The original Dodge Viper was built using an engine out of a truck recast out of alloy. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetfire in the sky
And we all know how that monster turned out :cool:
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The original Dodge Viper was built using an engine out of a truck recast out of alloy. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetfire in the sky
And we all know how that monster turned out :cool:
RE: Action Masters
Unlike Ultimetal Optimus Prime, Action Masters weren't just non-convertible merchandise or a sub line of toys - they were part of the "mainstream" line of Transformers and they comprised a reasonably significant part of the toyline at the time. This Ultimetal Optimus Prime is a piece of Transformers merchandise, it's not part of the action figure line proper. Transformation is a significant part of the appeal of the Transformers franchise - the 'puzzle play' is a core part of the Transformers line's play pattern. The bread and butter if you will. I can understand that there will be 'peripheral' toys and items of merchandise that don't transform - we've had that since the 1980s (e.g. voice changer Ultra Magnus etc.), but I think that action figures that are part of the "main" action figure line ought to be able to transform. ROTF Combiner Class Devastator was another more recent example of how a toy that didn't "really" transform (i.e had no individual robot modes) wasn't received well by the market, as evidenced by it's incredible shelfwarming.
As Cat said, this is not a toy. It's a piece of merchandise. It's a very expensive piece of merchandise, no doubt... but that's what it is. :o And as he said, if we want something to play with, that's what proper action figures are for, like MP10. Action Masters sucked because they existed in lieu of proper transforming action figures. :( Ultimetal OP is personally not my thing (neither are busts or statues), but I don't begrudge it either. It's not a toy, and it's not trying to be a toy... unlike Action Masters who were very much marketed as being part of the core action figure line.
http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/p...06&mode=retail
$1300US at BBTS.
I don't even want to know what their shipping will be.
And I (mostly) agree with Gok. We always disagree, but HE GETS IT.
He's just wrong about how awesome Action Masters were and are, but that's a whole different story. ;)
Everything else, he completely NAILED.
First sign of the apocalypse? YES.
But more important than the apocalypse, HE GETS IT.
And MP10 is such a great analogue for this piece. For some reason I cannot fathom, and I don't believe anyone has pointed out, this piece uses the covered leg-wheels of the MP10 design, when there was absolutely no need to. It's a bit of a strange choice really.
For that price, I'd like the Megatron one to have that funky glowing grid effects from when Unicron upgraded him in the animated movie.Quote:
Originally Posted by Megatron
i saw it but it made no difference to me. Optimus has had various aesthetic design choices and really there's nothing wrong with having the wheels open/closed - its still Optimus.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cat
to me the problem is that it looks way too much like MP-10. it looks 5x better sure, but costs 10x more...
It was pointed out on page one that it looks like an upscaled MP-10. It has the squared fuel tanks from MP-10, and the dead eyes, and ... do you really need what you can see spelled out for you? There are homages to MP-1 and 10 all through it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cat
A better look through this thread would also reveal that everyone GETS that it doesn't transform, and isn't supposed to. And that's why many don't want to GET it. Along with the premium price.
GOT IT?
I wouldn't, as it would be a constant and expensive reminder of what happens to him in that horrible movie... :(Quote:
Originally Posted by CBratron
Instead... how about, a working fusion cannon? :D
I'd say it's for show-likeness, because in the G1 cartoon Optimus Prime's wheels just disappear.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cat
http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/...shermandam.jpg
Horrible?!? Watching both Primes slap the taste out of his mouth were the best parts! :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Megatron
Now that would be cool on any Megatron figure :DQuote:
Instead... how about, a working fusion cannon? :D
My point was we don't need to get it that is cannot transform. It was the justification of the price tag. Like said, I have compared to very similar robot releases and being said Optimus is very basic in design.
Someone from my prospective who had build a PG gundam would know, this isn't a big deal and it shouldn't be priced that high.
Like said, is this made in Japan?
http://www.hlj.com/product/TKT49588/Sci
The model kit is for example a cool untransforming Optimus but hey it isn't a 20000 yen kit.
There will be somebody looking at this 70000yen boy and say "I can make this cheaper, affordable and better"