.Quote:
Originally Posted by hotaru_oz
I like it how in #1 only 1 person in the constructicons scene, was worried, the rest were all "ooooh its a movie" I love that bit
We do see blood flying when Frenzy leaps on those soldiers mind you. And again, G1/G2 showed us mass carnage of humans without visually showing us anything too graphic (e.g.: San Francisco).
I think the way they are handling human deaths in TF fiction is fine. Showing graphic human deaths in Transformers fiction is childish and puerile.
Is AHM an allegory about the struggle of the working class man over the corporate machine?
yeah I noticed that, I know I wasn't expecting full on gore but a little blood would've been nice, considering all the violence that was happening.Quote:
Originally Posted by roller
I just read the 2nd issue and it seemed a little short to me, I think it's because I'm used to reading thick manga volumes :)
I'm also wondering how someone could mistake Ravage for a giant robot dog :confused:
any way I loved it and waiting for the next issue ^^
Didn't they do that in Megatron Origin? Working class Megatron leads a bolshie revolution against the fatcats of the Senate or something that was lost in the orgy of REALLY CHEESY "robo blood" and artist Alex Milne giving all of the Transformers anime catgirl fangs.Quote:
Originally Posted by roller
The guy was being chased by a giant robotic quadraped... it's meant to be a... well, do you know exactly what kind of animal Ravage is meant to be? (noone else tell her please)Quote:
Originally Posted by hotaru_oz
http://planetcybertron.com/ravage-1.jpg
A/ Panther
B/ Leopard
C/ Cheetah
D/ Lion
E/ Jaguar
F/ Cougar
G/ Lynx
H/ Tiger
I/ Puma
...and considering that he's never seen Ravage before (probably never seen a Transformer before) and he's being chased and running for his life - under that kind of pressure I think it's understandable that he could make an assumption that it could be a dog. :p So place yourself in some highly-stressful situation and then think about what kind of animal Ravage is meant to be. ;)
Also goes to show what crap beast modes the G1 Transformers had - as far as robots in disguise goes, Ravage's quadrapedic robot mode is utterly unconvincing compared to say Cheetor or Tigatron (although his true alt mode is his microcassette tape mode).
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/tr...rontrigger.jpghttp://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/tr...etorbeast1.jpg
...and mispelling of Sentinel Prime as Sentinal Prime. (-_-)Quote:
Originally Posted by FFN
Still, I really liked the underlying premise for that story though. :)
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Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime
Lol gee I'm guessing Ravage is one hell of a giant mechanical Panther with a stubby tail :p
True the guy was more concerned from said giant killer kitty than trying figure out what it is.
Note a couple of posts about the TF novels (and Animporhs!) have been moved here
Sorry, not a panther. Ravage is meant to be a Jaguar. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by hotaru_oz
hahaha yeah, i just felt like saying something 'deep'Quote:
Originally Posted by FFN
I've finally come back here (the board) after a busy hiatus! good to see conversation still going. some speculation has seemed weird to me, but i'm constantly on the idw forums and knew the clarity of AHM being set 1 year later. Revelations and Max Dinos fitting in that gap and providing initially a rushed and then more fleshed out completion to Furman's work.
Anyhow. I think the main test for AHM is to see whether a lengthy Transformers tale will work in modern comics publishing. It is essentially an ongoing test, but not really. It also will push IDW to market well as their won't be another #1 for a while on the main line (ecxluding MAx dinos).
I've enjoyed the slow burn SLASH blockbuster feel of AHM so far, loved the cons and the interactions especially in #3 between Megs and Starscream.
Don't mind either the return to main line characters at all.
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?p...ticle&id=18289
Issue #2's
141 (Rank); IDW Transformers All Hail Megatron #2; 13,355 (sales); #1 (previous issue) 15,699; (previous issue's sales); -2,344 (decline in units); -14.93% (percentage decline)
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:( Nothing to write home about exactly.
Covers #5 and #6
Art by Casey Coller (Spotlight Blurr) colours by Joana LaFuente.
I wonder how accurate these covers are, as in do they showcase characters in the comic itself or are they the "not at all related" style covers that are there just to look pretty (which they do quite well).
Really hope the central figure of cover #5 appears, the IDW Universe needs more of him.
Issue five's cover is a very nice image.
