Wow. 4196 TFs!
I created a spreadsheet based on the Rob Jung list too back in the day, but never went this far!
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We broke the news to the rest of the world... so it hasn't been announced yet how much it will be in America, or how much.
Hey guys is $700 us a fair price for a loose complete liokaiser?
up to you man, but I personally wouldn't pay that.
you talking to Elrod on TFW?
I personally won't pay that because I have...., but I reckon its worth about that much nowadays.
Yeah saw it on tfw, seems very expensive though
what's the difference between SCF and HOC?
The SCF were Japanese, blind-packed, had more figures, included chase figures and were designed in such a way that the individual pieces of PVC were pretty much the right colour that individual part needed to be when put together. Heroes of Cybertron were carded and from the US, pretty much completely painted and had light-piped eyes.
As Sky Shadow mentioned, the Japanese (SCF) had a lot more released (10 sets - called "Acts" with about 8-9 in each... and each of those had a colour & non-coloured version), while Hasbro (HOC) had just 5 sets of 6-7 in each. (plus a set of six Seekers & Sunstorm for BotCon 2003)
Below are most of the Gen1 figurines. On the right up until Metroplex are all of the Hasbro figurines. From the left of that are almost all of the Japanese figurines that were NOT released by Hasbro in their series. (I only collected the coloured versions - all of those below that weren't chase figures, were ALSO released in Japan as clear or "pewter" coloured) (I'm still missing 6 of the chase figures)
http://www.toycollectors.com.au/collection/c23s3.jpg
The added bonus of some sets was finding pieces to build a big figurine - Metroplex, Fort Max, Scorponok, Black Zarak, Grand Max, Victory Saber parts (to attach to the Star Saber figurine).
The last two sets in Japan were of Armada (Called Micron Legend in Japan), which can be seen at the bottom of this photo...
http://www.toycollectors.com.au/collection/c22s0.jpg
I have since acquired one more of the four chase figures in that pic above, leaving 2 left to track down. (Chase figures were limited edition figures that were often 1 per master case - which meant for every 4 coloured figures and every 4 non-coloured figures, there was just 1 of each of the 2 Chase figures.)
As a side note... in Japan, they also released 14 larger-sized PVC figurines, called Mega-SCF.
Sooooo... if you were thinking of completing a set of SCFs & HOCs, you'd be looking at about 300 figurines, ranging in prices of a couple dollars (for the clear & pewter coloured ones) to hundred-plus dollars for the early chase figures.
They are well sculpted figurines, and look really nice on display, but unfortunately, since they are piece-together figurines, they don't hold together too well for play, so aren't really toys.