Generations: Superion & Menasor (1st Photos)

Updated the 1st post with the Official Promotional Photography. :cool:

I'm absolutely loving these figures, and I'm someone who owns both of FansProject's iterations of the pair. ;)
My only complaint would be the slight undersized-nature of their feet and oversized-nature of their fists, otherwise, I'll be preordering their various case assortments "on sight" of their solicitations being posted. :D

Now,
The question is: Will Hasbro Australia's sales reps pull their finger out, return the Generations line to our shores and appropriately distribute these figures in acceptable numbers ALONG with successive waves? :rolleyes:
Prior history has taught me not to hold my breath and to recommend any & all interested parties to seek online sources :), I really miss the local toy hunts though and wonder if such things will be relegated to the past forever? :(

Only time will tell I suppose...

Given that in the IDWverse anyone can be a combiner (Prowl). I think that it is really cool that Optimus will be a combiner and hopefully this will tie in with the comic series. I would love to know who else will be a part of that combiner. It has been hinted at that it will be a hat tip to the G1 episode Masquerade (one of my favourite)

Optimus
Mirage - Drag strip
Jazz - Deadend
Sideswipe - Breakdown
Windcharger - ???

Could Windcharger be replaced by a repaint of Off Road? Who could it be?

Or will it be a repaint from either Defensor or Bruticus?

While not brilliant, I'm impressed enough with these to consider buying them. I love Combiners... we need more!

This is a pleasant surprise :)
Glad to see Hasbro giving fans what we want... Finally!
Would prefer all the Arielbots to retain their jet modes but nothing that a 3P company can't fix.
I actually prefer the Stunticons more based on the toy photo with all that glue... Looks comparable to Maketoys (when compared from a price perspective).
The key thing now is the size... size does matter for my gestalts :D

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Originally Posted by Robzy

While not brilliant, I'm impressed enough with these to consider buying them. I love Combiners... we need more!

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Yeah, still not within 3P standards but it's a huge improvement from crapfest official combiners released in the not distant past. I am happy to support and reward these new ones if they are as good as they look.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y22...ptakemoney.jpg
:cool: ICH LIEBE DIE GESTALTEN!!! :D

As others have said, the different alt modes with Slingshot^Alpha Bravo and Wildrider^Off Road may be due to potential mould reuse for the Combaticons, but one added advantage - especially for the Aerialbots - is increased variety in the alt modes, which impacts on the look of the overall gestalts. One thing that particularly made the G1 Aerialbots dull as a set, was the generic nature of the limb robots. Although they all do have different alt modes as fighter jets, they all follow the same transformation pattern. And in both the G1 cartoon and comics, it often made the individual limb robots indistinguishable when they formed Superion. The same could sometimes happen with Menasor, especially the leg robots unless viewed from behind. Colour was often the only way that you could distinguish which robot was which, but in situations where we weren't able to see the colours, it became impossible to tell. Look at these examples from G1 canon and see if you can distinguish which Aerialbot was formed which limb...
Hate Plague infected Superion.
Superion vs Menasor in the US comics.
Superion in the UK comics.
Superion vs G.I. Joe
Superion being owned by Combaticons in the G1 manga.
As a helicopter and 4WD, Alpha Bravo and Off Road are more distinctive. That's one thing that made sets like the Combaticons and Protectobots so cool; each of them have clearly distinctive forms. You can look at a black and white illustration of say Bruticus or Defensor and still tell who is who. :)

A shame that they've changed the names, but I'm assuming it's due to trademark issues. :o Hasbro Australia would have to be 9 flavours of crazy if they don't release these toys here.

And the big question.

Do you think Australian retail will be reliable enough to buy these locally?

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Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime

As others have said, the different alt modes with Slingshot^Alpha Bravo and Wildrider^Off Road may be due to potential mould reuse for the Combaticons, but one added advantage - especially for the Aerialbots - is increased variety in the alt modes, which impacts on the look of the overall gestalts. One thing that particularly made the G1 Aerialbots dull as a set, was the generic nature of the limb robots. Although they all do have different alt modes as fighter jets, they all follow the same transformation pattern. And in both the G1 cartoon and comics, it often made the individual limb robots indistinguishable when they formed Superion. The same could sometimes happen with Menasor, especially the leg robots unless viewed from behind. Colour was often the only way that you could distinguish which robot was which, but in situations where we weren't able to see the colours, it became impossible to tell. Look at these examples from G1 canon and see if you can distinguish which Aerialbot was formed which limb...
Hate Plague infected Superion.
Superion vs Menasor in the US comics.
Superion in the UK comics.
Superion vs G.I. Joe
Superion being owned by Combaticons in the G1 manga.
As a helicopter and 4WD, Alpha Bravo and Off Road are more distinctive. That's one thing that made sets like the Combaticons and Protectobots so cool; each of them have clearly distinctive forms. You can look at a black and white illustration of say Bruticus or Defensor and still tell who is who. :)

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yeah its hard to tell the difference between the limbs BUT that's only because of the lazy drawing of the artists. and even if they weren't being lazy, they probably weren't familiar enough with the source material.

i do agree that they are generic in nature, but they're all jets... and because they combined into a gestalt, they had a uniform colour scheme - red, white and black. it probably didn't help that they had the scramble city attribute which meant they could be any limb and so that further kills any individuality that other gestalts like Bruticus and Defensor have.

the helicopter foot looks stupid to me. I prefer the g1 original which has some symmetrical balance and beauty rather than an ugly club foot. :p

Alpha Bravo could be used as Vortex from bruticus and Blades from Defensor. The 4WD offroad could be used as Swindle, and could work as First Aid, given a new head and a siren but not ideal. While these are released in waves, we should expect to see boxsets, where they might actually replace the helicopter from Superior with another jet, just a possibility but not a sure thing.

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Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y22...ptakemoney.jpg
:cool: ICH LIEBE DIE GESTALTEN!!! :D

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lol given recent history, they don't want to take your money, not without making you work first ;) They will make you search half way across the world before you can give them your money and that's if you are lucky ;)

With latest waves, it reached a point that 3Ps were more accessible than official Hasbro Generations toys. Skids for example.