Drift scares the hell out of me, as Guido Guidi said (in reply to comments that Drift's design suggests Drift is a try-hard for Japan pop culture) that the character is what many would consider to be a japanophile. Now, some people said that it's just similar to Jazz emulating African-American culture... but Jazz is *cool*.
In much the same way that I'm not writing Jazz as emulating African-American culture, I'm not writing Drift as emulating Japanese culture either.Quote:
Originally Posted by FFN
In some respects Drift has a 'samurai' quality about him but that's something that's also shared with Western Gunslingers. Wolverine has 'samurai' qualities about him but I wouldn't regard him as a Japanophile (and no, Drift has no similarities with Wolverine...sideburns on TFs?? Nah).
There's clearly a Japanese influence in Drift's design; that was deliberate. But since Drift has yet to appear heavily in my scripts no-one but myself has any idea of how his personality will play out.
You might find plenty of reasons to dislike the guy when he appears, and hey, each to their own, but he's not going to be a walking Japanese stereotype.
just read issue 4
Spoilers ahead if you havent read it
Spoiler for Spotlight Mirage as well
whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaa
whats goin on?!!!?????????????????????!!!!????????????????
this mysterys getting deeper
Id like to think that the chosen one, Hotrod, has gone mad! :D Course, im waiting on the edge of my seat to find out which planet there really on.
Just wondering, how long have the humans been hiding out? weeks? days? hours?
I also enjoyed bumblewasp complaining about earth tyres, i made that kind of conclusion ages ago too, in the cartoon it would have been cool to see someone slide over one of the 10000ft expressways.
My one complaint about IDW so far, too short a read.
As for spotlight Mirage, he was on Earth at the end right? Did he ever make contact with the other Autobots?
Is there a Jazz toy that is like his AHM appearance?
+1 QFT. I don't mind an issue with plenty of dialogue and back-story building... but I found that there was a distinct lack of action in this issue. :/Quote:
Originally Posted by roller
The issue kinda read like so:
Decepticons: "MUAHAHAHAHA!"
Humans: "Hhnnn..."
Autobots: "WhY mY SHoULd3Rs hUR7?"
THE END!
Actually... I thought you kinda were with the way Jazz was using words like "dude" in the latest ish. Unless he's emulating Californian surfer culture. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Shane McCarthy
Btw could we please never have a Transformer refer to other Transformers in the exclusive company of Transformers as men (or gentlement etc.)?? It makes them sound waaaaaay too human. I'd hoped that we would never relive that nightmare from that horrific Armada dub where both Optimus Prime and Megatron frequently referred to their troops as "men." That... that brought back some bad memories for me. *sniff*
"Hoodja talkin' 'bout 'Carthy?!" http://www.ridforever.info/gallery/a...burn.thumb.jpg :p ;) j/ksQuote:
Originally Posted by Shane McCarthy
But I agree - you can have certain cultural influences in a character without making that character a complete stereotype or caricature of/from that culture. e.g.: Bludgeon and Dinobot also have strong samurai (Bushido) influences in their character make-ups but I don't think most people would see them as "Japanophiles." BW Fuzor Silvebolt likewise has a strong Chivalry influence too. Various Transformers have different cultural influences.
Make him a Pachinko-addict! :D Seriously though, if the battle on Earth ever spreads beyond the U.S. and goes to Japan, could you arrange for some fan reference to be written in the background art? e.g.: In The War Within there's a building with "Transformers" written in Japanese in the background and in the movie there's a sushi restaurant in Mission City called "Takara Sushi." It'd be nice to have some kind of Easter Egg like that... so if you're going to have Japanese text on buildings etc. in say downtown Tokyo, make them TF related. I dunno if you have that much influence over the background art, but it'd be nice if you could. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Shane McCarthy
It's interesting to see how the Decepticons appear to have absolute power whereas the Autobots are at the depths of desperation (and despair). I look forward to seeing how events play out from here. :)
I got the 4th issue the other day myself~
Quite enjoyed it too~! It is interesting to see the Autobots really on edge like there are.
I am really looking forward to the next issue~! One downer though....the comics are not long enough~! >.<
i found the exact opposite, there not long enough in my opinion, but then, that could just be the edge of your seat mystery of the story.Quote:
Originally Posted by genechan
and im a fast reader:)
AHM #4 improves upon the first 3 issues, but there is nothing overly spectacular in it. Bar the art, which like the writing improves each issue.
For a series that is meant to be about the Decepticons it strikes my funny bone that the best issue has such a heavy focus on the Autobots. Having minimal pages allocated to humans helps a great deal as well.
I did like Megatron praising his troops, its something we have never really seen before, Soundwave being absent, yet Insecticon clones being there seemed odd, but meh it's not a biggy. It would have been better if we had have seen other infiltration units listening to an interstellar broadcast of Megatron's victory speech rather than only the earth based characters, but I understand the desire to keep AHM tightly knit and focused for now. It also served the point of keeping references to the "-tion" series at a minimum.
Not overly intersted in the Autobot traitor, Ironhide believes it to be Mirage, Prowl is uncertain, while Jazz is hiding something. What Jazz is hiding is what interests me most, although the revival of Kup (who got a mention in the issue, I'm sure just to remind everyone of him before he returns) should be something interesting to explain, if the Autobots are so low on energy and cannot repair Sideswipe and Trailbreaker's major injuries, then how did they manage to repair Kup? (For now I'll assume that he was healed before the Decepticons rampaged through the Autobots.)
Season 1 Autobots are very nicely banged up, as mentioned Sideswipe and Trailbreaker seem to be hit the hardest (other than Prime), but even Tracks has been soundly beaten.
Strongest issue thus far, but still not spectacular, these first 4 issues could have been placed in 2 issues and not affected the story, plot, characters or anything.
I really enjoyed issue 4! I can see this ramping up nicely.
CBR have a interview up here. Check out Perceptor! Mr. McCarthy was not joking when he said 'reinventing'. Wikid! Hasbro. Toy. Now!
That looks awesome, love Percy's and Blurr's new design :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Firecracker
How come Blur and Perceptor get new designs, and Hot Rod goes back to his old cartoon look? not to mention personality.
Kup sure beefed up when he got rebuilt huh? Although that's nothing compared to Roadbuster! Talk about a "Deluxe Autobot" :)
Perceptor's going back to the tank mode is cool. (Did Perceptor ever turn into a tank in the cartoon? I don't recall it outside the UK comic). I do prefer it when Blaster (Spotlight), Soundwave (War Within) and Perceptor (here) are given Cybertronian combat modes.
I do remember him rolling along like a tank but really he looked like a giant microscope.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulbot
I posted the CBR interview as a news topic, not knowing it had been mentioned here. Ah well, it is news after all, and you can post in either topic now if you want. I'm not going to shuffle the posts between the two topics.
As you were... :p
I was just wondering
in regards to issue 5
does one have to read Stormbringer to understand why the home world is abandoned?
Not really. The destitution and general post-apocalyptic look of the place is probably explanation enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by roller
It cant hurt to read it though.
Nah, you don't really need to read Stormbringer, because All Hail Megatron's portrayal of Cybertron is inconsistent to previous appearances anyway. Sure, it's messy, but the Autobots shouldn't be able to live for an extended period of time on that world without some extensive shielding.
According to Furman's stories, Cybertron was almost destroyed by millions of years of unending war what depleted its resources and stripped away its atmosphere. Thunderwing attempted to warn his fellow scientists on both sides of the impending cataclysm, and that the only hope of surviving (short of abandoning the planet) was to use his dangerous carapace technology (Pretenders). The other scientists ignored his warnings, Megatron refused to fund his "unnatural" research, so he continued on his own.
However, the carapace technology drove him insane, becoming the very scion of destruction he foresaw. The Autobots and Decepticons failed to stop his rampage across the planet, until Cybertron itself chose to save its offspring by swallowing Thunderwing into its depths. From then on, Cybertron slowly died, becoming a dead, radiation-soaked world, which is part of the reason why the Autobots and Decepticons in Furman's storyline operate across the galaxy.
I've been enjoying AHM, but now i'm really missing some of the little things that could have connected it too previous continuity. It wouldn't have been hard to include a little reference (whether visual or in dialogue) to the Autobots needing shielding and all their energy going into that, and not being able to fix Prime...
anyhow, still want #6.
i just hope that the in the end, the story isn't a dream
or
That the humans all start chanting "UsA , USA, USA" and start smashing the Decepticons, while American flags appear everywhere-like at the end of that horrid Spiderman movie